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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 17, 2007 6:20:19 GMT
Her face...Clearly something important is about to happen.
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Post by popo on Dec 17, 2007 6:25:31 GMT
Yeah, the face was the first thing I noticed, she looks much different than she was at 12-13.
So anyone have any idea who the two Guides are? Closest thing I could find was maybe Belatu-Cadros for the dog, but then I found a picture of what he was supposed to look like, and it doesn't fit.
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Post by Goatmon on Dec 17, 2007 8:27:35 GMT
Woo, Surma grown-up! She's quite the pretty lady, clearly whatever's landed her in the hospital has done little to her looks.
As for the two spirits, I got no idea who the left one is. The right one looks like a shadow-man on steroids.
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Post by myself on Dec 17, 2007 9:20:43 GMT
Whoah. I'm on my way to bed here shortly, and while it's rare for me to (have or remember) nightmares, if I do, I bet they'll be about the one on the right. Creepy, creepy lookin' sucker!
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Post by mudmaniac on Dec 17, 2007 9:27:27 GMT
From the looks of things, they are about to reign in an errant spirit. Likely one that has overstayed its welcome. Thats under the jurisdiction of psychopomps is it not? but could be wrong, since there are departed spirits roaming around (mort for instance) and it does not look like muut does anything about the guy. ps. Tom, your guest art for Starslip Crisis? Funny. www.starslipcrisis.com/images/fanart/siddell_starslip.jpg |
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Post by todd on Dec 17, 2007 11:51:53 GMT
This is the first time (apart from her photograph in Chapter Seven) that we've actually seen Surma's face.
I'm mildly curious about whether the two Guides here are "real" mythical figures like Muut, or inventions of Tom (as I assume Ketrak was). But I'm more immediately curious about what they want Annie to help them with. At least we'll get some idea of the latter in the next two instalments this week.
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Post by cenit on Dec 17, 2007 13:21:21 GMT
Surma looks very pretty, doesn't look like she's sick at all. The plot tickens...can't wait to see the rest. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the first pannel goes straight to the bottom, right? Took me a minute to figure it out  |
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Post by corlis on Dec 17, 2007 17:58:26 GMT
Does Surma's comment about being useless to them now mean that she wasn't a medium in the latter years of her life?
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Post by La Goon on Dec 17, 2007 18:23:26 GMT
Does Surma's comment about being useless to them now mean that she wasn't a medium in the latter years of her life? Perhaps - but it's not even clear what she was useful for.  Am I the only one who for some reason thinks that Surma looks kind of action heroine-ish? |
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Post by chocloman on Dec 17, 2007 18:32:50 GMT
I think the thing with the red eyes is that Jackal dude.
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Post by cenit on Dec 17, 2007 22:48:34 GMT
Jackal is not a guide, is a god.
I don't think she couldn't be a medium (she can see the guides, right); but maybe she is no condition to travel or something like that
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 17, 2007 22:50:56 GMT
Surma looks very pretty, doesn't look like she's sick at all. Well, she still has four or five years ahead of her at this point. Maybe her disease is in remission. Or maybe it's supernatural and it won't physically affect her until its final stages. Who knows. Yesterday's comic specified that this happened "Shortly after meeting Muut". On page 157, Annie said she didn't figure out that the patients were dying "For the longest time". I'm getting the impression that, whatever it was that came between Annie and the Guides, it didn't happen this night. |
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Post by benpaulintx on Dec 17, 2007 23:50:13 GMT
The hooded one looks like a Jawa to me  Fuzzy there is obviously one of the regional Black Dog spirits from British folklore. I don't think he's identifiable by appearance alone, but if someone with expertise in the matter recognizes his dialect, we might could narrow it down. |
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Post by Count Casimir on Dec 18, 2007 2:45:46 GMT
The hooded one looks like a Jawa to me They're trying to catch C-3PO, and Surma doesn't want Annie to have to see them disassemble him. Surma's pretty! |
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Post by mudmaniac on Dec 18, 2007 3:35:39 GMT
Jackal is not a guide, is a god. I don't think she couldn't be a medium (she can see the guides, right); but maybe she is no condition to travel or something like that Anubis, the jackal headed god of egyptian mythology. Via wikipedia: Anubis was the guardian of the dead who took souls to the Underworld and protected them on their journey. It was he who deemed the deceased worthy of continuing into the underworld. But thats a tangent. and i dont think that looks like Jackal anyways. |
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Post by Goatmon on Dec 18, 2007 9:09:06 GMT
Does Surma's comment about being useless to them now mean that she wasn't a medium in the latter years of her life? I'd say no since being a medium means talking to spirits, which doesn't seem to be a problem for her. If I were to guess, I'd say she said/did something, or got involved in a scandal of some sort, and her reputation with the School and/or Giltie Wood has been tarnished thus removing her usefulness. |
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Post by todd on Dec 18, 2007 11:54:36 GMT
Maybe she's referring to her illness; she was confined to the hospital after giving birth to Annie, and from what we can tell in the flashbacks, was apparently unable to get around much.
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Post by corlis on Dec 18, 2007 14:22:11 GMT
I don't think being able to see the guides means that she's still a medium, because in the "Goobye Ketrak" thread Tom mentioned that the guides could make themselves visible to normal people if they wanted to.
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Post by King Mir on Dec 18, 2007 19:31:53 GMT
It struck me as weird for a hospital to have a stairs around the bed like Surma's appears to have. It would make it hard to move a patient to and from it in an emergency, or roll monitoring equipment over.
Artistic license I guess.
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Post by cenit on Dec 18, 2007 19:36:53 GMT
Surma looks very pretty, doesn't look like she's sick at all. Well, she still has four or five years ahead of her at this point. Maybe her disease is in remission. Or maybe it's supernatural and it won't physically affect her until its final stages. Who knows. Yesterday's comic specified that this happened "Shortly after meeting Muut". On page 157, Annie said she didn't figure out that the patients were dying "For the longest time". I'm getting the impression that, whatever it was that came between Annie and the Guides, it didn't happen this night. I'm pretty sure that Annie is mad at them for taking her mom away; I'm sure she knows it's their job and it was her mom time anyway...but really, would you be all friendly like with the people who reaped (spelled right?) your mom? Ketkrak is out of the anger-thing beacause he/she/it deals only with insects |
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Post by benpaulintx on Dec 19, 2007 0:03:37 GMT
I interpret this to mean that Annie sees the guides by default, unless (possibly) they decide hide themselves. I would think this is the definition of a medium (or a potential medium. Perhaps the title comes after training. See 273, where Ysengrin does not recognize Parley & Smit as mediums.) Thus, at the time in question, Surma still possessed the same power of sight as Annie, which we postulate is what makes a person a medium. Surma saw the guides at her bedside because she was a medium. The guides said the matter "would be settled right quick" if Surma came, because Surma was a medium. Surma may have had some OTHER power (like Mrs. Donlan's magic) that was currently in remission, but since the guides don't expect anything from Annie except her presence, I imagine that the same would be required of Surma. Thus, the only thing that would make Surma "of no use" to them would be her physical inability to go to the place they need her to go to. Easy to explain, because of course she is bedridden. I can't see why it should be more complicated than that. |
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