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Post by smjjames on Sept 19, 2015 2:39:49 GMT
Angry Coyote god is angry, that's what I got out of it.
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Post by Trillium on Sept 19, 2015 2:50:11 GMT
Oh that there were someone who can make order out of chaos and sort out this situation like a really good medium. I think this is beyond even Smith's ability to fix.
If that is true things could get worse.
Think Tony is over that hangover?
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Post by justcurious on Sept 19, 2015 5:30:30 GMT
The Court did not anticipate Annie self-harming. And the way that she self-harmed was impossible for them to recognize at least if they had not anticipated and looked for it. However Coyote was immediately going to recognize that something was wrong though he does not yet realize that it is self-harm or know the reasons behind it.
Another attempt to control a situation leaving them worse off than if they had done nothing.
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Post by tootsiren on Sept 19, 2015 22:46:13 GMT
Total shot in the dark: Coyote overreacted in order to provoke split-Annie into reuniting.
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Post by warrl on Sept 20, 2015 17:29:24 GMT
I don't see how the court could not have foreseen Coyote's displeasure. It just takes a rather ordinary amount of bureaucratic stupidity. Oh that there were someone who can make order out of chaos and sort out this situation like a really good medium. I think this is beyond even Smith's ability to fix. The thing that puzzles me is, the mediums don't exist in isolation. They work, particularly, off each other. And I think Andrew was a lousy choice to be the Court Medium opposite Ysengrin (let alone Coyote). The spontaneity needed to deal effectively with such a volatile spirit is not in his nature. If they didn't want to give the job to the one person with proven, demonstrated ability to work with the wood-wolf, George would be a better choice than the guy they picked. Or Paz. Or Dr. Disaster. Or Cookie Monster. Or... Coyote actually, in my opinion, rescued the Court from itself by removing Ysengrin and appointing Annie as the new Forest Medium. Because Andrew and Annie have the temperament and teamwork to try to resolve any conflicts in ways that most benefit both Court and Forest. |
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Post by youwiththeface on Sept 20, 2015 20:28:42 GMT
I'd say the court doesn't already know that. You don't poke a bear and you don't try to play power games with Coyote. Unless one plans on eventually killing/controlling the bear and eventually killing/controlling Coyote. In the modern world, all bears are endangered species that live or go extinct at modern humanity's whim. All wolves and all great cats and all coyotes likewise. Humans poke the bear all the time, with utter impunity. We fully expect to get away with it, because if the bear gives us any guff we can pump it full of lead or tranq it and imprison it and euthanize it at our leisure. Your average schmuck on the street may not have a gun that can kill a bear, or a tranq. Bears occasionally roam the streets of California, and while animal control is called in to handle said bears, the people living in the neighborhood are urged to stay inside and not confront them. If the court has an equivalent of animal control for gods, they haven't been shown using it yet (and in fact if they did they wouldn't need to humor Coyote and Ysengrin as much as they have) which would cast them as the idiot who, despite the warnings, goes outside to play with the bear wandering his neighborhood. Not the wisest plan, certainly, because the end result is that we probably render all these species extinct in our domination of them. Then we get to uselessly mourn and regret their loss when it's way too late to actually get them back. Regardless of whether or not it will succeed, the Court is unwisely trying to grow into a position to dominate and defang Coyote. If they fail, it's a temporary catastrophe, but even if they succeed, it is a long-term catastrophe, since killing/controlling Coyote and the Forest will quite possibly destroy the goose that lays the golden eggs that make the Court function. This was basically my point. They are vastly underestimating Coyote's importance and power and one way or another it's going to bite them in the asses. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Sept 20, 2015 22:29:14 GMT
Regardless of whether or not it will succeed, the Court is unwisely trying to grow into a position to dominate and defang Coyote. They can try! *bares many, many teeth*
I might even let them pretend to win, if it was interesting enough! But they will never defang me, as all of the rocks of the earth are my sharp teeth, ready to bite. And even the Court itself, despite its might, is built on foundations of stone.  Also, I'm baaaaaaaack! Did ya' miss me? |
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Post by todd on Sept 20, 2015 23:50:30 GMT
I don't see how the court could not have foreseen Coyote's displeasure. It just takes a rather ordinary amount of bureaucratic stupidity. It reminds me of one of H. P. Lovecraft's stories, "The Shadow over Innsmouth". In the backstory, a sea-captain in a New England fishing village (the Innsmouth of the title) that's fallen on hard times makes a deal with the Deep Ones (fish-men living in the sea), who will give him gold, and provide the village with bounties of fish to catch, in return for a few young villagers as sacrifices. At first the other townspeople go along with it until they become concerned with just how many young people are disappearing, and turn on the captain and his supporters, throwing them in jail. What they overlook is what the Deep Ones will do when they notice that they haven't received any sacrifices lately.... |
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Post by wombat140 on Sept 22, 2015 13:45:22 GMT
That's a good one. I wonder whether Coyote is angry at the broken man, or angry as in "do not bother me with your broken man, you tiny people, you should have dealt with it". (Which is a point of view.) Probably neither. Probably just angry as in "Angry Coyote god is angry, never mind why, that's your problem". Random comment: it occurs to me that what Antimony is doing and what Anthony is doing are identical. Both think that they are the problem and have offended the other one somehow, so they try to put that right by trying to reduce themselves to a point. It's not working too well for either of them. The one saving grace is that Tony isn't doing any of this out of malice - he genuinely thinks that the way he's handling this makes sense. If someone could get it into his head that it doesn't, then maybe we'd get somewhere. But I think Coyote is about to do that, and then some  |
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Post by justcurious on Sept 22, 2015 14:41:02 GMT
Once they find out just what Annie has done to herself what will they do? Will Tony and Coyote and other Court members such as Jones and Eglamore beg her to reunite her psyche? Or will Coyote bring that about without asking? Would that be the right thing to do? Arguably it would be like involuntarily treating an insane person.
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