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Post by smjjames on Jul 4, 2011 1:41:08 GMT
Anja knows about it, and as far as I can tell, she's a part of the Court's "whatever it is" government. Otherwise why would she take it upon herself to respond to Coyote's signal for the first meeting? You'd think responding to the god across the waters that everyone thinks is such a problem wouldn't be undertaken by just anyone. Other than the fact that Annie didn't have/know how to use the blinker stone yet? Its probably has more to do with it being a literary tool (and I DON'T mean a pen/pencil/keyboard) and I wouldn't call it a plot hole since how she got it doesn't affect anything.
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Post by raddishh on Jul 17, 2011 18:32:35 GMT
I don't pay much attention to this thread so I don't know if this theory has been brought up before, but I don't think Annie's father Anthony left for any cruel reasons. My theory is that he's left to research bringing Surma back from the dead somehow* or to research how to make sure Annie doesn't have the same thing happen to her someday. Or both.
But on a broader scope I think Anthony has left to do research, and despite its charitable nature, he must keep it a secret, but it will be an important plot point later.
*this is creepy, yes, but not really cruel... just selfish.
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Post by ragashingo on Jul 27, 2011 21:59:42 GMT
Thread needs more speculation that Jones is one of Diego's golems.
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Post by Starrylight on Jul 27, 2011 23:43:01 GMT
I guess that would make her not-a-robot, technically. But how does the whole "Wandering Eye" thing tie in with that? (Okay, I realize that's not the point of wild spec, but still.)
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Post by Elaienar on Jul 28, 2011 1:19:08 GMT
Going with the golem theory, could Diego have somehow seen out of Jones' eyes? That would be have been a convenient way to spy on people.
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Post by smjjames on Jul 29, 2011 7:25:56 GMT
Thread needs more speculation that Jones is one of Diego's golems. She is shown as being a kid in Ties, so that kind of nixes the theory. Unless theres some wierd life cycle thing going on like with Annie and her fire elemental ancestry since they literally pass on the flame to their young. Those of Annie and Surmas lineage anyways, we don't know anything about full blooded fire elementals in GC other than the fact that they do exist, or existed......
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Post by vollie on Jul 29, 2011 11:17:58 GMT
^ She's not shown as a kid in Ties, actually. Jimmy mentions her, but we don't know if she was a kid or not.
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Post by rainofsteel on Jul 29, 2011 12:25:26 GMT
I wonder if those two ghosts in 913 and 914 were figures from the old Gunnerkrigg Court. They and the mandolin had to have been cursed by something, and they just seemed to be the types to get involved in curse-worthy activities.
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Post by smjjames on Aug 1, 2011 3:18:41 GMT
^ She's not shown as a kid in Ties, actually. Jimmy mentions her, but we don't know if she was a kid or not. Hrm, on taking a closer look, young Donny calls the student Tony and Tom made a statement implying a relationship (not neccesarily biologically) with Jones. But yea you're right, Jimmy mentions her on the same page. rainofsteel: The woman, if she is as old as her face looks, could be old enough to have been very young at the time of the courts founding, or maybe not born yet. Depending on how the timeline works out, she could even have known Jeanne in life. Also, it looks like the origional idea of those two characters (or at least their non-twisted forms) were repurpoused as Shell and Bubba (or whatever the fat guys name is). Hence the similarity between the two fat characters.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 3, 2011 15:20:35 GMT
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Post by blahzor on Aug 3, 2011 15:36:52 GMT
also Ms Jones is the new type of robot that Kat creates in the future that came back to the past to become to The Wandering Eye to watch over them and when she does she gets to leap. cause the next leap could be the one home....Quantum Leap
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Post by hifranc on Aug 15, 2011 9:20:56 GMT
I think that that the Moon, GC and the forest are, despite their differences, working together to test Annie to see how she would react to a possible diplomatic crisis. This situation is quite a good scenario because it also tests her ability to see a problem developing.
The person they sent to GC is probably not in on it because, given the amount of ambient magic, an inexperienced spy may be found out.
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Post by balsamah on Aug 22, 2011 9:14:03 GMT
Jones is actually the Tall Man's more attractive sister.
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Post by todd on Aug 23, 2011 22:12:28 GMT
Coyote used his shape-shifting abilities, shortly after he first came to Gillitie Wood, to impersonate both members of the Court and of the Wood, and sow discord and mistrust among the two peoples - enough to get them angry at each other, for his entertainment. (Though he didn't want them to go to war and wipe each other out, ending his entertainment too soon - hence he made the chasm between the Court and the Wood afterwards.)
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Post by blahzor on Aug 24, 2011 12:22:09 GMT
wild but kinda serious about this but what if Chang'e overhead part of Annie's and Coyote's conversation once he "plucked" the moon out of the sky and are reporting back that and the details of the change on the moon to the Court
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Post by cam94509 on Aug 28, 2011 11:42:29 GMT
I missed this until my most recent readthrough: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=225Read the comment down at the bottom... "It all begins with a seed." I missed the connection to the 'castle grew from the seed of Bismuth' entirely up until I reread that, and then it hit me. Could it be robots other arm grew the same way that the castle grew?
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Post by rainofsteel on Aug 28, 2011 23:30:54 GMT
The Seed Bismuth was from before Coyote, Ysengrin, and Reynard's time. The seed that grew from the robot was, I speculate, from Ysengrin, but we don't really know for sure.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 31, 2011 14:55:28 GMT
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Post by Max on Sept 9, 2011 7:19:12 GMT
Annie loses her temper and quite literally flares up, causing a fire. The other students are freaked out by this and Annie goes back to being the outcast.
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Post by vebyast on Sept 9, 2011 7:57:57 GMT
Putting the "wild" back in speculation: Annie and Jack are telepathically coordinating the most angsty teenage drama in history. Two possible reasons: one, to drive off Bud so they can talk without being observed; two, to make sure that Lindsey's psychoanalysis is FUBAR.
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Post by rafk on Sept 9, 2011 8:06:35 GMT
The second part is such a good bit of speculation I don't know if it's wild. "Tony" is Annie's father Anthony, though, so him and today's Jones being the same person would be pretty wild!
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Post by Stately Buff-Cookie on Sept 9, 2011 8:09:54 GMT
"I'm sorry, Annie. I had to go away for a while. I just wasn't happy as a man. I wasn't sure how you'd take it, but I've been here watching over you all along."
Then Annie's head explodes.
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Post by animagus on Sept 9, 2011 9:19:24 GMT
Ok, this has probably been mentioned before, but I think Winsbury and Janet are cousins.
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Post by blahzor on Sept 11, 2011 15:04:42 GMT
"I'm sorry, Annie. I had to go away for a while. I just wasn't happy as a man. I wasn't sure how you'd take it, but I've been here watching over you all along." Then Annie's head explodes. i'd watch that and pay money too!
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Post by cavalier on Sept 11, 2011 19:39:42 GMT
Seeing as this is my first post, I figured I would go with a shoot the moon prediction (I tried searching to make sure this hadn't been posted already, so forgive me if it has...)
Jack - who was shown to pretty tricky even before being possessed and who subsequently spent a fair bit of time as a spider-human gestalt (with the Spider leaving him smarter and cleverer) - is being set up to be the Court's equivalent of Anasi. After that, he will become a major player in the story (though not necessarily as the protagonist) because, after all, all the stories belong to Anasi. (anyway, if there is one thing this story needs, it is another mythological trickster)
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Post by kelantar on Sept 13, 2011 1:51:12 GMT
A random Jones theory: we know that Annie is a fire elemental, so what if Jones is some kind of earth elemental? Hence the "grounded" personality and the " SKANG" and the weight issues.
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Post by kelantar on Sept 13, 2011 1:56:25 GMT
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Post by Max on Sept 17, 2011 16:05:33 GMT
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Post by cam94509 on Sept 18, 2011 5:46:06 GMT
I think Jones was originally a creature from the forest (the symbol of the forest is, as far as I can tell, an eye, thus she is 'Wandering Eye').
Or perhaps I'm just thinking too deeply into things. Or not deeply enough.
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Post by baf on Sept 19, 2011 9:02:31 GMT
Something just struck me:
Reynard can move his soul from one body to another, leaving his previous host dead in the process, right?
Surma did the same thing.
Well, not exactly the same, obviously. It was a much slower process, and involved birthing a new body instead of stealing one.
Nonetheless, there's just enough of a connection there to make me wonder if the fire elemental's original body is sleeping somewhere in the forest like Rey's.
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