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Post by zbeeblebrox on Dec 12, 2014 10:32:26 GMT
So...now I'm sitting here, alone, uh, talking to myself. ...And that's chaos theory. |
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Post by hypixion on Dec 12, 2014 10:42:48 GMT
And now Renard will come to rescue Annie from loneliness  |
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Post by todd on Dec 12, 2014 11:48:29 GMT
(Said this in the comment box, only to realize that the comments don't save between pages) I'm very uncomfortable with this resolution (at least, what I've seen of it so far). It's true, Boat was doing some pretty heinous acts, but as far as I can tell he never intended to hurt anyone - All he wanted was to find love in the only way he believed he could. And now he's dead. And the protagonists are celebrating. Was there something I missed? Some justification for declaring him a complete villain that I didn't see? Because right now I'm really reluctant to go on watching everyone act like they did no wrong. It's pretty clear that the way the boat was going about finding "love" was going to result in the deaths and or serious emotional trauma of at least some students, and the definition of "love" you're talking about is pretty tenuous. A better description is self-centeredness masquerading as love. Attempted murder, as an incidental to trying to get what you want (without considering anyone besides yourself) puts a person pretty squarely in the "villain" category. Every villain (or good villain, at least) has justification for why they do what they do. It doesn't make them any less villainous. It just makes them more relatable. I thijnk thedoctor's right. What the ship felt was lust, not love. It didn't even care that Lindsey was happily married. And such behavior does turn up plenty of times in storytelling from Ravana carrying off Sita in the "Ramayana" to Rabadash lusting after Queen Susan and ready to start a war to seize her in C. S. Lewis' "The Horse and his Boy", always carried out by the villain. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 12, 2014 12:04:32 GMT
I don't think boat is dead, Kat was just destroying the body she made for it That was my thoughts too, presumably his CPU is still in the boat somewhere. Unless that was one of the first things to be transformed. Also I like how Tom doesn't always take everything so seriously and can put in that last panel to make us laugh at the end of a serious chapter. Tom could be teeing us up so the chapter can end with dark foreshadowing. Provide the reader some emotional relief before smacking them out of the park. Perhaps a glimpse into what the robots or the Court may think of these events. "It was worth it" or "the experiment is proceeding on schedule". Nice to see that Paz has no issue being in a relationship with a mecha-angel. Or her powers of denial kicked in and she shrugged it off as a trick of the mind caused by the blue smoke. |
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Post by Per on Dec 12, 2014 12:33:36 GMT
I'm having mixed feelings about this too. When I saw Kat's expression of defiance in 1442, I hoped/expected it would be aimed at the other students rather than towards the ship. She'd shock the whaleship into a brief and unnatural life, it would have a short "tears in rain" speech, the other students would realize the actual consequences of their little adventure, and it would take the edge off the celebrations, providing a little something that the chapter (so far) seems to be missing.
Now, with the whale body the colour of burnt toast in the background, it rather supports the impression that Kat, after being shocked out of the flow of building the whale body and noticing that the ship's jig was up and everyone else was expressing triumph and concern with each other's safety, felt she needed to get in on the post-action posturing, frying the whale and telling off the robots... and I just don't know if that reflects well on her, however much the robots deserve being told off by somebody.
I'll forgive her if the chapter ends with Kat meeting the Seraphs in a secret basement and saying, "Guys, you understand I had to turn around and put on that show, you know? Now let's get down to business."
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Post by phyzome on Dec 12, 2014 13:34:38 GMT
By the by, have we yet seen the page that was accidentally posted? If so, which one was it?
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Post by freeman on Dec 12, 2014 14:09:37 GMT
You see, Annie was raised in a hospital; her stance on some things may be little more practical than that of the most.  gkc welp.png (71.66 KB) |
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 12, 2014 14:30:18 GMT
Nice to see that Paz has no issue being in a relationship with a mecha-angel. Or her powers of denial kicked in and she shrugged it off as a trick of the mind caused by the blue smoke. I'm relieved, as well. When you're young and in love, you overlook a lot of things. Then again, we don't know how Paz is. On seeing the Robodess, the previous page's last panel could have had a "Meow" thought bubble. For now, everyone's happy, except for douchebag AIs. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 12, 2014 14:32:21 GMT
It's times like this...  Busy weaseling foxing his way into position of a Trusted Advisor to the Robot King? I call it: on the next page, Rey appears, says "good job, Antimony" and hugs her. At least, Lindsey is too smart to show initiative in this regard... I feel a great disturbance in the Force...like a million Annie/whoever shippers screaming, then cut short. No-o-o... they're still going. |
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Post by noone3 on Dec 12, 2014 14:54:13 GMT
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAA! Same here. Well, Tom. I guess you owe me a packet of screen wipes. . . . Again. <wipes tear> Oh, that last panel... Pfff... <cracks up again> |
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 12, 2014 14:56:43 GMT
I can't say I've sympathized with Annie this much before.
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Post by Eversist on Dec 12, 2014 14:57:07 GMT
By the by, have we yet seen the page that was accidentally posted? If so, which one was it? I think it was just one page ahead of the one that was supposed to be posted. I'mma take that panel for my new avatar (since it appears no one else has yet), so if anyone wants my old one:  |
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Post by bluevitriol on Dec 12, 2014 15:05:24 GMT
Great face on her though. Very much like Finn from Adventure Time. |
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Post by alpacalypse on Dec 12, 2014 15:07:32 GMT
Well no one else seems shocked by Angel Kat, so Im gonna go with only Paz saw it. At least if I were one of their friends and saw Kat turn into some weird robot thing Id have gone over and made sure she was ok first.
Ive also been really happy with Jack and Jenny's relationship and how Jenny is more than just a Zimmy clone.
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Post by Eversist on Dec 12, 2014 15:11:35 GMT
Great face on her though. Very much like Finn from Adventure Time. Change her to a blonde, shop a blue shirt on there, and you got it. Tempted... |
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Post by fwip on Dec 12, 2014 15:14:28 GMT
(Said this in the comment box, only to realize that the comments don't save between pages) I'm very uncomfortable with this resolution (at least, what I've seen of it so far). It's true, Boat was doing some pretty heinous acts, but as far as I can tell he never intended to hurt anyone - All he wanted was to find love in the only way he believed he could. And now he's dead. And the protagonists are celebrating. Was there something I missed? Some justification for declaring him a complete villain that I didn't see? Because right now I'm really reluctant to go on watching everyone act like they did no wrong. We've been over this several times in previous discussion threads. Also, it may be a bit of a sore point due to one user, who was since banned, who repeatedly brought it up against the wishes of everyone else. |
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Post by Eversist on Dec 12, 2014 15:18:26 GMT
^I always miss the fun stuff.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Dec 12, 2014 15:40:00 GMT
"Hey, uh, guys, uhhh.......Good job, us!" *Mental pat on the back*
Kind of disappointed we didn't get more time with Robo-Kat. Hoping someone comments on it at least once before the wrapping up finishes.
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Post by bluevitriol on Dec 12, 2014 15:44:30 GMT
Very much like Finn from Adventure Time. Change her to a blonde, shop a blue shirt on there, and you got it. Tempted... Or change a picture of fire princess to Annie's colors hehe. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Dec 12, 2014 16:44:07 GMT
Is that some kind of face, Carver? (Tom said it first way back here, in case you don't remember) |
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Post by machival on Dec 12, 2014 17:27:09 GMT
I hope someone besides Paz saw robo-kat. It'd be kinda lame if it was just a blink and you miss it Pazllucination.
And Annie clearly needs to get a dungeon for storing friends. That way they can't go out and make other friends (or lovers).
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 12, 2014 17:35:30 GMT
I hope someone besides Paz saw robo-kat. It'd be kinda lame if it was just a blink and you miss it Pazllucination. And Annie clearly needs to get a dungeon for storing friends. That way they can't go out and make other friends (or lovers). So that's how Zimmingham started? |
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Post by keef on Dec 12, 2014 18:08:51 GMT
By the by, have we yet seen the page that was accidentally posted? If so, which one was it? Is that some kind of face, Carver? The saddest, back to being a wallflower... |
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Post by fish on Dec 12, 2014 18:30:32 GMT
By the by, have we yet seen the page that was accidentally posted? If so, which one was it? It was page 1438. |
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 12, 2014 18:34:02 GMT
(Said this in the comment box, only to realize that the comments don't save between pages) I'm very uncomfortable with this resolution (at least, what I've seen of it so far). It's true, Boat was doing some pretty heinous acts, but as far as I can tell he never intended to hurt anyone - All he wanted was to find love in the only way he believed he could. And now he's dead. And the protagonists are celebrating. Was there something I missed? Some justification for declaring him a complete villain that I didn't see? Because right now I'm really reluctant to go on watching everyone act like they did no wrong. We had this chat a while ago, almost in reverse...let me go find that link... EDIT: the second half of this thread. Anyway, we'd essentially come to the conclusion that, although many of us do have sympathy for the ship, he did something rash, dangerous, and self-serving that really does place him as a villain, albeit a sympathetic one. The phrase I used, I think, was "good ends, bad means". Remember how perilous Zimmingham really is! That's where Jack's mind was enslaved, and WoT says that's not close to the most dangerous thing there. To me it actually seems sloppy that the kids could stroll around Zimmingham without running into anything dangerous at all (I hope we are given a reason for this sometime). I don't think the Ship deserved to die for this. Actually, I'm of the opinion that, until otherwise informed, the Ship's mind was not in that whale-beast. But when one tries to coerce a Goddess, one may be smited. |
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Post by mordekai on Dec 12, 2014 19:12:12 GMT
Where is Jackalope? I was sure (s)he (she was female, but as a human she will become a male) was introduced as a potential love interest for Annie?
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Post by machival on Dec 12, 2014 19:29:07 GMT
Where is Jackalope? I was sure (s)he (she was female, but as a human she will become a male) was introduced as a potential love interest for Annie? Have we seen any of the foley students on the cruise? From what we've seen previously it seems like the jackalope would end up in foley, and at least to my recollection none of those guys have shown up on the cruise. |
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Post by alpacalypse on Dec 12, 2014 19:53:59 GMT
Where is Jackalope? I was sure (s)he (she was female, but as a human she will become a male) was introduced as a potential love interest for Annie? Have we seen any of the foley students on the cruise? From what we've seen previously it seems like the jackalope would end up in foley, and at least to my recollection none of those guys have shown up on the cruise. Well according to Red back in Red Returns, they don't get summer break cause school doesnt end for them. |
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Post by machival on Dec 12, 2014 21:49:35 GMT
Have we seen any of the foley students on the cruise? From what we've seen previously it seems like the jackalope would end up in foley, and at least to my recollection none of those guys have shown up on the cruise. Well according to Red back in Red Returns, they don't get summer break cause school doesnt end for them. Ah right, they're on the crummy schedule. I wouldn't be surprised then if they don't get things like cruises or fancy party hats. |
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Post by Gulby on Dec 12, 2014 21:56:42 GMT
Call it now : Paz is doing like there's nothing wrong for now, but she will go see Annie to tell her what she (thinks she) have seen about Kat, because she's concerned.
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