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Post by edzepp on Feb 22, 2008 6:01:15 GMT
Yipe.Jones sure knows a lot about Anthony. I don't think the eventual father/daughter reunion is going to be a happy one. What did Surma even see in Anthony anyway?
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Post by mudmaniac on Feb 22, 2008 6:11:21 GMT
Jones does seem to know a lot about Anthony. One wonders the history of that.
Is that a roof or a courtyard? It got a roofy feel.
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Post by edzepp on Feb 22, 2008 6:17:08 GMT
So, wait. Surma was the last member of the Court allowed to enter Gillitie Wood. Could that be the origin of her interactions/relationship with Reynardine? That is looking like an interesting possibility right now.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 22, 2008 6:27:43 GMT
Maybe the Court keeps records on its students. Or maybe Jones met Anthony back when Surma worked for the Court. Back on Monday's page, they were on the second floor -- see the last panel. (Unless 2F was just a room number?) So them being on a roof is plausible. And damn, Jones, that is cold.
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Post by popo on Feb 22, 2008 6:28:05 GMT
Well, I guess we know where Annie gets her (slight) lack of emotion.
Maybe it's a courtyard on a roof.
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Post by philweasel on Feb 22, 2008 6:57:37 GMT
Wow, Jones is almost out awsoming Coyote here. I wouldn't take her words about Anthony entirely at face value, she did just admit to openly tweaking Annie's nose.
I wonder if Surma/Anthony was a relationship somewhat like a reversed form of Kat/Annie. I can imagine there are more than a few people who comment that "Kat's really nice, but that Annie girl she hangs around with? Cold as ice dude!"
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Post by Tenjen on Feb 22, 2008 9:16:28 GMT
I have a feeling she's just as honest as coyote. But has truths she wont reveal as well.
Annie comes from 2 different scopes then. One of the supernatural and the other of science [from what we've seen, superscience]
And Tom, Your art skills are really coming out here. I love your facial expressions. Panel 1's "Explaining" expression. Annie's seeming uplifted spirits at learning more about her mothers life. Panel 3's look of distaste [not the right word but as close as i could get after a late night]. The side shot is beautiful and Annies look of somewhat bewildered annoyance, which is just Annie controlling her anger as Jones spouts out one comment after another about her dad.
WHich she knows she must be sensitive about.
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Post by Ultimatum479 on Feb 22, 2008 9:58:06 GMT
edzepp: I doubt Anthony was that way from the beginning or, if so, either he was good at hiding it or Surma had powerful ulterior motives for her choice.
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Post by monkeybucks on Feb 22, 2008 10:29:11 GMT
I'm actually wondering if Surma going into the Gillitie Wood has something to do with her illness?
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Post by todd on Feb 22, 2008 11:45:01 GMT
So Surma was the school's last medium. Since she obviously wasn't able to fulfill that function after she became bedridden (Chapter Sixteen made that all the clearer) and since she became bedridden after giving birth to Annie, twelve years ago, Gunnerkrigg's been without a medium for a long time.
And Surma was also the last person from the Court allowed into Gillitie Wood. I wonder whether that means "allowed by the school" or "allowed by Gillitie's residents". Though that would certainly fit with Coyote knowing so much about her (including that she and Eglamore were a couple at one point - though he must not have found out about her winding up with Anthony - or maybe he knew but pretended not to in order to have a bit of fun with Eglamore, being the trickster that he is).
Jones apparently believes that Anthony's to blame for his disappearance, while Annie blamed it on herself. I think Jones might be closer to the truth, especially since Eglamore mentioned (back in Chapter Seven) Anthony's old habit of disappearing for long periods of time. Maybe he *did* return to that old habit, out of wanderlust or something else, and it isn't Annie's fault after all (though we still don't know for certain yet).
Side-note: Annie (while always pretty) seems especially glamorous in the second panel.
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Post by Yin on Feb 22, 2008 11:51:40 GMT
Maybe Jones's relationship with Anthony was similar to Eglamore's with Surma.
Also- psst, Tom, abandoning takes one n, not two.
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Post by todd on Feb 22, 2008 12:53:35 GMT
Maybe Jones's relationship with Anthony was similar to Eglamore's with Surma. I almost wish you hadn't said that; that remark could encourage fresh speculations that Jones is the mystery girl from the photograph (in spite of everything Tom said to the contrary), since she was standing with Anthony in it.
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Post by Boksha on Feb 22, 2008 13:29:54 GMT
I don't think Jones necessarily knows anything about Anthony. All she's saying is Anthony disappeared, abandoning Annie. The whole devoid of emotion thing she could've made up or gotten from hearsay; chances are Jones was a student at GC as well at some point and she looks to be about the same age as Surma (and thus, Anthony) so she may even have known him personally as a classmate perhaps. That could also mean she just got a wrong impression of Anthony; he may have appeared cold, but that doesn't say much about what he truly thinks. Or she may really be making it all up just to get Annie angry, like she's saying. She seems quite cold herself.
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Post by cenit on Feb 22, 2008 13:50:18 GMT
Well, several things to comment. I'm not sure if Jones believes that what she said it's true, her intention here is to try to get Annie to lose her center... bringing up powerfull emotions. After all, can't be medium if you start crying/yelling/whatever at any time. She's being cold, because, like she said, she needs to evaluate Annie. One thing here is that we don't know how close was the relationship bewteen Annie and Anthony, the only two things that we know are that 1. She called him right away after her accident (so she seems to be in good terms with him) 2. She was hoping, alas, confident that he would pick her up after school. 3. She called him dad as a little girl (from the incident with Muut) So, it looks like she has at least a "polite" relationship with her father; also Anja told Annie that Anthony had made arrangements for Annie to have anything she needed while she was in the Court, so he didn't just left her at GC like that. And it would be a while until we see Anthony, cause he would likely not be showing his face until Annie finish year 3 www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=294
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Post by Neon on Feb 22, 2008 14:58:29 GMT
I love Jones.
Wait, if Surma's the last medium of Gunnerkrigg, what's the deal with Parley and Smith?
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Post by aijuan on Feb 22, 2008 15:10:35 GMT
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Post by Midnight Meadows on Feb 22, 2008 16:14:27 GMT
Wow Jones...just....wow.... talk about lack of manners.
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Post by Tenjen on Feb 22, 2008 18:36:48 GMT
manners has nothing to do with it. Infact she was quite hospitable. nothing really rude there. Just a test of Annies charector. The teacher must know the student.
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Post by dragonmage06 on Feb 22, 2008 18:51:20 GMT
Whoa, Jones is hardcore. Although, I don't think she can criticize someone else about being devoid of emotion with that little speech she just gave there. Seems like a heartless way to judge someone's character to me.
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Post by nikita on Feb 23, 2008 0:07:08 GMT
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Post by fr4tbrn on Feb 23, 2008 4:19:30 GMT
Maybe Jones's relationship with Anthony was similar to Eglamore's with Surma. Also- psst, Tom, abandoning takes one n, not two. Darnit, you beat me to it. I wouldn't be surprised, though. Jones hasn't had a wide variety of emotions displayed yet. They could've been cold 'n happy together... I guess. Even though she doesn't seem cold, she's more.... level-headed. Though, Eglamore and Surma may have been more like brother-and-sister than young lovers. That may explain a bit of why Surma ended up with Anthony instead of Eglamore.
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Post by alya1989262 on Feb 23, 2008 11:11:58 GMT
Frankly, Eglamore seems to be still in love with her... Especially when he looks at that knife.
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Post by todd on Feb 23, 2008 11:41:17 GMT
And Coyote's initial assumption that Eglamore was Annie's father would argue for Eglamore and Surma having been a couple once.
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Post by cenit on Feb 23, 2008 15:54:37 GMT
Maybe Jones's relationship with Anthony was similar to Eglamore's with Surma. Also- psst, Tom, abandoning takes one n, not two. Darnit, you beat me to it. I wouldn't be surprised, though. Jones hasn't had a wide variety of emotions displayed yet. They could've been cold 'n happy together... I guess. Even though she doesn't seem cold, she's more.... level-headed. Though, Eglamore and Surma may have been more like brother-and-sister than young lovers. That may explain a bit of why Surma ended up with Anthony instead of Eglamore. why am I thinking of penguin love???
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Post by fr4tbrn on Feb 23, 2008 19:55:31 GMT
From what we've seen of her, Surma just doesn't seem to be the type of person to break someone's heart (intentionally). So maybe Eglamore loved her... but Surma didn't love him back in the same way.
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Post by Goatmon on Feb 24, 2008 8:13:06 GMT
So, wait. Surma was the last member of the Court to enter Gillitie Wood. Last person allowed in. You always want to pay attention to how sentences are worded. Always.
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Post by edzepp on Feb 24, 2008 12:16:55 GMT
I fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out. I just phrased it somewhat badly. That's what I should've said.
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Post by rallan on Feb 25, 2008 5:35:05 GMT
Wow Jones...just....wow.... talk about lack of manners. It's just turn and turn about. Annie opened up by dropping Coyote's advice on not trusting anyone in the Court as an accusation just to see what Jones would make of it. Annie and Jones are sparring to try and take each others' measure. And I get the feeling that in Jones's case it may well be intended as a compliment, since instead of sugarcoating or denying the facts she's decided that Annie's tough enough to test out.
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Post by Count Casimir on Feb 25, 2008 5:41:48 GMT
Mkay, with today's page, Jones is definitely in my top 5.
And I'm getting that tingle that's associated with the beautiful murmur of ANSWERS!
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Post by Goatmon on Feb 25, 2008 5:50:27 GMT
It's not a surprise to see her being a bit rude to Annie. I imagine part of becoming a medium is having your patience and the limits of your emotional duress put to the test.
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