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Post by cenit on Feb 13, 2008 15:00:26 GMT
;D
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Post by AluK on Feb 13, 2008 15:05:56 GMT
Quite a few times. I'd help my friends with maths, physics, chemistry and whatnot and they'd help me with history and geography.
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Post by ultrabluesky on Feb 13, 2008 15:31:17 GMT
Case in point.
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Post by cenit on Feb 13, 2008 19:46:28 GMT
I forgot, if you're still at school please feel free to answer the question too. We're not going to tell, promise
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Post by Tenjen on Feb 13, 2008 19:49:40 GMT
Ive cheated both in school and college. But more out of nervousness and doubt in my abilties rather than under handedness, lack of effort to study and lack of know how.
and the occurances have been far and few between. As for allowing others to cheat off me. a total of 3 times in school.
Not that iam pure. My evils lie elsewhere ~_~
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Post by aijuan on Feb 13, 2008 20:01:42 GMT
Have't cheated, but I don't really do any homework.
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Post by popo on Feb 13, 2008 20:48:38 GMT
I cheated on 1 French test in highschool. But I was doing so poorly that it didn't help much anyways. I was never good with the Romance languages.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 13, 2008 22:14:23 GMT
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Post by neal on Feb 13, 2008 23:34:35 GMT
Yeah, I have. Well, not on a test. I've glanced at another kid's paper to see if he had the same answer, but not copied it. I cheated on homework all the time, though. Man, I don't wanna do 26 factor labeling problems! That is tedious, and I have that down!
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Post by Vratislav on Feb 14, 2008 0:08:03 GMT
Sometimes, you have to decide either to cheat or to waste piles of time. It was my case - once, I used program from previous years' student as my seminary work. Nevertheless, it's very personal: Everybody must decide WHEN the time used to studying something not very understandable is already wasting of the time... Such knowledge may be useful - but the probability level can be very low... Leave it on Kat ... ;-)
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Post by Ultimatum479 on Feb 14, 2008 1:23:49 GMT
I never cheat because I never do any of the work.
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Post by spritznar on Feb 14, 2008 1:51:17 GMT
if comparing answers counts then yes i've cheated. but i've never copied directly (i usually opted to just not do the work).
the distinction i draw between those is that asking someone questions will, hopefully, help you learn whereas copying is just getting the work done for the sake of getting it done. the point of schoolwork is to learn the material, not just to get it done.
not that i care if other people cheat, it just seems counterproductive to me; i prefer to do things right or not at all.
also lying grates against the grain of my personality so i avoid all forms of it (my being a terrible liar helps)
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Post by cenit on Feb 14, 2008 4:22:56 GMT
the distinction i draw between those is that asking someone questions will, hopefully, help you learn whereas copying is just getting the work done for the sake of getting it done. the point of schoolwork is to learn the material, not just to get it done. not that i care if other people cheat, it just seems counterproductive to me; i prefer to do things right or not at all. I won't deny that you have a point, but most of schooling systems works on a basis that (don't know why) all kids should be profiecient in very different fields, with little regard of their natural abilities and interest. For example, I suck at drawing (specially technical drawing, like 3D figures and such), and I don't think I could have ever passed that class if it wasn't because a kid did that work for me (I did his english work). Should I have failed school because I can't draw or don't have the interest to to learn how to do it properly? I think not. If it were a matter of just not taking that "·$$% class, I wouldn't have done it ;D Uhmm, and at college I checked the answer with a close friend
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Post by Midnight Meadows on Feb 14, 2008 5:11:22 GMT
Back in elementary school, I did once or twice. I'm sure everyone does.
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Post by Tenjen on Feb 14, 2008 6:15:23 GMT
School is basicly teaching you all the basics in everything. In the later classes you can specialise [according to the system] which is preperation for your life and studies in college. WHere you specialise more and more.
Ofcourse i havent let myself turn into a single function Cog. Iam a fellow of many talents in many fields. one of the reasons i Chose HR is because of the many things i'll be able to do and functions entail.
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Post by spritznar on Feb 14, 2008 6:20:45 GMT
I won't deny that you have a point, but most of schooling systems works on a basis that (don't know why) all kids should be profiecient in very different fields, with little regard of their natural abilities and interest. For example, I suck at drawing (specially technical drawing, like 3D figures and such), and I don't think I could have ever passed that class if it wasn't because a kid did that work for me (I did his english work). Should I have failed school because I can't draw or don't have the interest to to learn how to do it properly? I think not. If it were a matter of just not taking that "·$$% class, I wouldn't have done it ;D i can definitely agree with that point. the college i was going to required this chemistry class; i failed it twice. i can't learn chem to save my life (oddly enough i passed the chem lab with no trouble )
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Post by Tenjen on Feb 14, 2008 6:41:48 GMT
I despise learning systems with limited scope that marginalize the full potential of people
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Post by spritznar on Feb 15, 2008 4:26:41 GMT
well, anytime you have a regimented system someone's going to get the short end of the stick. we've turned our education system into an assembly line. i really wish alternative schools were more widely available and used.
that said, my chemistry issues were my own fault; i chose to go to a college whose difficulty level was higher than my motivation level. none of my comments were intended to malign my former school
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Post by cenit on Feb 15, 2008 13:41:08 GMT
well, anytime you have a regimented system someone's going to get the short end of the stick. we've turned our education system into an assembly line. i really wish alternative schools were more widely available and used. "Another brick in the wall" ?
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Post by Magicookie on Feb 16, 2008 8:06:08 GMT
I've never cheated on anything. Though I let people cheat off me on homework and such, I know it will screw them over later when they're taking the test on that material. ._.
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Post by Reynard on Feb 17, 2008 4:29:01 GMT
Nope, I never cheated in school. Not because I didn't think about it or wasn't tempted to (I did and was...a *LOT!*); but I was always afraid that, ultimately, the consequences of getting caught cheating would be more severe than those of getting a bad grade. (Unfortunately I have no real idea if my decision not to cheat has ever helped me or not in the Real World -- but at least I'll die with a clear conscience where that particular subject is concerned...)
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Post by Allyson on Feb 17, 2008 5:39:38 GMT
Well, gosh, I mean...not until 10th grade. I honestly made it that far without getting someone else's work/letting someone else copy mine. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's usually somebody asking me for answers and me being too dang nice to refuse, or me glancing at someone else's paper like "oh no I don't know if I did this right what did they get ?" I've never, like, completely cheated on anything. Just sort of tried to calm myself down when I got nervous about possibly doing things wrong, ha.
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