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Post by todd on Mar 5, 2016 0:27:41 GMT
No, the court wanted to kick Annie out of the program altogether. To be more accurate, that's what they told Anthony and wanted him to believe. They obviously wanted to rein her in - but I don't think they really wanted to banish her. That would be too dangerous - to have her out wandering somewhere in the world, a girl with a lot of etheric power and a wilful nature - who knows what trouble she might cause? It would make better sense - if restraining her didn't work - to have her locked up in a fire-proof prison cell, where they could keep her under continual surveillance. |
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Post by ih8pkmn on Mar 5, 2016 1:29:44 GMT
Argh. Forgive me for sticking a Homestuck reference where it clearly doesn't belong, but THIS IS STUPID. I have a friend who, when she sees a particularly annoying part in a movie (like a protracted argument between a pair of characters in a children's film), she covers her ears and eyes until the stupidity passes. I feel for her- I do the same thing when I see dialog that is particularly cringe-worthy. That's kind of how I feel about this chapter. I think that the title of the chapter applies to not only what Annie needs to do, but what Tom needs to do as well, at least in regards to his writing. |
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Post by vvaivi on Mar 5, 2016 1:29:51 GMT
I agree with a lot of you saying this fell flat, because I'd like to see Annie actually have to deal with a romantic situation, even if she does so very badly. So far she's had to deal with Mort, who wasn't actually in love with her, Jack, who wasn't actually in love with her, Kamlen, who wasn't actually in love with her, and ALMOST Winsbury, who wasn't actually in love with her. Have I forgotten anyone? I'd like to see actual romantic emotions/entanglements dealt with. Yeah, maybe Kat, Paz and the rest of the clueless should have made that personality-less brown haired lad try to date Annie. Then you would have seen an "actual romantic entanglement". |
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Post by matoyak on Mar 5, 2016 2:40:16 GMT
I agree with a lot of you saying this fell flat, because I'd like to see Annie actually have to deal with a romantic situation, even if she does so very badly. So far she's had to deal with Mort, who wasn't actually in love with her, Jack, who wasn't actually in love with her, Kamlen, who wasn't actually in love with her, and ALMOST Winsbury, who wasn't actually in love with her. Also, and I know this is almost certainly known but... dating != in love. It's not necessary for you to be in love with someone who you want to date. Love tends to come after long periods of interaction with another person. I don't see why the love statement, unless you just were conflating love and dating. |
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Post by arf on Mar 5, 2016 4:14:37 GMT
Been reading "The Owl Service" recently? Never heard of it. A book by Alan Garner, in which a tragedy from an old Welsh legend is played out anew. William and Janet would relish it but, oddly, I see more hints of it between Kat, Paz, Annie, and Robot (I think this page got me thinking, but it's probably nothing). |
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Post by basser on Mar 5, 2016 6:41:28 GMT
Are you folks seriously bitching about a lack of dumb romance crap in regards to a story about demons and gods and ghosts and a magical fire girl? Like oh boo Annie hasn't had to deal with boring stupid romantic tripe yet and the story's had her acting less of an irritating twerp for a change as part of her character arc - clearly the writing is terrible and nothing has happened in a whole year!
Except there was the entire reveal of Tony's story, losing/regaining Renard, fire elemental stuff, character development for basically everyone, drama and intrigue with robot and shadow, the fairy and the rabbit, losing the blinker stone, coyote... but oh no Annie hasn't had to think about dating so it's all useless crap. Who cares about all those other characters who're infinitely more interesting and likeable than Annie's ever been, amirite? All that matters is who she may or may not sleep with. Because that's most important thing in her life obviously. Everything that isn't in some way to do with sex is meaningless.
Y'all are gross.
I ain't reading any replies to this btw I just wanted to vent at the assholes acting like Tom's a hack just because he isn't writing a plot exactly in line with their juvenile hormone-driven expectations.
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Mar 5, 2016 7:00:19 GMT
Are you folks seriously bitching about a lack of dumb romance crap in regards to a story about demons and gods and ghosts and a magical fire girl? Like oh boo Annie hasn't had to deal with boring stupid romantic tripe yet and the story's had her acting less of an irritating twerp for a change as part of her character arc - clearly the writing is terrible and nothing has happened in a whole year!
Except there was the entire reveal of Tony's story, losing/regaining Renard, fire elemental stuff, character development for basically everyone, drama and intrigue with robot and shadow, the fairy and the rabbit, losing the blinker stone, coyote... but oh no Annie hasn't had to think about dating so it's all useless crap. Who cares about all those other characters who're infinitely more interesting and likeable than Annie's ever been, amirite? All that matters is who she may or may not sleep with. Because that's most important thing in her life obviously. Everything that isn't in some way to do with sex is meaningless.
Y'all are gross.
I ain't reading any replies to this btw I just wanted to vent at the assholes acting like Tom's a hack just because he isn't writing a plot exactly in line with their juvenile hormone-driven expectations.  |
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Post by basser on Mar 5, 2016 7:21:50 GMT
Aye it is, what up. I may only ever comment when y'all tick me off enough to outweigh the effort of logging in but that don't mean I ain't still lurkin' around reading your posts. Always and forever.
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Post by warrl on Mar 5, 2016 7:41:13 GMT
Basser, you and I either aren't reading the same comic or aren't reading the same forum. Maybe both. Because I have no idea where any of what you said came from.
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 5, 2016 8:04:08 GMT
Basser, you and I either aren't reading the same comic or aren't reading the same forum. Maybe both. Because I have no idea where any of what you said came from. Check in basser 's recent posts: basically everything s/he has said in the last year or so has been constructed to cause flame wars on the board, and a couple of times s/he has succeeded. I'm with CoyoteReborn on this one*: no use arguing with trolls :/ (*check the alt-text of the image) |
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Post by themarvelgirl on Mar 5, 2016 8:16:30 GMT
Asexual aromantic Annie is my second favourite Antimony Carver headcanon. Pages like this give me hope that it could be canon one day. What is your most favorite, if you don't mind my asking? That Antimony is autistic. That one is a bit self serving, as I am autistic myself and desperate for some positive representation. But it also fits really well. Do you have any Antimony headcanons? |
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Post by Corvo on Mar 5, 2016 12:34:04 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 5, 2016 13:50:46 GMT
I'm sidin' with basser on this one. If a reader needs to criticizes Tom's competence as a writer, then say it once and be done. |
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Post by Per on Mar 5, 2016 14:00:00 GMT
I'm sidin' with basser on this one. If a reader needs to criticizes Tom's competence as a writer, then say it once and be done. Except that basser's rant didn't seem to be directed towards that at all but towards some supposed obsession with sexuality that I really don't see here. |
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Post by Gorobay on Mar 5, 2016 16:28:35 GMT
I don’t think Annie knows what they said. She was upstairs talking with Jack at the time. No one was interested in their story, so no one would have told Annie about it later. |
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Post by rosencrantz on Mar 5, 2016 16:35:19 GMT
I love the way Winsbury isnt disagreeing with her. "It is your fault! You're such a fool!" Those intense kisses are probably occupying 90% of his brain's processing power right now. The remaining 10% is just agreeing with whatever is said. |
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Post by darlos9d on Mar 5, 2016 16:37:20 GMT
I ain't reading any replies to this btw Phew, for a second there I thought we might have a conversation on our hands. Glad we avoided it. |
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Post by matoyak on Mar 6, 2016 7:07:35 GMT
Basser, you and I either aren't reading the same comic or aren't reading the same forum. Maybe both. Because I have no idea where any of what you said came from. Check in basser 's recent posts: basically everything s/he has said in the last year or so has been constructed to cause flame wars on the board, and a couple of times s/he has succeeded. I'm with CoyoteReborn on this one*: no use arguing with trolls :/ Ever since I started posting here with any frequency that's how it's been with this Basser person. I ain't reading any replies to this btw Phew, for a second there I thought we might have a conversation on our hands. Glad we avoided it. This is what points to "troll" to me this time. "Vitriol! Anger! ... I ain't gonna respond to stuff my inflammatory post sets in motion!" ~immediately responds~ |
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 6, 2016 7:59:47 GMT
Who on earth thought this was a good idea? Kids at this age are dumb, sure, but Kat, I expected better of you. The horror of Infectious Newlyweds mode: "EVERYONE must hook up RIGHT NOW!". It's not on earth, it's at least halfway in the clouds. |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 6, 2016 8:19:38 GMT
I ain't reading any replies to this btw Phew, for a second there I thought we might have a conversation on our hands. Glad we avoided it. I know, right? A conversation would have detracted from the fundamental purpose of the internet: people shouting past each other. And we can't have that! Imagine having a polite conversation on the web... *shiver* |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Mar 6, 2016 8:21:06 GMT
Honestly, I think this chapter is the weakest story-wise since Tony showed up. It's decent, but I just don't see how this subplot will matter in the long run. I'm not agreeing with basser (I don't think we are oversexualizing/overromanticizing the arc), but I do kinda question Tom's decision to put this in the comic. I can't know for sure if my current opinion will stand by the time the end of the chapter gets posted, though...
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Post by zaferion on Mar 6, 2016 11:00:58 GMT
Guys, how can you write off Tom so easily? He's never done us wrong before. Even the most lighthearted plots in Gunnerkrigg have always been hiding something more intense and sinister in the background. Like that one time Annie was in the hospital and Zimmy bummed around in Annie's psyche then punched her dad except it was actually Tony cutting off his hand at the suggestion of eldritch Lovecraftian horrors that also almost tore off half his face. Or, ya know, literally everything involving Coyote.
Hooking Annie up with William isn't the main plot here. It's a red herring meant to draw our attention from how the chapter started: Rey coaching Annie on how to get back her etheric abilities and that a 13/14 year old girl with the ability to blow things up has a very short fuse right now.
Edit: Furthermore, it's the first comic relief we've had since Tony showed up however long ago.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Mar 6, 2016 15:35:13 GMT
Guys, how can you write off Tom so easily? He's never done us wrong before. Even the most lighthearted plots in Gunnerkrigg have always been hiding something more intense and sinister in the background. Like that one time Annie was in the hospital and Zimmy bummed around in Annie's psyche then punched her dad except it was actually Tony cutting off his hand at the suggestion of eldritch Lovecraftian horrors that also almost tore off half his face. Or, ya know, literally everything involving Coyote. Hooking Annie up with William isn't the main plot here. It's a red herring meant to draw our attention from how the chapter started: Rey coaching Annie on how to get back her etheric abilities and that a 13/14 year old girl with the ability to blow things up has a very short fuse right now. Edit: Furthermore, it's the first comic relief we've had since Tony showed up however long ago. Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm probably being way too skeptical of Tom right now. This is a chapter with William and Janet, so I should have expected a decent amount of over-the-top romantic shenanigans for comedic effect. And if Tom is bringing it to the forefront, it's probably going to be important... I feel like I need to apologize to Tom... |
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Post by tortoise on Mar 6, 2016 15:40:54 GMT
Asexual aromantic Annie is my second favourite Antimony Carver headcanon. Pages like this give me hope that it could be canon one day. She follows her father too much. Tony forms scary-strong bonds to people when he likes them, and his love for Surma is overwhelmingly intense. Dude barely has any room for more than 1 person in his life because he gets too attached. We're gonna see something similar from Annie I have no doubt. |
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Post by stclair on Mar 6, 2016 15:48:21 GMT
She'll probably end up locking onto someone, privately go all "what do I do?" with a confidante or two, and if they ever disappoint her ... it's the blank mask, the FLAMING RAGE, or both.
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Post by Per on Mar 6, 2016 17:45:05 GMT
I don't read GC primarily for plot developments or character levelling but for quirky slice of life, so this chapter is well within normal parameters for me.
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 6, 2016 19:09:17 GMT
Guys, how can you write off Tom so easily? He's never done us wrong before. Even the most lighthearted plots in Gunnerkrigg have always been hiding something more intense and sinister in the background. Like that one time Annie was in the hospital and Zimmy bummed around in Annie's psyche then punched her dad except it was actually Tony cutting off his hand at the suggestion of eldritch Lovecraftian horrors that also almost tore off half his face. Or, ya know, literally everything involving Coyote. Hooking Annie up with William isn't the main plot here. It's a red herring meant to draw our attention from how the chapter started: Rey coaching Annie on how to get back her etheric abilities and that a 13/14 year old girl with the ability to blow things up has a very short fuse right now. Edit: Furthermore, it's the first comic relief we've had since Tony showed up however long ago. To be fair, this section has been awesome in retrospect: Tony cutting off his hand was quite a revelation (though it had been speculated before), Coyote gave us some comic relief, and Puppy Renard made it all worth it. It's just slow when we see it at 3 pages/week, because I really want to see Annie get back to being her old, confident self  Compounded with Renard somewhat being absent from the story, and it's been a long year. Asexual aromantic Annie is my second favourite Antimony Carver headcanon. Pages like this give me hope that it could be canon one day. She follows her father too much. Tony forms scary-strong bonds to people when he likes them, and his love for Surma is overwhelmingly intense. Dude barely has any room for more than 1 person in his life because he gets too attached. We're gonna see something similar from Annie I have no doubt. But with who? That is the question! *pauses for Annie/Kat shippers to interject* |
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 6, 2016 20:10:28 GMT
Basser, you and I either aren't reading the same comic or aren't reading the same forum. Maybe both. Because I have no idea where any of what you said came from. Check in basser 's recent posts: basically everything s/he has said in the last year or so has been constructed to cause flame wars on the board, and a couple of times s/he has succeeded. I'm with CoyoteReborn on this one*: no use arguing with trolls :/ (*check the alt-text of the image) Please clarify. I have just checked the recent posts of basser - and am puzzled as to what is your problem. Calling being sweet-talked into amputation stupid? Catching weasel-words? Calling the recent sockpuppet chorus "sanctimonious"? (scrolling to the end of page) Mocking the wussification of the new Holmes movie? Not that it mattered, just idle curiosity as to how an internet-commissar's mind works. |
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Post by warrl on Mar 6, 2016 20:55:30 GMT
(I don't think we are oversexualizing/overromanticizing the arc) It's explicitly a teen-romance chapter. With the two main romantic couples to date both involved. I don't think over-romanticizing it is even possible. |
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Post by The Anarch on Mar 7, 2016 4:17:31 GMT
"Annie, let us explain! We've been dating in secret for a long time now!"  |
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Compounded with Renard somewhat being absent from the story, and it's been a long year.
