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Post by hypixion on Dec 12, 2014 23:03:25 GMT
guys, about the boat:
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Post by wingedfoe on Dec 12, 2014 23:13:17 GMT
Yay  Of course, Kat knows this being the Creator. I wonder if Paz and Annie and the others know that Ship isn't dead. *Steals avatar* |
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Post by keef on Dec 12, 2014 23:26:10 GMT
Actually, I'm of the opinion that, until otherwise informed, the Ship's mind was not in that whale-beast. Agreed, still a strong possibility. On the other hand we assume that for the Goddess/Psychopomp/Cyberangel to manifest there has to be one fatality, someone had to die. Of course always a problem with digital life and death; there can be backups. And so it goes. From smitten to smited in 63 pages. And ninja'd by Tom himself. |
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Post by todd on Dec 12, 2014 23:26:42 GMT
Anyway, we'd essentially come to the conclusion that, although many of us do have sympathy for the ship, he did something rash, dangerous, and self-serving that really does place him as a villain, albeit a sympathetic one. The phrase I used, I think, was "good ends, bad means". I don't think even the ends were good, given that he was pursuing a happily married woman (and he wouldn't even listen to Paz when she pointed that out). Had the ship come to the realization at the end, "I never loved her, I but lusted for her", I might have felt more sympathy for it. Of course, it might have helped if Tom had maybe shown the Ship, when it realizes how the plan's falling apart and they're returning to the regular world, being ready to exact its wrath upon all the students on board - or against Lindsey when she showed up, for that matter, as a case of false love easily degenerating into hate. And the characters having an uneasy silence as they realized that their actions had brought about the ship's death would have made it a lot harder to do this page with Annie shown as the only one not paired off. (Though I don't find that upsetting, since I've never felt that she needed a love interest - I liked the idea of her being indifferent to romance even before we found out about her family's life cycle. Of course, "Annie in the Forest" disposed of her being entirely that way, but I still prefer her remaining single throughout the story, all the way to its end.) |
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Post by calpal on Dec 12, 2014 23:29:22 GMT
Any bets on the appearance of the End of Chapter sign in immediate future? It looks like we're wrapping up this chapter. I bet we're gonna see the Seraphs one last time in some ominous scene before the end. Whether they come to some twisted logical conclusion, or whether the other robots hunt them down and tear them apart, I cannot say. |
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Post by calpal on Dec 12, 2014 23:37:57 GMT
Call it now : Paz is doing like there's nothing wrong for now, but she will go see Annie to tell her what she (thinks she) have seen about Kat, because she's concerned. If Paz could see Kat's Zimmified form, then I'm inclined to think that Annie and Reynard will see it without Paz bringing the issue up. Reynard at the least will probably have something to say before the end of this chapter, I bet. EDIT: whoops, didn't realize I double-posted. My bad. |
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Post by warrl on Dec 13, 2014 1:07:12 GMT
Any bets on the appearance of the End of Chapter sign in immediate future? It looks like we're wrapping up this chapter. I bet we're gonna see the Seraphs one last time in some ominous scene before the end. Whether they come to some twisted logical conclusion, or whether the other robots hunt them down and tear them apart, I cannot say. Well, we know things aren't really over... I can tell by what's in the bottom right corner of the last panel. Nothing in particular. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 13, 2014 1:32:48 GMT
Where is Jackalope? I was sure (s)he (she was female, but as a human she will become a male) was introduced as a potential love interest for Annie? Introduced as what?.. ...I blame the toxic smoke. Have we seen any of the foley students on the cruise? Seeing how Seraphs didn't surrenderon their own, begging to save what little remained of their sanity, probably no.  |
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Post by francis on Dec 13, 2014 1:45:00 GMT
Oh thank goodness. I suppose I'm quite the sucker for those only trying to do what they think is right, even when it's dead wrong :/ (Thanks for linking that) In the end, I'm glad he gets to live on and learn from his mistakes. I do like how he's shown to be one of the first robots with strong emotions (Robot and the King aside), and hope his character gets a chance at redemption and growth, somehow. (And sorry if I stirred up any uneasy memories, I just wanted to get my concern out there >_<) |
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Post by htown on Dec 13, 2014 3:33:37 GMT
I'm getting a vibe from annie in these pannels... only one word can describe that vibe.  Terrible. |
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Post by mordekai on Dec 13, 2014 3:43:08 GMT
Where is Jackalope? I was sure (s)he (she was female, but as a human she will become a male) was introduced as a potential love interest for Annie? Introduced as what?.. ...I blame the toxic smoke. The Jackalope will be a boy who will study at the Court and will have a lot in common with Annie, being a creature with a foot in each world like her, and taking into account what the fairy said about him/her, it seems to me that (s)he won't be as shallow and birdbrained as other Foley students. That seems very shippable to me. |
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Post by arf on Dec 13, 2014 8:40:15 GMT
Introduced as what?.. ...I blame the toxic smoke. The Jackalope will be a boy who will study at the Court and will have a lot in common with Annie, being a creature with a foot in each world like her, and taking into account what the fairy said about him/her, it seems to me that (s)he won't be as shallow and birdbrained as other Foley students. That seems very shippable to me. Jackalope won't return until next year/volume, at least. Even then, there will be a 3 year gap between he and Annie. Not impossible, but not likely, at that age. |
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Post by Elysium on Dec 13, 2014 11:14:22 GMT
Oh thank goodness. I suppose I'm quite the sucker for those only trying to do what they think is right, even when it's dead wrong :/ (Thanks for linking that) In the end, I'm glad he gets to live on and learn from his mistakes. I do like how he's shown to be one of the first robots with strong emotions (Robot and the King aside), and hope his character gets a chance at redemption and growth, somehow. (And sorry if I stirred up any uneasy memories, I just wanted to get my concern out there >_<) I would've been happy if the ship had met its end, his actions are absolutely unforgivable. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 13, 2014 15:36:03 GMT
Of course, Kat knows this being the Creator. I wonder if Paz and Annie and the others know that Ship isn't dead. Of curse they know it's not dead anymore. It sprouted tentacles. Speaking of which? I wonder what the other students think about this change in decorations. Specifically in context of... well... tentacles - quoth Antihero for Hire, "I've been on the internet long enough to know it's bad news."  |
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 13, 2014 17:19:59 GMT
The Jackalope will be a boy who will study at the Court and will have a lot in common with Annie, being a creature with a foot in each world like her, and taking into account what the fairy said about him/her, it seems to me that (s)he won't be as shallow and birdbrained as other Foley students. That seems very shippable to me. Jackalope won't return until next year/volume, at least. Even then, there will be a 3 year gap between he and Annie. Not impossible, but not likely, at that age. How do you come to those conclusions? Is there WoT floating around about Jackalope? And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. We can't have our protagonist being happy and unpaired! |
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Post by todd on Dec 13, 2014 23:14:02 GMT
And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. We can't have our protagonist being happy and unpaired! I like the idea of Annie without any romantic entanglements, myself, and still don't think she needs a love interest. |
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 14, 2014 0:05:11 GMT
And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. We can't have our protagonist being happy and unpaired! I like the idea of Annie without any romantic entanglements, myself, and still don't think she needs a love interest. I'm fine either way, honestly  I'm just a bit sick of people trying to find anyone to ship her with.  We all know there's one backup choice available. |
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Post by The Anarch on Dec 14, 2014 5:11:10 GMT
And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. Annie/Stationary Object OTP |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 14, 2014 15:01:58 GMT
And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. Annie/Stationary Object OTP Annie x Cherry Tree ! And... - How long is that Cherry Tree going to stay in that containment facility / when is the Court going to trust that all the Tree's connections to the forest are broken (Robot's arm seems to have cleared isolation pretty quickly)? - What were those connections to the forest and what heinous acts were the tree involved with, so heinous that the Court still doesn't trust it? - How can something that the Court fears this much produce such wonderfully tasting cherries? Is the Tree producing cherries as the only way it can apologize and make amends for its past? Did the Cherry Tree fell hopelessly in love (and with whom) in the past and now weeps tears of sweet sweet cherries? - Cherry Tree side comic? |
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Post by warrl on Dec 14, 2014 16:03:59 GMT
And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. Annie/Stationary Object OTP Stationary, but not immovable? Annie does seem to be an irresistible force... - Cherry Tree side comic? |
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Post by machival on Dec 14, 2014 16:44:33 GMT
Annie/Stationary Object OTP Annie x Cherry Tree ! And... - How long is that Cherry Tree going to stay in that containment facility / when is the Court going to trust that all the Tree's connections to the forest are broken (Robot's arm seems to have cleared isolation pretty quickly)? - What were those connections to the forest and what heinous acts were the tree involved with, so heinous that the Court still doesn't trust it? - How can something that the Court fears this much produce such wonderfully tasting cherries? Is the Tree producing cherries as the only way it can apologize and make amends for its past? Did the Cherry Tree fell hopelessly in love (and with whom) in the past and now weeps tears of sweet sweet cherries? - Cherry Tree side comic? Clearly Annie x Seed Bismuth is the one ship to rule them all. |
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Post by keef on Dec 14, 2014 20:15:18 GMT
And I swear, people will ship Annie with anything that moves. Annie/Stationary Object OTP Suddenly my life is so much richer. All those new opportunities... |
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Post by todd on Dec 14, 2014 23:20:35 GMT
I can't help thinking that a girl who looks like Annie being the wallflower - that's definitely something we don't see too often.
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Post by noone3 on Dec 15, 2014 10:06:46 GMT
Great face on her though. Very much like Finn from Adventure Time. Wonder if she's all gummed up inside right now... |
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Post by Per on Dec 15, 2014 11:57:48 GMT
But when one tries to coerce a Goddess, one may be smited. She didn't (sorta) smite him until he was already down. Had the ship come to the realization at the end, "I never loved her, I but lusted for her", I might have felt more sympathy for it. I think if the ship's expressed sentiments don't meet any common definition of "love" then it could hardly be "lust" either. |
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 15, 2014 13:44:11 GMT
Had the ship come to the realization at the end, "I never loved her, I but lusted for her", I might have felt more sympathy for it. I think if the ship's expressed sentiments don't meet any common definition of "love" then it could hardly be "lust" either. For reference: www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1874 |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 15, 2014 23:03:50 GMT
But when one tries to coerce a Goddess, one may be smited. She didn't (sorta) smite him until he was already down. Isn't that the best time to smite someone? If you're going to smite, then smite to win! Smite early, smite often, and smite dirty; or don't smite at all. |
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Post by Ophel on Dec 19, 2014 13:07:04 GMT
Anyone feel like we've crossed the 20% mark? Feels more like 10%. This seems like about a tenth of a good GKC chapter. I meant 20% mark dor the story overall. Like Disc 1 of 4 just finished. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 19, 2014 14:14:28 GMT
Feels more like 10%. This seems like about a tenth of a good GKC chapter. I meant 20% mark dor the story overall. Like Disc 1 of 4 just finished. The students have finished their ninth year. So they have year ten, year eleven, and sixth form to go. Seems like the 50% point. Are you guys being sarcastic and I'm not geting it, again? |
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Post by matoyak on Dec 19, 2014 22:08:19 GMT
I meant 20% mark dor the story overall. Like Disc 1 of 4 just finished. The students have finished their ninth year. So they have year ten, year eleven, and sixth form to go. Seems like the 50% point. Are you guys being sarcastic and I'm not geting it, again? Feels like Chancellor was being sarcastic, but ophel was being serious. I think Chancellor was commenting on the length of the chapter, and ophel was talking about the overall progression of the plot and story beats of Gunnerkrigg Court as a whole. (Just because there are only 3 years of school to go doesn't mean those 3 years aren't going to be packed with way more plot than the first 50% of their schooling. [granted, I don't know what "sixth form" is... I'm assuming it's the equivalent of 12th grade {here grades 1-12 are pre-college schooling, with 9-12 being high school, and a grade lasts from August to June as one school year} for where I went to school]). |
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I'm just a bit sick of people trying to find anyone to ship her with.
