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Post by spoonr on Apr 3, 2015 14:00:46 GMT
She works, you could say, for the Realm of the Dead. Anthony can strip her naked and lock her in a stone cell, and she will still be a psychopomp. That's not trivial or irrelevant.I think a good hard stare at the 6th treatise is in order:
I noticed, but don't have an explanation for:
- The Taurus symbol at the very top of the Tree
Taurus has been answered previously. Alchemical symbol for Bismuth, apparently represents the Court Gunnerkrigg Wiki (Bismuth)
Assuming this is a dream or dreamlike, I see two possibilities (that make it more interesting than a regular nightmare). Maybe this is a flashback and we are seeing what Annie dreamt while she was in the coma/getting operated on by dad. Or, this is a dream for both Antimony and her dad - an early communication across their etheric link. I think the biggest argument against it is that Antimony doesn't have the 'etheric cheek wound'.
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Post by Daedalus on Apr 3, 2015 14:13:24 GMT
Ok, I'm gonna call BS on Anthony for this. Not even the court as a whole has the authority to revoke the Forest Medium status, from what I recall. They should not be able to do this, yeesh. Though I suppose they could threaten to revoke her admission altogether: "If you love that Forest so much, stay there! The Court is no longer open to you." But has Anthony ever said that this is the Court's decision? It seems to me like he's doing this unilaterally, in which case he *definitely* can't revoke her medium status. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 3, 2015 14:18:04 GMT
So the real question is what's important. A few memories of him and a lot of second-guesses she retains from before the Court, or... oh, that's her whole life as she is now. Ok, I'm gonna call BS on Anthony for this. Not even the court as a whole has the authority to revoke the Forest Medium status, from what I recall. The Court might not, but a father? Abilities aside, Antimony is still a minor and Anthony is still her legal guardian. That, too. Then again, Coyote may hold that if Anthony wasn't needed to decide the matter back then, he isn't now either. And that if he wanted to speak for her, all it would take is for him to be present back then, like everyone in the Court whom it concerned. I think the medium thing might just be his game. I'm pretty sure the only way for him to achieve that would be for Annie to resign the position herself. Only she wouldn't normally do that. So all the punishments, isolation, I-am-so-disappointed thing might be for the sole sake of her doing that, because he told her to. In the state of mind she is now she probably doesn't even think she can say no. Either, or. She may just flip out. Or laugh, for once - he is trying to override a god, after all. If I am right then Annie will have to find out how to stand up to her father. is overdue either way. The Court might not, but a father? Abilities aside, Antimony is still a minor and Anthony is still her legal guardian. Push too hard, though, and she can run to the forest for good. It's not like Coyote is going to send her back. Oh, but she's a Medium. Coyote may have to send her back. Of course, whether she will be daughter of Anthony (biologically) at that point is entirely up to her. So she does have a "nuclear option", should things come to this. " Student of the Court and a honorary citizen of the Forest Antimony Carver applied for permanent Gilittie Wood citizenship on the grounds of personal reasons. The representative of Gilittie Wood Antimony Carver agreed to consider the petition and present it before Coyote." Do you see Anthony as somehow an integral part of this process? I don't. What he's going to do after that - demand to return or convert back? On what grounds? She could prufusely apologize for this little breach of the protocol later, aand that will be it - what the Headmaster would do, demand to remove her from this position and assign Ysengrin back?..  The panel where we see Kat's expression as she eavesdrops outside the door also makes me think it's not a dream--if the POV were more tightly centered on Annie, I'd believe it. I still think this is some kind of bluff on Anthony's part, though. Unlikely indeed, but if it is a dream, it may be Kat's. But maybe that will be the moment that Annie finally realizes that she has to stop making excuses for her father and she frees Reynardine instead of giving him to Anthony. Hijinks ensue... Why? She may well release Renard in any other (or original) body and then give the plushie to Anthony. |
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Post by pxc on Apr 3, 2015 14:20:23 GMT
This is honestly starting to get a little old. The makeup thing was at least somewhat reasonable, as was having her stay after class to talk about cheating... but I highly doubt a simple biology teacher would have the authority to send her back a year, and say that she can no longer be the forest medium, unless he's secretly the headmaster of the Court. It's sort of reminding me of what some people were saying with "The Stone" (i.e. "We get it, she's old"): We get it, he's a dickhead. Even Umbridge from Harry Potter had a break from her awfulness; when Harry first met her, he got kicked out of class. Here, it's just non-stop awfulness to the point where it's getting unbelievable. Very interesting comparison. I didn't start reading GC until after that chapter was already complete. And it is one of my favorites, I even have a playlist for when I re-read it. But I can imagine waiting for updates and being frustrated with the seeming lack of progression. So I expect that later, when we are able to read these pages in quick succession, they'll be quite good. For now though I'm very ready to move forward. This is why I need to find a few other webcomics to enjoy besides GK and Paranatural. |
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Post by speedwell on Apr 3, 2015 14:23:02 GMT
I thought that was a bridge too far... that is, proposing that Antimony might become officially a Forest citizen rather than simply the Medium... but I'm glad to see someone else also thought of it.
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Post by Pig_catapult on Apr 3, 2015 14:30:50 GMT
Doing something awful for the right intentions doesn't make it ok. I think he knows what he's doing isn't the nicest way to go about it either, even if he might not realize just how emotionally abusive he's actually being. As someone who has autism and was horribly abused for over a decade by someone who has even more severe autism (relevant because people keep speculating about Tony possibly being on the spectrum)? Not being able to comprehend that what you're doing to someone is abuse does not make it less harmful to that person. It also doesn't entitle you to forgiveness. No-one owes their abuser forgiveness. Ever. |
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Post by speedwell on Apr 3, 2015 14:34:20 GMT
Doing something awful for the right intentions doesn't make it ok. I think he knows what he's doing isn't the nicest way to go about it either, even if he might not realize just how emotionally abusive he's actually being. As someone who has autism and was horribly abused for over a decade by someone who has even more severe autism (relevant because people keep speculating about Tony possibly being on the spectrum)? Not being able to comprehend that what you're doing to someone is abuse does not make it less harmful to that person. It also doesn't entitle you to forgiveness. No-one owes their abuser forgiveness. Ever. Quoted for truth. Back in my old third-edition D&D days, we would have called Anthony "lawful evil". (Very lawful. Very evil.) |
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Post by Elysium on Apr 3, 2015 14:46:08 GMT
The jerkness is approaching critical mass here.
"I don't actually know my daughter but I pretend to know what's good for her", Anthony is definitely gunning for the very top of my "fictional character hall of shame"
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Post by Spades Slick on Apr 3, 2015 14:58:16 GMT
We seem to be making a lot of assumptions about Anthony's role in the Court. I agree with the handful of people who believe that he's pretty highly ranked up there to be making these edicts; haven't Jones and Eglamore handed down other restrictions, as well? Heck, near the very beginning, Eglamore gave Anne detention, and he was "just" the games keeper, not yet her teacher. If you're a staff person in the Court, you seem to have authoritative powers not simply delineated by what's on your badge. Anthony may well be within his Court-appointed authority to hand down whatever punishments and restrictions they/he feel are necessary.
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Post by kelantar on Apr 3, 2015 15:03:08 GMT
I honestly think she'll go along with anything he says at this point, because he has her trained to to that, but I don't think Kat has ever expressed how much she hates Anthony to Annie's face, and I'm betting she's gonna go off when Annie come to pick up her stuff from their apartment. So I saw the I support Mr. Carver banners going around, but I feel like we need a Mr. Carver is a bag of dicks banner. Ok, I'm gonna call BS on Anthony for this. Not even the court as a whole has the authority to revoke the Forest Medium status, from what I recall. Agreed, she was named medium by Coyote, who I think would laugh in Anthony's face if he tried to explain any of this. Of course, he pretty much laughs in everyone's face. Couldn't she use the hours not spent on history and biology to study those subjects on the next year's level? And if scheduling makes that an impossibility, why not use the hours saved to actually perform the medium duties? Because this isn't really about schoolwork. I think this page finally clears it up that this really is about locking Annie down. Honestly, it's one of the only leverage points left other than her blinker stone. Haha, I'd love to see him try to take the blinker stone. He'd lock it up tight and then the next day she'd have it again. "But it's just a simple monocrystal! AAARGH!" Are Donny and Jones in on this? I like to think that if Donny or Jones knew anything about this, they would be more sympathetic towards Annie. Donny knows how much Annie has been hurting from her father's absence and doesn't seem to be the type to condone it. I also like to think that Jones has her students best interests at heart over the Court's politics. Looking at the last two frames, Annie says, "But I work for--", and her Father interrupts, "No". That is, no she doesn't work for the Forest, or Coyote, and never has. She is the forest medium. The medium for the forest is she. By the way. Great Umbridge gambit there, Tom. Yeah, I haven't raged this much at a fictional character since HP5. Which is of course indicative of very good writing, although if I saw Tom in public right now I would be tempted to give him a good BAP. |
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Post by Corvo on Apr 3, 2015 15:03:38 GMT
"Study study study" and "no etheric nonsense", he says. Well, maybe the tree referred in the chapter title is the biblical tree of knowledge, after all. You know, the one with the apple and the Tony serpent.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 3, 2015 15:22:38 GMT
I wonder what the official policy is for the forest medium to file a complaint about restrictions placed on her ability to do her job? She may not be able to get a message to Smitface and even if she could I doubt he'll be granted opportunity to spill the beans. If held incommunicado, or if the Court chose to ignore Antimony's petition to visit the Wood over her father's objection, I suppose she'll have to send Renard in secret to complain to Coyote. If the forest sends up a signal, the Court will have to reply. This is honestly starting to get a little old. The makeup thing was at least somewhat reasonable, as was having her stay after class to talk about cheating... but I highly doubt a simple biology teacher would have the authority to send her back a year, and say that she can no longer be the forest medium, unless he's secretly the headmaster of the Court. It's sort of reminding me of what some people were saying with "The Stone" (i.e. "We get it, she's old"): We get it, he's a dickhead. Even Umbridge from Harry Potter had a break from her awfulness; when Harry first met her, he got kicked out of class. Here, it's just non-stop awfulness to the point where it's getting unbelievable. Very interesting comparison. I didn't start reading GC until after that chapter was already complete. And it is one of my favorites, I even have a playlist for when I re-read it. But I can imagine waiting for updates and being frustrated with the seeming lack of progression. So I expect that later, when we are able to read these pages in quick succession, they'll be quite good. For now though I'm very ready to move forward. This is why I need to find a few other webcomics to enjoy besides GK and Paranatural. Struth, one's Tony Carver fatigue will not hurry the pace of updates one minute. I plan on entertaining myself with the forum and fanart (time permitting) until we see Antimony's considered response... and that might take a month. But it may be easier for me because I follow a number of free webcomics across all genres. Perhaps I'll resurrect the "other webcomics" thread and post a list in the name of forum-goer sanity. |
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Post by jocobo on Apr 3, 2015 16:27:47 GMT
What is Anthony's relationship like with the Forest? I assume not so good. In Coyote and Ysengrin's introductory chapter, they found a jumper with he name A. Carver and immediately assumed it was Anthony's. They did not seem pleased with the prospect. So we know he is both known to and presumably not so well liked by Coyote.
Antimony is Coyote's appointed medium. While the Headmaster and the court very likely do have the power to refuse a medium(countries do have the power to reject ambassador's for example), I doubt they would. After all, the Headmaster didn't take that step when the issue was first raised. So either he can't or didn't want to.
With that in mind, what authority does Anthony have to revoke Annie's mediumship? None what so ever. And given the kind of disdain Coyote has for court members and humans in general, I doubt he'd agree to a petition by Anthony to have her mediumship revoked. The only thing Anthony really can do is bar Annie's access to the Forest. Keep in mind, Annie is serving in an official capacity for Coyote. She is an honorary citizen of the Forest and his medium.
Anthony cannot prevent her access to the Forest and not expect repercussions. Maybe Coyote takes his own hostage. Maybe Kat. It was pointed out not too far back that Kat was forbidden from ever going to the forest. Maybe Tom was drawing attention to it on purpose?
Also, we know long term transfers between the Forest and The Court are possible. We very recently saw one such process up close and personal. It only stands to reason to me Annie might be able to do the opposite and shift to the Forest for the long term.
I honestly think this is building up to a more permanent severance of ties between Annie and the Court. OR maybe relations between the Court and Forest are about to shift from "strained" to "hostile".
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Post by machival on Apr 3, 2015 16:29:03 GMT
I wonder if Ysengrin is looking to adopt?
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Post by speedwell on Apr 3, 2015 16:32:59 GMT
I wonder if Ysengrin is looking to adopt? That you seriously propose this as an alternative to her being Anthony's daughter is very, very telling. After all, Ysengrin physically attacked her. But he's been more of a father to her than anyone else in the cast, even more than Reynardine, who has been more like a mother than anyone else, if you ask me. |
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Post by ed1300 on Apr 3, 2015 16:42:44 GMT
[li]What is meant by the symbols on Kat's and Antimony's left shoulders [/li] The symbol on Kat's shoulder has been seen before on Court staff. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=718I would assume that Antimony's symbol is of the Forest, or more specifically Coyote. |
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Post by matoyak on Apr 3, 2015 16:49:33 GMT
And damn it, he's taking away the Friends apartment. I am all of the sads This is the only good thing to come out of this happening, IMO. (It was too on the nose). |
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Post by Sadie on Apr 3, 2015 16:53:53 GMT
I'm really getting tired of the "is he a good parent" discussion, to be honest. He's obviously not here because she hasn't behaved. There's something else going on.
What exactly is his game? Only a few chapters ago, when Annie didn't become the Court Medium, I assumed she had just skipped too many detentions and they were unhappy with her behavior. But maybe that wasn't the reason. Remember what Jones said: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1155 And what Coyote said: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1156
Both of them thought there was some kind of plot going on here. Jones knew about Annie's misbehavior and clearly did not beleive this was a valid reason to not make her the medium. And Coyote is a trickster and can probably smell a plot a mile away. They're very likely correct to wonder about the hedmaster's motivations. So what could it be the Court really want? - Keeping Annie away from the forest, for some reason? - Taking Renard away from her? Are they afraid she could turn against them? Find something they want to hide? In any case something changed since the end of year 7, when they were eager to have her trained with the other would be mediums.
Anyway... her becoming the Forest Medium was clearly not what the Court was going for. The question is where Anthony stands in the middle of all this. Is he working for them? Do they have a common goal? You bring up some really good questions here. It was interesting to re-read those pages you linked, because the entire scene of Annie becoming the Forest Medium shows her being treated as an adult and a free agent. At no point does the Headmaster say "I forbid you from doing this", even though he ought to LEGALLY have the power to do so. Wouldn't the Court be as much Annie's legal guardian at that point as Anthony is? He doesn't even tell Jones to forbid her, just to suggest that it's a bad idea, then he tries to dissuade her by removing physical support. On top of that, the Headmaster doesn't forbid Andrew from offering his support and protection as Court Medium, even though Andrew is also a student and a minor in a Court-appointed position. This isn't the first time that authority figures in Gunnerkrigg Court have been shown to be powerless in making anyone - Annie especially - do anything, but this has the Headmaster not even pretending to lay down the law. The only pressure he can put on her is social. The other thing about that scene is that it hightlights Annie's power base within the Court. If she didn't have the support of Jones, Andrew, and Reynardine (and Ysengrin), she might have caved to the Headmaster's social pressure. She's also been shown to be a powerful connecting and motivational force among her classmates, too; starting with "Residential" and growing more refined with "The Torn Sea" Now we have Papa Carver showing up to be an authority figure that Annie has been conditioned to obey, who immediately starts out isolating her from her power base. There's been a lot of speculation over how much official power Anthony actually has -- but I'm starting to think that he could have practically none and it doesn't matter, because the most important thing is the emotional power he has over Annie. |
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Post by ryrmyrbyr on Apr 3, 2015 17:04:42 GMT
"This is an inconvenience for everyone."
That's exactly what a vengeful machine goddess would say, Kat. Be careful.
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Post by CarbonRabbit on Apr 3, 2015 17:11:11 GMT
Although I still have lingering doubts as to whether Tony is actually her father...
...it would seem that they both have something in common: They both like having/being in control.
Remember how Annie walked around like she owned the place? She would pretty much do what she wanted without check or correction, and people had pointed it out to her over and over.
Then here comes Tony, who is ordering her around, and beginning to control her life (for lack of a better phrase atm). It's like, she's swinging from one extreme (freedom to do what she wanted) to the other (obeying an authority to the T).
Now, whether he has the actual authority to do any of this, I don't know, and I leave it up to minds better than mine to discuss it, as well as the upcoming pages to reveal it.
But if nothing else--and I don't know why I find it so interesting--they both have this trait in common.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 3, 2015 17:14:20 GMT
But maybe that will be the moment that Annie finally realizes that she has to stop making excuses for her father and she frees Reynardine instead of giving him to Anthony. Hijinks ensue... Why? She may well release Renard in any other (or original) body and then give the plushie to Anthony. - If Rey jumps into a non-living body (with eyes) and then Annie gives the plushie to Anthony, Anthony will know something is up when the plushie doesn't obey his commands to show himself, get into a box (or some equivalent prison), and stay there forever. Annie might be able to keep Anthony from finding the Rey's new non-living body, but Anthony would know Annie is defying him and try to rectify that situation. - Anthony is not going to let Annie go back to the forest, so she won't have an opportunity to get Rey back to his original body. - If Rey jumps into a living body, then he's killing whoever or whatever he jumps into. Given Rey's remorse for killing Daniel Schiff, I don't think Rey would jump into another living body except maybe Anthony. - And finally, I see it is likely that Rey would attack Anthony because Rey already disliked/hated Anthony due to Surma's death and that is reinforced by Anthony's past and present treatment of Annie. The hijinks comment was in jest. |
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Post by Rasselas on Apr 3, 2015 17:14:33 GMT
Couldn't she use the hours not spent on history and biology to study those subjects on the next year's level? And if scheduling makes that an impossibility, why not use the hours saved to actually perform the medium duties? Because this isn't really about schoolwork. I think this page finally clears it up that this really is about locking Annie down. This is key. That's why it's so infuriating. Funny, but my father did something similar once. He forbade an outing that was usually allowed, just because he was afraid. Completely irrational, authoritative ruling. I am still holding a grudge over it, more than a decade later. So. While Anthony has all the reasons in the world to do this - he's worried about his daughter's well-being to the point of degloving his own hand (possibly?) in order to try and save her. (I love that bit of speculation, we saw bone-fingers - clearly he couldn't reach into the elemental core without burning the tissue of his hand, so only the bones would work.) He doesn't even let her ask about it, not one to take praise or explain himself. Someone mentioned that he seems like he has Asperger's syndrome, and I concur. He has that intrinsic inability to handle emotions. The way he loves Antimony is expressed in these harsh, insanely rigid ways. He isn't trying to control her because he is a big meanie, he's doing it "for her own good" or his idea of it, anyway. While he has reasons, this will create a rift between them, one that's hard to heal. This is a setup for a monumentally dramatic outcome. (Great writing!) Another thing that comes to mind is Coyote's Tooth. Antimony can cut through anything, any bond they might place on her. I am also worried what might happen if Anthony discovered this. He might try to use it to split Annie's elemental core from her. The chapter title is "The Tree" and an apple in the picture. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree? We're yet to see how. |
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Post by todd on Apr 3, 2015 17:51:57 GMT
But more importantly, I think this goes towards someone else entirely: Katerina. The Court must surely be aware of Kat's connection to the robots by now, especially after the cruise ship incident. They probably want her to continue her work post haste and, most importantly, without any distractions to impede her work. There are, currently, three major distractions: Annie, Paz and school work. If they could remove Annie's impact on Kat, that might improve her willingness to focus on her robotics; even Kat has admitted that seeing people less - in the last two chapters, Paz - would help her focus on her robotics work. Or Kat might be so upset and angry that she can't focus on the work. (I've sometimes thought that the Seraphs were fortunate that Kat's response to the "Torn Sea" incident wasn't to smash everything in her workshop to pieces and vow never to do anything with robots again.) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 3, 2015 18:14:06 GMT
"This is an inconvenience for everyone." That's exactly what a vengeful machine goddess would say... Or a bureaucrat. [edit] He's talking about how Antimony inconvenienced the faculty, ya know, by making him force them to whip her back a year after she passed and stuff. And he probably includes himself in there. [/edit] |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 3, 2015 18:17:08 GMT
"I don't actually know my daughter but I pretend to know what's good for her" Annie might be able to keep Anthony from finding the Rey's new non-living body, but Anthony would know Annie is defying him and try to rectify that situation. Of course. But if she chose to do it this way, what Anthony can do about this? - Anthony is not going to let Annie go back to the forest, so she won't have an opportunity to get Rey back to his original body. How? Eglamore failed to stop her, and that's when she acted thoughtlessly and didn't have an official carte blanche on that. Lock her in? Even if it works, how Parley and Smitty will react? Especially given that they trust Kat and don't trust Court officials? No, if Annie wants to leave, she will - by hook or crook. - And finally, I see it is likely that Rey would attack Anthony because Rey already disliked/hated Anthony due to Surma's death and that is reinforced by Anthony's past and present treatment of Annie. Depends on how she would phrase it. [laserboners skipped] The chapter title is "The Tree" and an apple in the picture. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree? We're yet to see how. Isn't it obvious? That's the irony. The situation is anti-symmetric in what she inherited from mother: Antimony's ability to get along with people is much higher than most folk, which is why she's a Medium. Thus she isn't in a position to look down at Anthony if she won't at anyone else too. Anthony's ability to get along with people is much lower than typical human, which is why the whole class gave him dirty looks, Kat deathglared him and Annie is almost in tears. So it's up to her to get through, simply because he apparently is unable to. The situation is symmetric in what she inherited from father: Anthony have a vague ideas of "his daughter", that got numerous blank spaces filled with wishful thinking. Antimony have a vague ideas of "her father", that got numerous blank spaces filled with wishful thinking. So they both have options - try to deal with reality, leave, continue stumbling in daydreams, or be dropped along with the problem. Or Kat might be so upset and angry that she can't focus on the work. (I've sometimes thought that the Seraphs were fortunate that Kat's response to the "Torn Sea" incident wasn't to smash everything in her workshop to pieces and vow never to do anything with robots again.) Which dangles Anthony close to the position of "that turbulent surgeon". Statement: This is an inconvenience for everyone. <BLAZ> |
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Post by machival on Apr 3, 2015 18:19:05 GMT
I wonder if Ysengrin is looking to adopt? That you seriously propose this as an alternative to her being Anthony's daughter is very, very telling. After all, Ysengrin physically attacked her. But he's been more of a father to her than anyone else in the cast, even more than Reynardine, who has been more like a mother than anyone else, if you ask me. Case in point: "Beautiful! You Looked Beautiful!"When's the last time Antimony heard fatherly praise like that from Anthony? Probably never. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 3, 2015 18:28:19 GMT
That you seriously propose this as an alternative to her being Anthony's daughter is very, very telling. After all, Ysengrin physically attacked her. But he's been more of a father to her than anyone else in the cast, even more than Reynardine, who has been more like a mother than anyone else, if you ask me. Case in point: "Beautiful! You Looked Beautiful!"When's the last time Antimony heard fatherly praise like that from Anthony? Probably never. I was just thinking the other day that the pr0n industry would probably collapse if not for fathers like Tony. |
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Post by nero on Apr 3, 2015 19:16:02 GMT
Either Jones or someone from the Court can help out Annie, or at least Coyote when he drops in to visit, could prevent her from losing her medium position.
Even back then, her first time at the cherry tree, Annie felt it was possible Anthony had abandoned her. Unless he cares for her, he should never contact Annie.
I still think this could be a future vision, or a type of dream that tackles all of Annie's weaknesses.
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Post by rafk on Apr 3, 2015 19:36:13 GMT
Tony can't actually forbid her from being a fire elemental with etheric powers, which is basically what he wants to do.
He also can't forbid the forest and ether from existing, even though he certainly wants to do that too.
He seems pretty incapable of accepting anything outside his narrow world view though, so I think this will be a painful lesson for him as it already has been before.
Also he is rapidly eroding his power over Annie here. She will fight back once pushed too far. This may be it, but more likely it will be the next step - no Rey and/or no Kat.
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Post by aline on Apr 3, 2015 19:38:11 GMT
I still think this could be a future vision, or a type of dream that tackles all of Annie's weaknesses. I would be quite disappointed if it ended up being something like that. It would be a very anticlimatic and cheap resolution for this situation. It'll be a lot more interesting to see Annie oppose her father. So far she's been completely unimpressed by anyone she's met. She slapped Coyote, hugged Ysengrin, sent Renard to the naughty zone, scowled at the Guides, opposed the Donlans and Eglamore on the matter or Renard's ownership... she's been composed and firm in almost every situation. Just not with her father. But he had the advantage of surprise. In the story, barely an hour passed since he's been standing in front of her, and he's used every trick in the book to make her loose her footing. She will find some way to fight back eventually. And it will be a big step towards independance and adulthood.
Everyone has got to do that as a teenager, break down the big parenting statues in their mind and move on to become an adult.
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