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Post by La Poire on Feb 9, 2007 17:25:10 GMT
That went to a new and incesting place.
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Post by mrw on Feb 9, 2007 17:51:47 GMT
That went to a new and incesting place. The pun is mightier than the sword. But yeah, ew. "This is my husband, who's also my father." Can't see those words coming from anyone in the cast, least of all Antimony. hmmm... Unless it was some sort of Oedipus Elektra tragedy... Amnesia? Edit: Thanks for straightening out which tragedy, folks! |
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Post by UbiquitousDragon on Feb 9, 2007 20:16:55 GMT
Sometime in the near future Kat builds a time travel device, travels into the past and builds Gunnerkrigg Court, which she (now later, as she in the past) goes to school in and learns cool stuff like anti-gravity and time travel and so travels back in time to attend the court. Then she travels forwads a bit in time to be there when Mr. Eglamore is there ...  |
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Post by Ben² on Feb 9, 2007 22:50:54 GMT
That went to a new and incesting place. The pun is mightier than the sword. But yeah, ew. "This is my husband, who's also my father." Can't see those words coming from anyone in the cast, least of all Antimony. hmmm... Unless it was some sort Oedipus tragedy... Amnesia? Hum. I'm not certain, but I think that the Oedipus deal is gender specific, and there is a separate complex for when it involves a daughter. I think the term is Elektra complex... I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong. In fact, I hope I am. I don't want to know why I would know the difference between an Oedipus and an Elektra complex. |
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Post by todd on Feb 9, 2007 23:23:47 GMT
If Annie's going to go back in time to become Surma (which I doubt will happen, but then this is the *Wild* Speculations" thread), it'd have to be in the near-future, since Surma was shown attending school in the past when she was about Annie's age (cf. the photograph in Chapter Seven).
Of course, one fun aspect is this: Annie learned about the Guides from Surma. If she goes back in time to become Surma, then Surma will know about the Guides through her original childhood as Annie and proceed to pass it on to Annie, producing a time loop.
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Post by Yin on Feb 9, 2007 23:49:39 GMT
But! Antimony could be hermaphrodite and turn out to be Anthony!
On second thought and reexamining that last statement, my brain has barred me from time travel prose for a while.
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Post by AluK on Feb 10, 2007 1:27:55 GMT
Yup Ben², the feminine analog of the Oedipus complex is the Electra complex. They're both psychiatric complexes based on Greek myths.
I was thinking about some sort of amnesiac state. She wakes in the past, shook up from the temporal displacement, and only remembers about her mom. Then she takes Surma's identity, that, after all, was hers own.
That would give a whole new sense to the Electra complex and would be an awesome play on the myth and the self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by todd on Feb 10, 2007 1:53:11 GMT
I'd say that if Annie goes back in time to become one of her parents, Surma is the more likely candidate and not just because Anthony would require a gender change. From what we know of Annie's parents, she clearly takes far more after Surma, both in looks (the only substantial difference there is that Surma has curly hair and Annie straight) and moral character (as the Donlans and Eglamore notice in Chapter Seven).
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Post by Yin on Feb 10, 2007 2:04:56 GMT
Somewhere in the Court, someone is writing us typing this thread. Maybe this forum, even.
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Post by mrw on Feb 10, 2007 5:42:41 GMT
Yup Ben², the feminine analog of the Oedipus complex is the Electra complex. They're both psychiatric complexes based on Greek myths. I was thinking about some sort of amnesiac state. She wakes in the past, shook up from the temporal displacement, and only remembers about her mom. Then she takes Surma's identity, that, after all, was hers own. That would give a whole new sense to the Electra complex and would be an awesome play on the myth and the self-fulfilling prophecy. True, but do you really think Antimony deserves that? I mean, with her own father? gnaaahhhhh..... Can't we do it with a character I don't like? ;D (...except there aren't any I don't like in GC) |
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Post by Yin on Feb 10, 2007 12:51:03 GMT
I think it would be far, far kinder to our brains to get off the topic of incest/time travel and get onto something new.
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Post by La Poire on Feb 10, 2007 13:00:12 GMT
We could make some theories on why all this time travel paradox talk has led the google ads to be about the stock market. Or, slightl more on topic, we can make bets on how soon Robot will appear. I say in about ten pages.
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Post by Yin on Feb 10, 2007 13:27:32 GMT
I make it somewhere between the second and eighth page inclusive.
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Post by La Poire on Feb 10, 2007 14:09:36 GMT
Nah, they'll have to spy on Eglamore to get him to reveal the location of Robot first.
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Post by julieth on Feb 10, 2007 14:41:54 GMT
Maybe Tom is trying to trick us into believing this chapter is about robots, when it's really about the shadows being an agent of Chaos.
I may have missed the boat on this one, but if MRW is being Sherriff Pony, can I be Paisly? Or the glowy thing in the hole? That would be cool.
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Post by Yin on Feb 10, 2007 23:02:59 GMT
Clearly I have missed the boat on this one. Who're Sheriff Pony and Paisley?
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Post by La Poire on Feb 11, 2007 0:00:29 GMT
I could just tell you, but it's against everything I stand for.  ? |
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Post by owl on Feb 11, 2007 1:54:52 GMT
Actually, I'm Sheriff Pony. MRW is Topato. But you can definitely be Paisley! ;D
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Post by La Poire on Feb 11, 2007 2:24:06 GMT
Oh, I'm not sure I got Yin's question right: was it as to who, on this forum, are Paisley and Sheriff Pony (as in owl is), or about who they are in general (as I obviously thought)? If the first, sorry about being a prick. Didn't really try to be anyway, but I know it could have been seen that way. I've been up too long to communicate coherently. Night.
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Post by owl on Feb 11, 2007 3:36:01 GMT
No, no, no, you weren't a prick at all. I'm pretty sure she did mean "who are they" in general. It's just that Julieth, in an earlier post, had said that mrw was Sheriff Pony and I was correcting her. Sorry, should have quoted.
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Post by julieth on Feb 11, 2007 6:29:40 GMT
Yay, I get a sword! Sorry to start confusion and get off topic there...
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Post by yeochild on Feb 11, 2007 16:47:44 GMT
Surma summoned Reynardine. That's why his spirit-form had the antimony symbol on it when he left Sivo, and why he actually seems to care about her and her family.
*Notices that this theory actually makes a sort of sense, and is therefore in the wrong thread*
Umm, but she summoned him to fight an invasion of haunted toasters that Dr Disaster had travelled back in time to spawn. *Looks relieved*
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Post by Ben² on Feb 11, 2007 16:49:50 GMT
Surma summoned Reynardine. That's why his spirit-form had the antimony symbol on it when he left Sivo, and why he actually seems to care about her and her family. *Notices that this theory actually makes a sort of sense, and is therefore in the wrong thread* Umm, but she summoned him to fight an invasion of haunted that Dr Disaster had travelled back in time to spawn. *Looks relieved* I thought he had the symbol for Mercury on his forehead when he left Sivo. It's an easy mistake to make, though; they're very similar and the symbol on Reynardine was very indistinct thanks to the fire, so I could be wrong. |
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Post by La Poire on Feb 11, 2007 17:02:35 GMT
Pretty sure it's mercury. Heading over to the alchemy thread to check.
Edit: It's mercury.
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Post by yeochild on Feb 11, 2007 17:28:11 GMT
Ahh, sorry. *Is suddenly hit by inspiration, and combines it with an old theory*
The girl in the older-generation picture was called Mercury, summoned Reynardine, and was his first victim. Surma freed him from Mercury's binding, which is why he likes her/feels he owes her one. Surma freed him for many of the same reasons that Antimony aided and shelters him; she didn't know how annoying/evil he was, didn't like the idea of him being imprisoned, and wanted some information from him. This explains why the teachers think Antimony and Surma were so alike.
Now THAT's a crackpot theory!
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Post by mrw on Feb 11, 2007 17:43:49 GMT
Ahh, sorry. *Is suddenly hit by inspiration, and combines it with an old theory* The girl in the older-generation picture was called Mercury, summoned Reynardine, and was his first victim. Surma freed him from Mercury's binding, which is why he likes her/feels he owes her one. Surma freed him for many of the same reasons that Antimony aided and shelters him; she didn't know how annoying/evil he was, didn't like the idea of him being imprisoned, and wanted some information from him. This explains why the teachers think Antimony and Surma were so alike. Now THAT's a crackpot theory! Actually, that sounds like quite a good theory. Right now I feel like Reynardine is in some way implicated in Surma's death, though not through possession, obviously. More speculation: Anthony disappeared immediately after Surma's death because he had some unfinished business to take care of. (Revenge, perhaps?) He didn't tell Antimony or anyone else because he knew they would come after him. He actually feels very badly about abandoning Annie, but believes he had no choice. When he returns (or is found) he will try to explain everything to Annie, but she will not accept it. There will be fire in her eyes and words sharper than knives. Anthony will be left emotionally bruised and beaten, feeling far worse than before. |
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Post by Uglyhead on Feb 11, 2007 21:30:42 GMT
I think it'd be more likely that Eglamore would have sharp words for Anthony, should he ever reappear. Let us hope a scuffle does not ensue.
That's all assuming that Anthony does reappear. If he remains absent, Antimony may end up summering with the Donlans. We haven't heard anything about aunts, uncles, or grandparents she might have, so old family friends may be the next best thing.
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Post by Aspen d'Grey on Feb 12, 2007 4:06:37 GMT
Tom has infinite art-ammo, too.
Wait, how does that work?
The magazine feed on his magic pencil is in the shape of an infinity symbol.
Ahhhh, that'd do it!
If you get the reference, you win an INTERNETS! construction kit, complete with SERIES OF TUBES expansion pack and AL GORE action figurine!
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Post by AluK on Feb 12, 2007 15:24:45 GMT
You've been playing too many video-games, Aspen.  |
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Post by aoeniac on Feb 12, 2007 23:45:32 GMT
"Snake, what are you doing?"
"I'm... in a box."
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