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Post by Elaienar on Dec 1, 2017 20:03:32 GMT
Kat and Antimony have have decided to get revenge on Anthony by throwing him a stealth party. When he and Arthur return from the back room it will be to find that everyone that he has the most tangential relationship to has been invited to stop by for tea and small-talk. Afterwards Anthony will be on his best behaviour, for fear that if he angers them again they will trick him into attending another pleasant social gathering.
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 3, 2017 4:13:02 GMT
Kat and Antimony have have decided to get revenge on Anthony by throwing him a stealth party. When he and Arthur return from the back room it will be to find that everyone that he has the most tangential relationship to has been invited to stop by for tea and small-talk. Afterwards Anthony will be on his best behaviour, for fear that if he angers them again they will trick him into attending another pleasant social gathering. I can only imagine his horror when Eglamore shows up and makes cheerful, friendly small talk to him. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 8, 2017 0:36:08 GMT
Kat and Antimony have have decided to get revenge on Anthony by throwing him a stealth party. When he and Arthur return from the back room it will be to find that everyone that he has the most tangential relationship to has been invited to stop by for tea and small-talk. Afterwards Anthony will be on his best behaviour, for fear that if he angers them again they will trick him into attending another pleasant social gathering. I can only imagine his horror when Eglamore shows up and makes cheerful, friendly small talk to him. No need to suspect the worst right away. Besides, Kat had to leave something in reserve. |
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Post by madjack on Dec 21, 2017 3:20:27 GMT
Maybe this is an answer to the "making notepads and cups of tea appear out of thin air" idea. She isn't (necessarily) connected to her parent's computer, she's gone and built her own that copies some of the functionality.
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Post by Runningflame on Dec 22, 2017 5:55:16 GMT
This isn't really wild speculation, more like ordinary speculation, but I think it's better to post it here than bumping an old page thread: There's a point we should take from Coyote's story about being a dead goose in a bush next to a lake. Up till now, we've seen that Coyote's main goal in life is to be entertained; he does things that he finds amusing, and he doesn't do things that he finds dull. We've already had two stories that highlight his willingness to abandon a project he finds boring: creating the glass-eyed men, and placing the stars in the sky. The story of the goose is actually a variation on the same theme--but it's a significant variation. The story still ends when Coyote gets bored, true. But it takes 100 days before he gets bored. The real moral of this story: Coyote always does what amuses him, but sometimes he plays the long game to get there. Now consider the placement of this Coyote story within its larger context. In the chapter itself, we have the dead-goose tale wrapped around Annie's conversation with Ysengrin, which focuses a lot on Ysengrin's devotion to Coyote. (Which, despite how highly he speaks of the experience, is not always a good thing for Ysengrin.) Then too, this chapter comes shortly after the Jeanne arc (and remember the conclusion there?). My literary analysis: whether it's in relation to Ysengrin or to Jeanne's sudden absence (or both at once), Tom's cluing us in that Coyote has some long-term schemes a-brewing. [ominous background music amid howls of laughter] |
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 9, 2018 23:22:23 GMT
Dear GOD how could my favorite thread go quiet for so LONG?!?!?! Has everyone forgotten it exists or something? Anyway, bringing this in from the most recent page thread(1947): I think not only does this make sense, but it serves as a great starting point for some wildspec! Remember, the Court has yet another perspective of those events: they found out Coyote was trying to give Renard his powers, so they got Surma to lure him into the Court with hints of romance. This technically worked, but at the unforeseen cost of Renard gaining Coyote's body possession powers, and then using those powers to kill two of their operatives.Sure is funny how that worked: they got some information about Coyote from a mysterious source, prompting them to a series of actions which led Renard getting more power and fighting with the Court. Later on, we find out that not only did Coyote know Renard had been tricked, he was also the one who urged Renard to kill Danny. Could he also have been behind the Court suddenly finding out about Renard's new potential source of power, thus setting up their whole plan? I don't think Renard getting permanently imprisoned there was part of Coyote's game, though, which is why he kept trying to steal him back, but then he found out that it was actually Annie keeping him there, prompting him to draw her closer and closer to the Forest, and also manipulate the relationship between her and Ysengrin. It's agree that it's pretty damn clear he has some kind of master plan going on here, and I'm just going to say that it's working towards Renard, Ysengrin, and Antimony all destroying the Court together. Of course, we'll have to wait and see what Ysengrin does with this new strength before my theory can have any real evidence. |
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Post by jda on Feb 16, 2018 8:47:43 GMT
Coyote is not so eternal, or is in danger of disappearing/losing godhood.
He can only preserve the Powers that he allocates in other bodies/places.
SO thats why He has gifted such to Renard (BodySnatching, Ysengrin (Gardening&Strenght), Annie (Tooth (Attack?Terraforming?)), Smith (LakeWater), Smith (Bones).
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Post by faiiry on Feb 18, 2018 17:06:46 GMT
Some wild speculation from me:
What happened in The Great Secret will happen again. Ysengrin will attack the Court, or something like that, and Annie will be forced to fight him. He will be out of his mind, only this time, Annie will be strong enough to battle against him. The whole time, she will be pleading with him to remember who he is.
It will be super emotional and we will all cry like stupid babies.
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 19, 2018 5:58:55 GMT
Some wild speculation from me: What happened in The Great Secret will happen again. Ysengrin will attack the Court, or something like that, and Annie will be forced to fight him. He will be out of his mind, only this time, Annie will be strong enough to battle against him. The whole time, she will be pleading with him to remember who he is. It will be super emotional and we will all cry like stupid babies. Hmm. Something like this? (Warning: major spoilers for Disney's Moana) |
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Post by faiiry on Feb 19, 2018 13:11:38 GMT
Some wild speculation from me: What happened in The Great Secret will happen again. Ysengrin will attack the Court, or something like that, and Annie will be forced to fight him. He will be out of his mind, only this time, Annie will be strong enough to battle against him. The whole time, she will be pleading with him to remember who he is. It will be super emotional and we will all cry like stupid babies. Hmm. Something like this? (Warning: major spoilers for Disney's Moana)A little like that, except more fighting, and maybe not with a happy ending. |
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Post by madjack on Feb 20, 2018 6:34:03 GMT
Prediction: Now that he knows it is no longer needed to cross the ravine, Ysengrin will demonstrate his newfound strength by destroying the bridge. Possibly with Annie and Smitty stuck on the forest side.
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Post by jda on Feb 20, 2018 15:23:50 GMT
Prediction: Now that he knows it is no longer needed to cross the ravine, Ysengrin will demonstrate his newfound strength by destroying the bridge. Possibly with Annie and Smitty stuck on the forest side. And make a new bridge on his own terms. |
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Post by madjack on Feb 20, 2018 16:18:25 GMT
I don't think Ys cares for building of any kind, but that was the panel I was thinking of, yeah. An explicit rejection of anything the Court has imposed on the Forest.
Edit: Also no more 'traitor' animals crossing over and becoming human.
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Post by jda on Feb 20, 2018 16:43:58 GMT
Edit: Also no more 'traitor' animals crossing over and becoming human. Invasion of the Court in a witch-hunt for any "traitor" formerly animal and now human? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 5, 2018 10:31:54 GMT
Some wild speculation from me: What happened in The Great Secret will happen again. Ysengrin will attack the Court, or something like that, and Annie will be forced to fight him. He will be out of his mind, only this time, Annie will be strong enough to battle against him. The whole time, she will be pleading with him to remember who he is. It will be super emotional and we will all cry like stupid babies. There would be a decent parallel between that and what happened when Ysengrin broke Antimony's blinker stone, but I think the parallel would be even stronger if Antimony forcibly separated Ys from Coyote's powers (possibly with help of the scooby gang, the tooth, and a jar of coyote-water) to stop him and return him to himself. I'm hoping there will be a whole chapter of rampage and unsuccessful attempts to reason with a wolf before that happens, though. Also: If anyone thinks the destruction/consumption of his body means Coyote is irreparably dead, look at this. |
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Post by manxy on Mar 5, 2018 16:28:13 GMT
Wild speculation on how the story will proceed from this moment ( GULP!): - Eglamore dies defending the court and Parley has to take his place while still a student.
- Robots attempt to defend the court with some weird reasoning of their Kat cult and are mostly slaughtered.
- Coyote has been seeding himself in the Court via the tooth/Reynard/probably some other stuff I forgot, and basically created horcruxes of himself.
- Smitty dies as an unintended consequence of using his power to try to save the court.
(Wild speculation is a great coping mechanism when you're very anxious about a storyline.)
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Post by hp on Mar 5, 2018 23:38:06 GMT
Any fellow readers of Dresden Codak here? Do you guys see any thematic resonance between Kimiko's "apocalyptic mechagod from the future" and Kat's "mechagod from robot faith" storylines?
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Post by todd on Mar 6, 2018 1:31:44 GMT
Wild speculation on how the story will proceed from this moment ( GULP!): - Eglamore dies defending the court and Parley has to take his place while still a student.
- Robots attempt to defend the court with some weird reasoning of their Kat cult and are mostly slaughtered.
- Coyote has been seeding himself in the Court via the tooth/Reynard/probably some other stuff I forgot, and basically created horcruxes of himself.
- Smitty dies as an unintended consequence of using his power to try to save the court.
(Wild speculation is a great coping mechanism when you're very anxious about a storyline.)
Or, possibly worse than all these: Ysengrin's attack on the Court results in everybody dying horrible deaths - at which point the action suddenly freezes, then turns out to be an image of some sort. Sir Young and the other Founders are seated around the table it hovers over. Sir Young says, "And that concludes the simulation Diego developed for what might happen if we settle next to Gilltie Wood and make it our base for our projects." |
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Post by hp on Mar 6, 2018 18:08:57 GMT
Wild speculation on how the story will proceed from this moment ( GULP!): - Eglamore dies defending the court and Parley has to take his place while still a student.
- Robots attempt to defend the court with some weird reasoning of their Kat cult and are mostly slaughtered.
- Coyote has been seeding himself in the Court via the tooth/Reynard/probably some other stuff I forgot, and basically created horcruxes of himself.
- Smitty dies as an unintended consequence of using his power to try to save the court.
(Wild speculation is a great coping mechanism when you're very anxious about a storyline.)
Or, possibly worse than all these: Ysengrin's attack on the Court results in everybody dying horrible deaths - at which point the action suddenly freezes, then turns out to be an image of some sort. Sir Young and the other Founders are seated around the table it hovers over. Sir Young says, "And that concludes the simulation Diego developed for what might happen if we settle next to Gilltie Wood and make it our base for our projects." Or even worse: it's one of Dr. Disaster's simulations |
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Post by novia on Mar 7, 2018 8:56:11 GMT
The court will use the "lake water," the tooth, the goose feather, and any other Coyote body part gifts to resurrect him, and instead of a war between Ysengrin and the court, we'll have battle of the dog-gods.
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Post by madjack on Mar 7, 2018 9:02:04 GMT
The court will use the "lake water," the tooth, the goose feather, and any other Coyote body part gifts to resurrect him, and instead of a war between Ysengrin and the court, we'll have battle of the dog-gods. OR..... They could find a way to give those powers to rey.... |
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Post by mturtle7 on Mar 7, 2018 20:46:11 GMT
The court will use the "lake water," the tooth, the goose feather, and any other Coyote body part gifts to resurrect him, and instead of a war between Ysengrin and the court, we'll have battle of the dog-gods. OR..... They could find a way to give those powers to rey.... OR BETTER YET...Subject Zeta...after all, they (or at least the Seraphs) have shown themselves capable of weaponizing her before! It's way too long since we had a Zimmy&Gamma story, honestly. |
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Post by todd on Mar 12, 2018 1:56:35 GMT
If we do indeed get a war, this could lead to Brynnie finally showing up in the present day. The role of the Valkyries is to carry those slain in battle off to Valhalla, which would give her a role to play (assuming we get deaths in the fighting).
(She didn't show up when Andrew was near death or when Mort was killed in the bombing, but that might make sense. Mort was a civilian, not a soldier, so from Odin's perspective, he wouldn't count. And Andrew might not have counted as a battle casualty, since it wasn't during open war with the Forest. Though a confrontation with a powerful warrior-ghost, even if it wasn't a clash of armies, would have certainly gained the Norse gods' respect.)
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 12, 2018 12:42:34 GMT
But don't the Valkyries only carry off those who believed in the Norse Gods?
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Post by jda on Mar 12, 2018 15:41:10 GMT
Cutting from here, this is my only hope on the TicToc business: So Diego created all the robots, but not the Tic Tocs? Will we ever find out who did create them? Yes. Sorry if this has been asked, but will we ever find out more about who created the Tic-tocs? Yep, I hope so. And also: Does anyone at the Court know the truth behind the Tic Tocs? I'll email you the details. If Kat loves both birds and robots, what does she think of the Tic-Tocs? She hasn't seen one yet How has the Court never caught and inspected a Tic Toc if they've wanted to for a long time, and the Tic Tocs allegedly predate the Court? Seems pretty odd, right? |
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Post by blazingstar on Mar 13, 2018 13:49:13 GMT
Was coming here to wildspec about TicTocs growing from the Seed Bismuth, but jda's Word of Tom answers poke some disturbing holes in my theory now.
EDIT: Or perhaps not. Just because they were created by someone doesn't mean they weren't grown from the Seed Bismuth, and just because they may have been created BEFORE Gunnerkrigg Court (the place) doesn't mean they weren't created BY Gunnerkrigg Court (the people....or a member).
However, I'm still holding on to my theory that documentation of their creation and working were destroyed by the court, just like documentation of what happened to Jeanne.
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Post by saardvark on Mar 14, 2018 13:06:52 GMT
Quick thought: what if the tick-tocs are earlier children of the Mechagoddess - a goddess of technology/Court as opposed to the forest gods we are familiar with so far. Maybe Kat is the most recent of her offspring. (An alternate take on the Mechagodess-Kat connection; maybe it has been suggested before?) Haven't fleshed out this idea yet.... or cross-checked against Words of Tom....
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Post by clover on Mar 15, 2018 21:35:57 GMT
Question for the forum: Coyote used to laugh quite a bit but I want to know if he's laughed in that characteristic way of his since pulling his tooth out to give to Antimony.
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Post by saardvark on Mar 16, 2018 1:46:02 GMT
Question for the forum: Coyote used to laugh quite a bit but I want to know if he's laughed in that characteristic way of his since pulling his tooth out to give to Antimony. you are thinking he put all his laughter into the snickering tooth-knife? |
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Post by jda on Mar 16, 2018 8:07:54 GMT
By the way, checking in www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=155, all the'pomps seem to be part of specific Legends about Death and guides to afterlife : Hermes, The Grim Reaper, etc. There is a greek/roman, an egyptian, an hinduistic(?), The Moodley Doo, Ketrak for the insects, Muut on the American Indian side(imported bc of Coyote?), etc. BUT Annie (or Surma, on the case) What group/nationality would she/they represent? Is there a ethnicgroup where FFireElementals were Afterlife Guides? On the other hand, Annie has already guided Surma (what was left of her humanity to be guided?), Mort, Jeanne, GreenZombieGuy , and, (being very open with the definition) even the AccidentalFireBoy. So would that make Annie a stranded souls pomp? |
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