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Post by hnau on May 4, 2015 11:42:38 GMT
I got the feeling that Kat's not visiting Annie, but starting up a conspiracy against Mr. Carver... This is my thought, too. Kat's body language is pretty shifty for going to her friend's house... Robot conspiracy, I'm hoping. It looks like she's carrying something. Renard?
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Post by madragoran on May 4, 2015 12:12:25 GMT
The Vorlon made Annie get rid of all her personal belongings to eliminate distractions. Except for the mattress, but that was more of a concession towards the need to sleep. B5 quote ftw! Maybe someone should ask Mr Carver to "Jump! Jump now!" only there wouldn't be anything below but a pit of Shadows.
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Post by serendipity on May 4, 2015 12:24:43 GMT
This is my thought, too. Kat's body language is pretty shifty for going to her friend's house... Robot conspiracy, I'm hoping. It looks like she's carrying something. Renard? That was actually my initial thought- that she's got Renard in that jacket and is smuggling him somewhere safe.
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Post by brilliantgrey on May 4, 2015 12:36:05 GMT
This isn't Annie's new place. It's something else. Maybe Renards new cage? Although, coupled with the title page, a sort of "dumbledores army" type resistance amongst kat and Annie's schoolfriends doesn't seen out of the question. I second the 'cage-for-our-dear-and-lonely-friend-Reynard' idea. Poor little guy. I guess at least he's used to it? But I swear to every deity thus far mentioned in the comic that if this is where Annie is living, I will find a way to punch Anthony. Or set him on fire, or just...something. (I just hate him so much. haha. ha. HA.) However, Dumbledore's Army/Kat finally becomes the Angel, God of Destruction and Also Punching Anthony is sounding nice right about now as well. It occurs to me that Shadow can't visit whoever is in here. (not that I'm crying or anything)
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Post by todd on May 4, 2015 12:40:28 GMT
Kat had enough time to change, though, and I really hope she talked to her parents. Annie's trust for authorities other than her father might not be great, but Kat usually is more reasonable than that. Annie really, really needs help, and she isn't going to get it herself. Though as I mentioned last week, I wonder what Mr. and Mrs. Donlan can do. They're teachers at the Court, yes, but not part of the "inner circle" like the Headmaster that hold the real power - and if that "inner circle" approves of Anthony's actions (and they probably would; it removes the problems they've been having with Annie's exploring and meddling, not to mention her links to the forest), Anya and Donald can't overrule them. They could try talking to Anthony, but from what we've seen of him, I doubt they'd be able to get him to change his mind.
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Post by quark on May 4, 2015 12:42:06 GMT
This is my thought, too. Kat's body language is pretty shifty for going to her friend's house... Robot conspiracy, I'm hoping. It looks like she's carrying something. Renard? I thought she was putting her hands in her jacket - probably it's cold outside, since she's wearing one. But there's hope! I don't know if I want her to steal Renard or not, since it could land her in serious trouble. Annie's in trouble anyway, and it can't get so much worse, but Kat's not under surveillance yet. And she has sophisticated robots at her disposal, so probably they could help out. Although - thinking about it... let's imagine Kat (and Annie) find a way to give Renard to Anthony without giving him full control. Or any control at all, and Renard fakes it - he's a trickster. He specialises in getting under people's skin and learning their secrets, so an undercover Renard could be very helpful in finding out what Anthony's up to.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 4, 2015 12:53:25 GMT
I thought she was putting her hands in her jacket - probably it's cold outside, since she's wearing one... If it is cold out, then a lot of time has passed since the last chapter. I don't know how quickly it gets cold at the Court, but my guess is that this page might be three or four months into the school year. The jacket is one of those fashionable half jackets. Not the kind of jacket Kat would normally wear. We have seen Annie wearing clothes like this. Maybe it is Annie's and Kat is wearing it in her memory like Kat wore Allie's cloths after he flew away. EDIT: This grey jacket is the one I remember Annie wearing. Kat is wearing brown, but I still want to believe that Annie left it for Kat, along with other clothes she thought her "father" would not let her wear.
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Post by quark on May 4, 2015 12:53:32 GMT
Kat had enough time to change, though, and I really hope she talked to her parents. Annie's trust for authorities other than her father might not be great, but Kat usually is more reasonable than that. Annie really, really needs help, and she isn't going to get it herself. Though as I mentioned last week, I wonder what Mr. and Mrs. Donlan can do. They're teachers at the Court, yes, but not part of the "inner circle" like the Headmaster that hold the real power - and if that "inner circle" approves of Anthony's actions (and they probably would; it removes the problems they've been having with Annie's exploring and meddling, not to mention her links to the forest), Anya and Donald can't overrule them. They could try talking to Anthony, but from what we've seen of him, I doubt they'd be able to get him to change his mind. Probably not, but they could offer emotional support and probably even tutoring. Also, they're responsible for classes in which Annie cheated, and they knew (apparently), so why the hell didn't they say anything before? And for the talking to him - I really want Donald's positive image of Anthony shattered. I think it's very telling that Annie's reaction to a call from her parent doesn't surprise Donald one bit, and he still tries to paint Anthony in a positive light. Telling Annie the story about Brinnie, telling Annie that her father could have contacted them all the time, and did use her as recording device so he could hear her voice. And it works, because that Annie's and Anthony's relationship is just that messed up.
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Post by faythofdragons on May 4, 2015 13:29:48 GMT
It looks like such a depressing and terrible kind of lodging that, clearly, it can only be Boxbot's house. View AttachmentIt's even worse than I imagined! Anthony is making Annie room with Boxbot?!
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Post by Deepbluediver on May 4, 2015 14:04:35 GMT
If this is where Anthony has Annie staying, I will immediately begin research into the theoretical physics of reaching into a fictional universe in order to punch a fictional character. Hang on, I've got my notes on that from the time I watched Evangelion around here somewhere....
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Post by The Anarch on May 4, 2015 15:04:20 GMT
It occurs to me that Shadow can't visit whoever is in here. (not that I'm crying or anything) Shadow is no longer stuck lurking in the shadows now that he's a three dimensional being.
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Post by freeman on May 4, 2015 15:12:11 GMT
Not in the Gunnerkrigg Court though, they'd be maglev like "every train the court".
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Post by Refugee on May 4, 2015 17:36:52 GMT
I think it's Robot and Shadow. Presuming that light is no longer toxic to Shadow.
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Post by csj on May 4, 2015 19:29:18 GMT
Downunder? I wish. Oh how I wish...
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Post by nero on May 4, 2015 19:33:36 GMT
It could be Renard but Zimmy and Gamma make more sense. There's two chairs and maybe only one person sitting there. It might even be a new character. Kat looks great in that jacket. I'm hoping we don't see anything too shocking.
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Post by TBeholder on May 4, 2015 20:31:35 GMT
So... Kat decided to visit the Loveboat?
[tumblrina] "ANTHONY KEEPS ANNIE IN THE FRIDGE TO FREEZE OUT the FIRE ELEMENTAL AND HIS BONELASORS ARE SUPERCONDUCTIVE!!1one" [/tumblrina]
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Post by matoyak on May 4, 2015 21:26:42 GMT
I think I'm leaning towards Zimmy here, or a Dumbledore's Army style thing, more than Renard's prison. But I could see that being the case, too. :/ [Renard] specialises in getting under people's skin Hahaha.
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Post by TheClockworkCoyote on May 4, 2015 22:11:38 GMT
The Vorlon made Annie get rid of all her personal belongings to eliminate distractions. Except for the mattress, but that was more of a concession towards the need to sleep. B5 quote ftw! Maybe someone should ask Mr Carver to "Jump! Jump now!" only there wouldn't be anything below but a pit of Shadows. If you go to Z'ha'dum you will die. ....also am I the only one who thinks of Maxwell's Silver Hammer whenever they read this thread title?
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Post by Corvo on May 4, 2015 22:15:54 GMT
I wonder who opened the door. Or, if Kat did it herself, what would've happened if she hadn't knocked clanged first.
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Post by Refugee on May 4, 2015 23:10:35 GMT
I wonder who opened the door. Or, if Kat did it herself, what would've happened if she hadn't knocked clanged first. It looks like an interstitial space to me, and the door is rudimentary. So I'm sure Kat opened it herself, and knocked pretty much as a courtesy. Although you don't really want to know what Robot and Shadow do when they're alone, anymore than you want to watch Bud and Lindsey smooch.
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Post by todd on May 5, 2015 0:26:27 GMT
Also, they're responsible for classes in which Annie cheated, and they knew (apparently), so why the hell didn't they say anything before? Yes, that's one of the mysteries about the Court. What sort of school ignores a student cheating until her father shows up? I could assume it's the higher-ups' amoral tone (maybe even to the point of recognizing that it would be hypocritical for them to make a fuss about it in light of the kind of things the Court's been guilty of), but the Donlans don't strike me as displaying as much of that as the higher-ups do. Why didn't they speak to Annie about it in private? We'll probably have to file that one alongside the question of how the Court missed the Seraphs stealing those paper talismans and etheric beacons.
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Post by aline on May 5, 2015 6:35:00 GMT
Also, they're responsible for classes in which Annie cheated, and they knew (apparently), so why the hell didn't they say anything before? We don't know that. Mrs. Donlan taught Annie and Kat's class in their first year, but Annie wasn't cheating yet, back then. She started in year 2. At that point Mrs. Donlan no longer appeared as her teacher. Mr. Donlan teaches Math to the higher years, we never saw him teach Kat's and Annie's class. Of course it doesn't mean they didn't know, since the Court knew it's likely they were told at some point. I want to believe that if they had known for a long time, they would have tried to talk to Annie about it, though.
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Post by GK Sierra on May 5, 2015 7:45:46 GMT
It looks a little like this room... But then again I don't see any windows so maybe not.
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Post by quark on May 5, 2015 10:52:58 GMT
It looks a little like this room... But then again I don't see any windows so maybe not. Could be, but I always thought that was in the hospital
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Post by quark on May 5, 2015 12:09:40 GMT
Also, they're responsible for classes in which Annie cheated, and they knew (apparently), so why the hell didn't they say anything before? We don't know that. Mrs. Donlan taught Annie and Kat's class in their first year, but Annie wasn't cheating yet, back then. She started in year 2. At that point Mrs. Donlan no longer appeared as her teacher. Mr. Donlan teaches Math to the higher years, we never saw him teach Kat's and Annie's class. Of course it doesn't mean they didn't know, since the Court knew it's likely they were told at some point. I want to believe that if they had known for a long time, they would have tried to talk to Annie about it, though. Good point. that's what I'm hoping for - that they're not really involved in all this mess and might be able to help
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Post by atteSmythe on May 5, 2015 17:22:42 GMT
I've been assuming that Annie's teachers didn't know about her cheating, but that the Court did. Much like I doubt the teachers are involved with tracking the students using nanites. If homework and test results are stored in the students' files, the Court could do a separate statistical analysis to figure out who's cheating, and that wouldn't have to involve the teachers beyond the initial data entry.
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Post by nightwind on May 5, 2015 19:49:00 GMT
And even if they are, it doesn't mean they had to know for long. They could have discovered the cheating recently and then examined all the older homework to see how far back that goes.
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Post by aline on May 5, 2015 21:12:02 GMT
I've been assuming that Annie's teachers didn't know about her cheating, but that the Court did. Much like I doubt the teachers are involved with tracking the students using nanites. If homework and test results are stored in the students' files, the Court could do a separate statistical analysis to figure out who's cheating, and that wouldn't have to involve the teachers beyond the initial data entry. It's likely they'd be the first ones to notice, though.They're the ones who correct all the student's work, and believe me it'd be hard for a teacher to miss the strange coincidence of Annie always making the same mistakes as her best friend and table neighbor. In real life, teachers tend to see these things a mile away.
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