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Post by warrl on Sept 1, 2014 16:28:43 GMT
Even when the robots are being incredibly serious... they're still incredibly silly. Also, nice shot, Annie! O( ' ^)o She doesn't have to use fireballs either. These "robots" are actually appendages. She can cause heat *inside* them, to cook their radios into non-functionality, without even worrying about destroying sentient (let alone sapient) beings. Although it may be better to burn off the radio antennae. Kat and Jack can probably fix that on enough of them to operate the ship. Burning up the radios themselves, maybe not. "There are problems that can't be solved with duct tape?" (c) Freefall That's what WD-40 is for. I still can't help wondering how the Court will treat the robot community after this (assuming they find out - and with this many students witniessing the event, someone is sure to talk - not to mention the Court most likely having other information-gathering measures in place). Most likely, the Court's other information-gathering measures involve the robots.
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Post by Purgatorius on Sept 1, 2014 16:29:49 GMT
I have also been wondering about Loveboat's standing among the robots. How did they come up with this plan?
Loveboat: "Oh, how I yearn for Lindsey, but, alas, to her I am just a machine. But how could I ever be anything else?" Seraph: "Actually, one of the students are working on growing a biological body for robots. It's the one that is considered to be an angel, and will bring us into a new era of existence. If you had that, you would surely win the heart of Lindsey." Loveboat: "But is it finished? Can you use it?"* Seraph: "Actually not. But there is this other student who has the ability to distort reality when she is really stressed and not close to her only friend. If let her alter the reality of the biogenerator, maybe it will be finished sooner. As a hypotheses anyway." Loveboat: "That would be great. Even if it is just a hypotheses, it is well worth all the trouble a try would be. Although I am a robot and have infinite lifespan, Lindsey does not. I want to woo her before she gets old and wrinkly." Loveboat: "So, can you help me, by - establishing a grid of etheric syphons at sea
- stealing the biogenerator from the Angel who is considered the Robot Messiah
- sneak it (and yourselves) aboard me when the students go for a school trip with me
- help keep the students in check if they don't cooperate
- and, first of all, kill Lindseys present husband and make it look like an accident?"**
Seraph: "Sure, no problem, buddy. Love makes you act in strange ways, after all."
*another relevant question would be "Will Lindsey like it?" **yes, we haven't seen that, but what will the robots do about him?
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Post by Purgatorius on Sept 1, 2014 16:41:21 GMT
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Post by jda on Sept 1, 2014 16:50:23 GMT
Well, as stated (or implied) on the same page, the protection is granted BECAUSE of Kat's "on the right track" on the robots bodyfication. And in all history, Protection includes Cooperation..
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 1, 2014 17:29:49 GMT
Ah ha ha hah ah this page cracks me up...Annie is so badass here, but the robots have certainly become more genre-savvy!
I am curious about the functioning of etheric syphons though...
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Post by nero on Sept 1, 2014 17:35:36 GMT
This brings more questions up. Does the ship have some plan to hold Lindsey in place like a net? Could the ship have carried those syphons or did the other robots place them there before? Maybe the ship was the one who actually invited Zimmy and Gamma somehow.
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Post by thedoctor on Sept 1, 2014 17:58:04 GMT
Well, as stated (or implied) on the same page, the protection is granted BECAUSE of Kat's "on the right track" on the robots bodyfication. And in all history, Protection includes Cooperation.. Hahaha! I've always thought of the robots protecting Kat as a sort of altruistic gesture. Now I realize; it's totally a protection racket, as in "If ya don't cooperate, ya gunna sleep wit' da fishes," 50s gangster style! The Seraphs are the Mafia!
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Post by sapientcoffee on Sept 1, 2014 18:51:35 GMT
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Post by Intelligence on Sept 1, 2014 19:22:22 GMT
What is Annie attacking for? Now the experiment MUST be done.
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Post by shadowhunter on Sept 1, 2014 19:49:02 GMT
That is a great avatar... Hey hello! Nice first post and great avatar. Hey there. I feel bad for replying to these so late but it took me a long, long time to work out how to put two quotes in the same comment. Anyway, thanks for the greetings and such. I've been lurking around for quite a while, but that clonged robot scene was too awesome for me to stay silent. And I appreciate the avatar comments. There are a lot of really solid avatars on this Forum, so I'm glad people didn't find mine ghastly or anything. Self-indulgent, thread-stealing speech over now. Sorry!
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Post by exuberancium on Sept 1, 2014 19:49:20 GMT
In all seriousness though, doesn't Annie choose what her etheric form collides with? Just phase through the helmets and hit the buttons? ...or just burn everything, that'd work too. To an extent. gunnerkrigg.com/?p=706I think the implication there is that she projected her etheric form through the opening above the door rather than actually phasing through it.
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 1, 2014 20:46:33 GMT
"Give me ALL your cookies. Now!" eightyfour should have that one... Ha! Edit: I think it's time we slap some warning labels on this chapter: The top row for the robots and the bottom row for Zimmy. Those would make a really weird board game. Why no one chimed in with an obvious observation after the pieces are arranged like this? I feel Annie should have a label, too, but I didn't find anything fitting. Try to look e.g. here. Far be it from me to underestimate the usefulness of moving rebar, but specifically with Seraphs there can be problems. Holding onto the rod when it gets too hot, for one.
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Post by legion on Sept 1, 2014 20:54:16 GMT
Not as funny as: (Can you guess what has that symbol?)
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 1, 2014 20:54:35 GMT
Is the NFPA 704 Health Flammability Reactivity sign for the Chapter, robots, or Annie? I think the robots (and maybe Annie) may deserve a health hazard (blue) of 1 (can cause significant irritation).
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 1, 2014 21:18:12 GMT
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Post by Pig_catapult on Sept 1, 2014 21:43:51 GMT
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Post by Purgatorius on Sept 1, 2014 21:48:15 GMT
Got me thinking... I wonder if it hadn't been more "dramatically appropriate" to let the musik play during all this. An interesting contrast between the dance music, the robots' crazy plans and now the fighting.
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Post by freeformline on Sept 1, 2014 21:56:11 GMT
In all seriousness though, doesn't Annie choose what her etheric form collides with? Just phase through the helmets and hit the buttons? As far as I remember Annie never phased through anythinng before. Even in Spring Heeled she had to go through the open window above the door too push the button. Good catch. I had thought she was just going through the door.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 1, 2014 21:59:01 GMT
O and W (with a line through it, hard to see but it is there) means Oxidizing Agent, Water Reactive (don't put water on it)
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Post by todd on Sept 1, 2014 22:29:26 GMT
One other thought: the robots expect Zimmy to "perform a Level 6 Etheric Distortion upon request". How carefully have they researched her? Zimmy doesn't control her abilities; they just burst out whenever Gamma's not close enough or incapacitated. She certainly doesn't seem to have the capability of tuning her powers to a specific level.
Not to mention that Zimmy's abilities seem so dangerous to everyone, whether human, animal, or robot, that you'd have to be out of your mind to want to use them for a tool. Further evidence that the robots are stupidly smart.
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Post by mordekai on Sept 1, 2014 22:38:37 GMT
You know, now that I think about it, Annie has powerful flames that burn only what she wants to burn, intangibility that allows her to selectively touch and manipulate solid stuff if she wishes so, and a kick ass Godly Sword Of Cutting Everything that can cut even intangible/etheric beings...she can be quite a slaughter machine, if she wants to be so...
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 1, 2014 23:19:20 GMT
I think it's time we slap some warning labels on this chapter: The top row for the robots and the bottom row for Zimmy. I feel Annie should have a label, too, but I didn't find anything fitting. Where'd you find these labels?
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 1, 2014 23:22:41 GMT
You know, now that I think about it, Annie has powerful flames that burn only what she wants to burn, intangibility that allows her to selectively touch and manipulate solid stuff if she wishes so, and a kick ass Godly Sword Of Cutting Everything that can cut even intangible/etheric beings...she can be quite a slaughter machine, if she wants to be so... Raising the oft-considered question: in a true no-holds-barred fight, which GKC character would win? (Coyote and Zimmy excluded.)
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Post by King Mir on Sept 1, 2014 23:48:54 GMT
You know, now that I think about it, Annie has powerful flames that burn only what she wants to burn, intangibility that allows her to selectively touch and manipulate solid stuff if she wishes so, and a kick ass Godly Sword Of Cutting Everything that can cut even intangible/etheric beings...she can be quite a slaughter machine, if she wants to be so... Raising the oft-considered question: in a true no-holds-barred fight, which GKC character would win? (Coyote and Zimmy excluded.) Jones of course.
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Post by The Anarch on Sept 2, 2014 0:24:06 GMT
Raising the oft-considered question: in a true no-holds-barred fight, which GKC character would win? (Coyote and Zimmy excluded.) Jones of course. Quoted for truth, justice, and the Jonseian way.
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Post by warrl on Sept 2, 2014 0:25:39 GMT
Raising the oft-considered question: in a true no-holds-barred fight, which GKC character would win? (Coyote and Zimmy excluded.) Jones of course. Of the known characters, I call a 5-way draw. The five are: * Jones - apparently damage-proof, and able to hit very very hard. Problem: moves relatively slowly. * Jeanne - probably resistant to most forms of damage, and an excellent swordswoman. Problem: severely restricted in reachable territory. * Parley - extremely fast and mobile, and a very good swordswoman. Problem: can't hurt the indestructible, and fragile. * Annie - quite mobile in three dimensions, can do reconnaisance without being detected by Jones or Parley, has a ranged attack, and has a sword which is the only thing we know of that *might* be able to harm Jeanne. Problem: not particularly fast, and fragile; and (as far as we know) not nearly the swordswoman Parley is. * Lindsey - fast and mobile in three dimensions; can move freely in water, which is a problem for opponents who are physically dense or breathe air. Problem: effectively restricted to ocean, preferably fairly deep ocean, so can't reach far onto land. Basically these five are those who can't be harmed by the others, and those who can't be caught by the others. The only non-obvious strategy tip is that Annie needs to fly away without Parley seeing her (or while Parley is too busy with something else to immediately follow) and then stay away from everyone else. Now if Annie develops the ability to cause real-world fires while being in the aetherium herself, then Parley and Lindsey are very vulnerable to her. (Maybe not Lindsey. Wasn't she shown with a red shell? That would probably indicate that she has already been cooked.)
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Post by eightyfour on Sept 2, 2014 0:54:26 GMT
Where'd you find these labels? Oh that's from one of those random funny images that accumulate on your hard drive over time. Stumbled across it years ago somewhere in the depth of the internet, I guess. Try googling for "future warning signs". There's more of 'em, one for just about any dramatic sci-fi scenario you can think of. The most horrible of course being: Edit: This appears to be the original source.
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Post by mordekai on Sept 2, 2014 1:55:07 GMT
Of the known characters, I call a 5-way draw. The five are: * Jones - apparently damage-proof, and able to hit very very hard. Problem: moves relatively slowly. * Jeanne - probably resistant to most forms of damage, and an excellent swordswoman. Problem: severely restricted in reachable territory. * Parley - extremely fast and mobile, and a very good swordswoman. Problem: can't hurt the indestructible, and fragile. * Annie - quite mobile in three dimensions, can do reconnaisance without being detected by Jones or Parley, has a ranged attack, and has a sword which is the only thing we know of that *might* be able to harm Jeanne. Problem: not particularly fast, and fragile; and (as far as we know) not nearly the swordswoman Parley is. * Lindsey - fast and mobile in three dimensions; can move freely in water, which is a problem for opponents who are physically dense or breathe air. Problem: effectively restricted to ocean, preferably fairly deep ocean, so can't reach far onto land. Basically these five are those who can't be harmed by the others, and those who can't be caught by the others. The only non-obvious strategy tip is that Annie needs to fly away without Parley seeing her (or while Parley is too busy with something else to immediately follow) and then stay away from everyone else. Now if Annie develops the ability to cause real-world fires while being in the aetherium herself, then Parley and Lindsey are very vulnerable to her. (Maybe not Lindsey. Wasn't she shown with a red shell? That would probably indicate that she has already been cooked.) It has been said that Coyote's Tooth may be the one weapon able to hurt Jones (Jones thinks that Coyote can't hurt her, but, is that true? It could be that Coyote just hasn't seriously tried to kill her). Also, Tom Siddell has said that Jeanne would be hard to put down even for Coyote, so I guess she would pose a threat even for Jones. About Annie, she can become ethereal and be untouchable for Jones or Parsley, and Coyote's Tooth probably can be used against solid beings while in ethereal state.
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Post by fwip on Sept 2, 2014 2:05:38 GMT
Of the known characters, I call a 5-way draw. The five are: * Jones - apparently damage-proof, and able to hit very very hard. Problem: moves relatively slowly. * Jeanne - probably resistant to most forms of damage, and an excellent swordswoman. Problem: severely restricted in reachable territory. * Parley - extremely fast and mobile, and a very good swordswoman. Problem: can't hurt the indestructible, and fragile. * Annie - quite mobile in three dimensions, can do reconnaisance without being detected by Jones or Parley, has a ranged attack, and has a sword which is the only thing we know of that *might* be able to harm Jeanne. Problem: not particularly fast, and fragile; and (as far as we know) not nearly the swordswoman Parley is. * Lindsey - fast and mobile in three dimensions; can move freely in water, which is a problem for opponents who are physically dense or breathe air. Problem: effectively restricted to ocean, preferably fairly deep ocean, so can't reach far onto land. Basically these five are those who can't be harmed by the others, and those who can't be caught by the others. The only non-obvious strategy tip is that Annie needs to fly away without Parley seeing her (or while Parley is too busy with something else to immediately follow) and then stay away from everyone else. Now if Annie develops the ability to cause real-world fires while being in the aetherium herself, then Parley and Lindsey are very vulnerable to her. I don't think Eggers being out of the running is a forgone conclusion. He has access to the Donlan equipment, he implies that he might have a chance against Jones at long range, and he does know a few tricks. I mean, you don't get chosen as protector of the entire dang Court just 'cause you're big enough to wield one of those 5' 6" anime swords.XD
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Post by Fishy on Sept 2, 2014 3:32:54 GMT
Credit to Annie. There's lot less opportunities where throwing fire at a problem solves it in the Gunnerkrigg universe than you might think, but damn if she isn't quick on the uptake.
But I feel as though there's still a missing piece of this little scenario. The ship's command was "You will make me flesh", "You" referring to Kat. But afterwards, the ship just went ahead and tried to do it all on its own with Zimmy... so that being the case, wouldn't Kat still be expected to do something not yet explained?
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