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Post by pxc on Jun 3, 2015 14:10:43 GMT
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Post by Fishy on Jun 3, 2015 14:38:07 GMT
Yeeeeah... something about Tony's expression here seems... sad. Yes I mean the same expression that he's had on since he first appeared last chapter. I guess it's more of how he just gives up and sits down to do whatever it is he's gonna do. You can almost hear him going "Aww..."
Or maybe that's just in my head.
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Post by nero on Jun 3, 2015 15:00:28 GMT
I hope Renard can go to sleep in that form because it must be boring having to see Anthony all the time.
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Post by Refugee on Jun 3, 2015 15:13:47 GMT
I have one particular word in mind, taught to every child as The Magic Word. [Oops, Ninja'd by Jim North, so I'll expand by example:] "Please talk with me; I'm worried about Antimony. Please." |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jun 3, 2015 15:37:56 GMT
Will Tony bring Rey to dinner? I wonder if we'll end up in a scenario where he'll produce Rey at the dinner table, then out of the blue will ask Kat to say something that would transfer ownership. No accusations or build up or anything, just a straight up request to see if she gets defensive. It would be consistent with his behaviour in regards to the sudden reappearance in the classroom. Another interesting thing would be to see how the Donlans would react to Rey. We've already seen that hes on good terms with Eglamore, but the last time I remember him interacting with either of the Donlans was when Anja was teaching Annie how to use the blinker stone. Just my opinion... If Anthony knew Kat was just in his house, then he might try something like that. But I think Anthony is more likely to gather data before making a play like that. And I think he would be more likely to put Annie on the spot than Kat. |
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Post by KMar on Jun 3, 2015 15:41:42 GMT
Has he been trying this every time he gets home? Has anyone told him a definition of insanity is to keep trying the same thing and expecting the result to change? A scientific mind knows that a slight change in parameters can mean a great deal, so it's better to always check if you can reproduce your results. He's testing, and he's thinking. He already suspects that Annie is lying to him, it won't be long before he knows for sure. It would have bought them more time if Rey had at least pretended to be under his control...The bolded part x9000+. I thought Renard was supposed to be cunning? Or was it only relative to Ysengrin? |
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Post by Sadie on Jun 3, 2015 17:57:04 GMT
Looking at this page, I had the sudden thought of "Man, what if he just really wants to talk with Rey?" and then I was struck by how extraordinarily ass-backwards he was going about it if that was his goal.
I'm really interested by Tony as a character, and even moreso by Annie and Kat's differing perspectives of him.
Annie sees his behavior and approach as expected and normal, likely because it's consistent with how she's always known him to be. Quiet, critical, controlling, and controlled. Kat is convinced that he has to be there for nefarious means, because nothing about his sudden appearance and re-ordering of Annie's life makes sense to her otherwise. It's still not clear what the real answer is going to be.
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Post by eyemyself on Jun 3, 2015 19:39:23 GMT
Looking at this page, I had the sudden thought of "Man, what if he just really wants to talk with Rey?" and then I was struck by how extraordinarily ass-backwards he was going about it if that was his goal. I'm really interested by Tony as a character, and even moreso by Annie and Kat's differing perspectives of him. Annie sees his behavior and approach as expected and normal, likely because it's consistent with how she's always known him to be. Quiet, critical, controlling, and controlled. Kat is convinced that he has to be there for nefarious means, because nothing about his sudden appearance and re-ordering of Annie's life makes sense to her otherwise. It's still not clear what the real answer is going to be. Probably somewhere in the middle, the truth usually is. Human's are complex, fallible, creatures and the best of us often thing we are much better at communication than we actually are. Tom is a gifted enough writer to capture that. I am also intrigued by where this story line is going with the character of Tony. We know so little, but the contextual clues we do have are pretty grim. |
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Post by geoduck on Jun 3, 2015 19:56:12 GMT
Probably somewhere in the middle, the truth usually is. Human's are complex, fallible, creatures and the best of us often thing we are much better at communication than we actually are. Tom is a gifted enough writer to capture that. I am also intrigued by where this story line is going with the character of Tony. We know so little, but the contextual clues we do have are pretty grim. It could still turn out that this isn't Tony at all, but I hope that's not where Tom is going with this. |
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Post by eyemyself on Jun 3, 2015 20:02:41 GMT
Probably somewhere in the middle, the truth usually is. Human's are complex, fallible, creatures and the best of us often thing we are much better at communication than we actually are. Tom is a gifted enough writer to capture that. I am also intrigued by where this story line is going with the character of Tony. We know so little, but the contextual clues we do have are pretty grim. It could still turn out that this isn't Tony at all, but I hope that's not where Tom is going with this. I think that is highly unlikely. |
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Post by eyemyself on Jun 3, 2015 20:09:21 GMT
Something I failed to notice until I saw this comment over on the comic page:
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Post by machival on Jun 3, 2015 20:25:51 GMT
Something I failed to notice until I saw this comment over on the comic page: Remember, Tony has a prosthetic for his right hand. he's not walking around with an unadorned stump. |
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Post by Epsilon Rose on Jun 3, 2015 20:46:04 GMT
Will Tony bring Rey to dinner? I wonder if we'll end up in a scenario where he'll produce Rey at the dinner table, then out of the blue will ask Kat to say something that would transfer ownership. No accusations or build up or anything, just a straight up request to see if she gets defensive. It would be consistent with his behaviour in regards to the sudden reappearance in the classroom. I can't see that working out well for him even if he could prove it. Tony: Ah ha! So you do own him. Kat: Ok. You figured it out. Good for you. Tony: I demand you give me ownership. Kat: No. I'll be more interested to see how they react to Tony himself. Unless there's more going on behind the scenes, I expect them to be quite annoyed with him at this point, so if they aren't it might hint at what's actually afoot. |
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Post by warrl on Jun 3, 2015 22:39:25 GMT
I'll be more interested to see how they react to Tony himself. Unless there's more going on behind the scenes, I expect them to be quite annoyed with him at this point, so if they aren't it might hint at what's actually afoot. Of course, they may attempt to politely hide their annoyance... I won't guess how successful they might be and for how long. |
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Post by fish on Jun 4, 2015 0:25:49 GMT
Something I failed to notice until I saw this comment over on the comic page: Remember, Tony has a prosthetic for his right hand. he's not walking around with an unadorned stump. Hah! Since page 1515 I've been wondering why Anthony would put his right hand into his pocket like that, seemed rather 'frivolous' for mister emotionless. But he's still hiding his prosthetic, of course! |
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Post by jocobo on Jun 4, 2015 0:47:59 GMT
I wonder if we'll end up in a scenario where he'll produce Rey at the dinner table, then out of the blue will ask Kat to say something that would transfer ownership. No accusations or build up or anything, just a straight up request to see if she gets defensive. It would be consistent with his behaviour in regards to the sudden reappearance in the classroom. I can't see that working out well for him even if he could prove it. Tony: Ah ha! So you do own him. Kat: Ok. You figured it out. Good for you. Tony: I demand you give me ownership. Kat: No. I'll be more interested to see how they react to Tony himself. Unless there's more going on behind the scenes, I expect them to be quite annoyed with him at this point, so if they aren't it might hint at what's actually afoot. To which I imagine he will say Tony: All further contact with my daughter is to cease immediately. I will relocate her to a more suited location. As you are complicit in her disobedience, you are likely a negative influence. It's not Kat or Renard who will suffer if they get caught, it's Annie. |
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Post by Refugee on Jun 4, 2015 1:21:23 GMT
Tony: All further contact with my daughter is to cease immediately. I will relocate her to a more suited location. As you are complicit in her disobedience, you are likely a negative influence. Be interesting to see how the Donlans react to that. I mean, it's not like he has any hold over Kat like he does with Annie, since Kat's never done anything like, oh, say, breaking and entering.... |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Jun 4, 2015 2:04:24 GMT
How did Anthony not see them through the window? Also right in the nick of time. Looks like those windows face west and the sun is setting. Generally all that would be seen would be light reflecting off. |
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Post by Refugee on Jun 4, 2015 3:23:33 GMT
He already suspects that Annie is lying to him, it won't be long before he knows for sure. It would have bought them more time if Rey had at least pretended to be under his control...The bolded part x9000+. I thought Renard was supposed to be cunning? Or was it only relative to Ysengrin? What did they need more time for? They found Renard, and know he's OK, which is all they were going to do anyway, right? And they can pretty much go back any time they want. But right now, mission accomplished, get yer butts outta there. It never goes well when a quick in and out succumbs to mission creep. |
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Post by geoduck on Jun 4, 2015 5:00:50 GMT
The bolded part x9000+. I thought Renard was supposed to be cunning? Or was it only relative to Ysengrin? What did they need more time for? They found Renard, and know he's OK, which is all they were going to do anyway, right? And they can pretty much go back any time they want. But right now, mission accomplished, get yer butts outta there. It never goes well when a quick in and out succumbs to mission creep. "More time" in terms of days and weeks, not minutes. If Renard replied to Anthony and made every effort to string him along, instead of maintaining absolute silence, Anthony might not become as suspicious/resort to more drastic methods as quickly. Of course, that option opens up a whole new can of worms, so.. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jun 4, 2015 5:55:00 GMT
A scientific mind knows that a slight change in parameters can mean a great deal, so it's better to always check if you can reproduce your results. He's testing, and he's thinking. He already suspects that Annie is lying to him, it won't be long before he knows for sure. It would have bought them more time if Rey had at least pretended to be under his control...The bolded part x9000+. I thought Renard was supposed to be cunning? Or was it only relative to Ysengrin? I actually disagree entirely. If Rey showed/pretended that he had to follow Anthony's orders, it might string the latter along for a while, true. But soon enough, Anthony would give an order that Rey could/would not follow (which is why we were wary of Anthony having control in the first place) and the entire farce would be obvious. Better to have him guessing about it altogether, so the process of piecing things back together will be more gradual and thus slower. Admittedly, both options are bad, and things will probably come to a head soon. On another topic, one of my non-forum friends suggested:  |
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Post by Eversist on Jun 4, 2015 6:45:50 GMT
Maybe Tony just wants a friend to reminisce about his deceased wife with. /s
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Post by madragoran on Jun 4, 2015 7:07:28 GMT
Maybe Tony just wants a friend to reminisce about his deceased wife with. /s I am very sorry but this made me Tony: I only want to talk about Surma, Rey Rey: Oh yes. Lets discuss how you took her away from us and allowed her to die. Tony:  Rey: No? How about how you are treating her daughter? Tony:  Rey: What? I never started this conversation! O:) |
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Post by youwiththeface on Jun 4, 2015 7:47:40 GMT
I can't see that working out well for him even if he could prove it. Tony: Ah ha! So you do own him. Kat: Ok. You figured it out. Good for you. Tony: I demand you give me ownership. Kat: No. I'll be more interested to see how they react to Tony himself. Unless there's more going on behind the scenes, I expect them to be quite annoyed with him at this point, so if they aren't it might hint at what's actually afoot. To which I imagine he will say Tony: All further contact with my daughter is to cease immediately. I will relocate her to a more suited location. As you are complicit in her disobedience, you are likely a negative influence. It's not Kat or Renard who will suffer if they get caught, it's Annie. Well it's not like Parley and Smitty couldn't pop Kat in without Anthony's knowledge. |
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Post by krehlmar on Jun 4, 2015 13:29:45 GMT
Before I didn't like him but... But now he just looks so, pathetic? Sad even.
I almost wish I could hug him or make him feel better.
Maybe he just reminds me of my own dad who's a godamn genius but also emotionally retarded and incapable.
It'll be interesting to see his character evolve, at the moment all we have points to him being a selfish dick but I think it goes deeper than that. The scar, the lost hand, caring for her studies etc.
I'd be surprised and let down if he really just was as one-dimensional and dick-ish as he appears
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Post by quark on Jun 4, 2015 16:25:42 GMT
The bolded part x9000+. I thought Renard was supposed to be cunning? Or was it only relative to Ysengrin? I actually disagree entirely. If Rey showed/pretended that he had to follow Anthony's orders, it might string the latter along for a while, true. But soon enough, Anthony would give an order that Rey could/would not follow (which is why we were wary of Anthony having control in the first place) and the entire farce would be obvious. Better to have him guessing about it altogether, so the process of piecing things back together will be more gradual and thus slower. Admittedly, both options are bad, and things will probably come to a head soon. I think Renard chose this one because if he reacted, Anthony could order him to do humiliating/dangerous/harmful stuff, and to play along, Rey probably would have to do very painful things. And it would be for nothing, since Anthony would figure out what's up anyway. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jun 4, 2015 17:58:19 GMT
Now I half-expect Tony, at dinner, to ask the Donlans for help communicating with Rey, using their aetheric computer powers. That's gonna be awkward for Kat when they accept.
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 4, 2015 20:11:59 GMT
Anthony: "Renard, I command you to show yourself." Renard (thinking): "Are you dumb? You're looking at me, it's not like I'm invisible or hiding myself." Silly Anthony, Renard is already in your sights. Maybe you should get your eyes checked. I was puzzled about that part at first myself - Renard's out there on the desk - until I realized that Anthony meant by "show yourself" to come out of his "stuffed toy mode". Indeed. He says "show yourself" while Renard is already showing his plushie butt. That could fail even if he was actually forced to obey Tony. Hmm, it looks like Anthony doesn't quite live up to the reputation of a guy who pays so much attention to details that he can't see forest behind all those leaves. Did he get more loose/sloppy, is he fake, or maybe Donald simply added extra wishful thinking on top in the first place? Ze magick word! No wonder nothing extraordinary happened. Looking at this page, I had the sudden thought of "Man, what if he just really wants to talk with Rey?" and then I was struck by how extraordinarily ass-backwards he was going about it if that was his goal. But then, "ass-backwards" seems to be his usual approach. I begin to worry wonder about how it's compatible with being a surgeon. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 4, 2015 23:45:38 GMT
He's not walking around with an unadorned stump. For some reason when I read this, my first thought was bedazzling. As if, there's a secret compartment in the comfy chair, filled with crystals, glitter, and rhinestones. He sits there all night affixing them, so he'll feel pretty underneath his prosthetic. Rey just didn't have the heart to tell any of them. Indeed. He says "show yourself" while Renard is already showing his plushie butt. That could fail even if he was actually forced to obey Tony. Hmm, it looks like Anthony doesn't quite live up to the reputation of a guy who pays so much attention to details that he can't see forest behind all those leaves. Did he get more loose/sloppy, is he fake, or maybe Donald simply added extra wishful thinking on top in the first place? Tony has got to know more about the Ether than he's let on (bone lasers from space, and all). But perhaps, we've all given Tony too much credit, and he really doesn't know anything about how possession works. Maybe, he's thinking it's more like a genie in a lamp. |
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Post by catsneezes on Jun 5, 2015 1:12:16 GMT
Geez Tony is pathetic. Like the kind of person who thinks white toast and water is a flavourful breakfast. I don't pity him though. Not after his actions.
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