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Post by Per on Oct 16, 2015 18:50:19 GMT
I don't think that I ever said Tom had to be held accountable for anything. I don't like his recent work on this comic, and I'm giving my views on why that is. I do feel that there is an intended message in his work, so I speculate on what that might be, how it is delivered, and whether it is worth telling. Whether a story is good or bad is subjective, but I don't think that prohibits us from forming opinions. I thought most of your points ("It wasn't a reflection of her true self" etc.) were well worth making, it was just the bit about statements that triggered one of my pet peeves, involving critics who are both disdainful of and unfamiliar with genre fiction going "this is an entirely derivative piece of [genre]... oh, and it's so bad it can't even follow [genre] conventions at all!" (To be clear to a fault, I'm not saying that you're a critic who is both disdainful and unfamiliar with genre fiction, just that it's a thing that happens and for me your post presented a reflection of it.) |
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Post by deuswyvern on Oct 16, 2015 20:24:41 GMT
I don't think that I ever said Tom had to be held accountable for anything. I don't like his recent work on this comic, and I'm giving my views on why that is. I do feel that there is an intended message in his work, so I speculate on what that might be, how it is delivered, and whether it is worth telling. Whether a story is good or bad is subjective, but I don't think that prohibits us from forming opinions. I thought most of your points ("It wasn't a reflection of her true self" etc.) were well worth making, it was just the bit about statements that triggered one of my pet peeves, involving critics who are both disdainful of and unfamiliar with genre fiction going "this is an entirely derivative piece of [genre]... oh, and it's so bad it can't even follow [genre] conventions at all!" (To be clear to a fault, I'm not saying that you're a critic who is both disdainful and unfamiliar with genre fiction, just that it's a thing that happens and for me your post presented a reflection of it.) I appreciate you candidness, and it might be that 'statement' is too strong of a word. I suppose what I am trying to get at is that much of Annie's psychological issues are grounded in reality, and it would be a bit naive of Tom not to recognize that. It also seems like it would be difficult to write her character without an opinion on what things positively influence her and what does not, and because the problem was grounded in reality, it raises the question as to whether or not the solution is grounded in reality or is purely fantastic. This is a discussion that is particularly interesting to me, and I may have been a bit too passionate. I think that Tom's writing and characterization have been very high throughout, which has given me high expectations for such an important arc. It certainly isn't impossible that everything will click together once the story's done, but right now I'm having trouble seeing how that will happen. Hopefully just an oversight on my part. |
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Post by warrl on Oct 16, 2015 20:34:54 GMT
Ooh! Panel 4! I just realised Ysengrin knows a *lot* more about Tony than he's been letting on! He probably had a talk with Coyote on the entire matter. Pretty sure Coyote was hoping Ysengrin would do something of the sort. Coyote is more of a crazy-uncle-figure than a father-figure. Therefore there are things he can't do with Annie, that Ysengrin can. Though I'm not quite sure where you're going with it, as living/green wood is actually flammable, it merely takes more heat and more time. You see this in forest fires that start with the deadwood and underbrush but eventually take out the living trees too. Which is why it's important to let wildfire rip through the dead wood and underbrush fairly frequently, so there isn't enough of a buildup to reach and ignite the canopy (which has a relatively large surface-to-mass ratio and therefore burns fairly easily) or cook and then ignite live wood. People do tend to solve their own psychological issues if they ever do solve them. Tom can certainly try new things, but I'm not seeing much value in this approach at the moment. Ysengrin is not solving Annie's problems. He is pushing HER into dealing with them, and thus possibly solving them, rather than stuffing them into a covered dish in the back of the refrigerator and ignoring them for a long time. |
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