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Post by gradiant on Aug 29, 2014 14:38:46 GMT
Actually, Antimony hasn't really done anything in the last couple strips, so it's possible that she's calling Lindsey through the ether and it's just taking a bit for her to show up. She could also probably talk to Reynardine and have him tell people at the Court.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 29, 2014 14:43:31 GMT
By the way, does anyone else think Zimmignham-Reynardine from back in Dobranoc Gamma has some distinctively mechanical features? I remember thinking that was kind of odd way back then, but didn't pay it any mind. You're right, though -- between the cylinders/pistons/metal paneling and the external musculature sort of grafted on, it certainly seems to fit! For the life of me though, I can't seem to quite connect the dots between that part of the story, Rey specifically, and what's going on now in a satisfying way. I feel like I must be looking at it wrong (two faces instead of a vase, that sort of thing.) Edit: The note on that page says "9384 hours, 38 minutes", which works out to just over 391 days until (or since!) the rainstorm that relieved Zimmy here. I don't keep close tabs on the chronology, but I don't think that lines up does it? It's been a few years since then right? More than one anyway. Weirder and weirder... Things aren't looking good, all things considered. This chapter now keeps flipping between silly and terrifying like it was going out of style. I guess we'll at least find out whether the robots have any presence in Zimmingham... Sillifying, perhaps?    As for robots in Zimmingham, I just imagined the nobodies becoming networked like these sailorbots. Doubleplusungood. Now that I think about it, Neither of them have faces..... |
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Post by eyemyself on Aug 29, 2014 14:43:46 GMT
We also don't know that it is only the kids on the boat yet. Like lit implied, the other dorms probably have their own caretakers and if Lindsey is along to chaperon I suspect some of the others are as well. Now, whether or not they are free to move about the ship or have been detained by robot coup is another matter. Annie has been awfully quite the last few pages... it is possible she is already in the ether trying to contact help. Edit: Actually, Antimony hasn't really done anything in the last couple strips, so it's possible that she's calling Lindsey through the ether and it's just taking a bit for her to show up. She could also probably talk to Reynardine and have him tell people at the Court. Ninja'd Anyone else notice that while Kat and the spokes-sailor-bot seem to have changed positions relative to Paz, Paz's posture does not seem to have changed at all since last page? Her arms are out in front of her in an odd manner, not a pose I would expect someone to hold. |
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Post by sabriel on Aug 29, 2014 14:52:15 GMT
Huh. I guess that's the fancy name for it. On the other hand I'd be interested in the possibility that the etheric generator isn't Zimmy, but Gamma. So far the only other things we've seen that helps Zimmy are Annie and rain. Annie is part fire elemental, and it wouldn't be hard to believe that fire elementals are part of the ether. Additionally, Jones said here that rain helps due to the natural presence of ether in the water. If the only other two things that help Zimmy have ether in them, it would make sense to guess that Gamma must have a lot of ether in her. After all, the power station only extracts ether. It doesn't generate it. And I don't think Annie's ever been in ether-mode with Gamma nearby, so we don't know what she looks like there. Kind of a long shot, but I guess we'll find out in the next week or so!
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 29, 2014 14:52:29 GMT
I'm sure that this is all just like the ghost from Residential - something to make the trip more fun!
...and if not, this is why you send real, adult, human chaperons on your technomagical school field trips.
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Post by eyemyself on Aug 29, 2014 15:00:46 GMT
Huh. I guess that's the fancy name for it. On the other hand I'd be interested in the possibility that the etheric generator isn't Zimmy, but Gamma. So far the only other things we've seen that helps Zimmy are Annie and rain. Annie is part fire elemental, and it wouldn't be hard to believe that fire elementals are part of the ether. Additionally, Jones said here that rain helps due to the natural presence of ether in the water. If the only other two things that help Zimmy have ether in them, it would make sense to guess that Gamma must have a lot of ether in her. After all, the power station only extracts ether. It doesn't generate it. And I don't think Annie's ever been in ether-mode with Gamma nearby, so we don't know what she looks like there. Kind of a long shot, but I guess we'll find out in the next week or so! An interesting theory, but since the robots specifically say that the etheric generator is to distort what is real and we know that when she is by herself Zimmy's abilities distort reality I suspect she is the one they are referring to. |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 29, 2014 15:11:28 GMT
Oh. Oh SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!! PANIC! EVERYONE, NOW IS -ABSOLUTELY-THE TIME TO PANIC. This heresy the ship has concocted, has it no bounds? Don't you know? The bound of any heresy is *BLAM* ( correct link) Anyone else wondering if seeing Zimmy in danger is going to trigger Gamma's abilities to become more active? Tho I suspect the other is more likely and Zimmy will snap seeing Gamma in danger, which may be to the ship's plan. Gamma's abilities limit the possible responce to "contact with Lindsey". Annie's abilities allow possible responce by BLOOPing Seraphs and boiling away parts of remotes, though the more proper solution would be melting server-side communication units. |
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Post by eyemyself on Aug 29, 2014 15:18:52 GMT
Anyone else wondering if seeing Zimmy in danger is going to trigger Gamma's abilities to become more active? Tho I suspect the other is more likely and Zimmy will snap seeing Gamma in danger, which may be to the ship's plan. Gamma's abilities limit the possible responce to "contact with Lindsey". Annie's abilities allow possible responce by BLOOPing Seraphs and boiling away parts of remotes, though the more proper solution would be melting server-side communication units. I'm under the impression that we don't know the full extent of Gamma's abilities yet. We've gotten hints that her etheric abilities are actually stronger than Annie's but we've never seen them in use beyond acting as a ground for Zimmy and clearing nobodies out of the way. |
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Post by keef on Aug 29, 2014 15:23:20 GMT
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 29, 2014 15:25:22 GMT
By the way, does anyone else think Zimmignham-Reynardine from back in Dobranoc Gamma has some distinctively mechanical features? I remember thinking that was kind of odd way back then, but didn't pay it any mind. You're right, though -- between the cylinders/pistons/metal paneling and the external musculature sort of grafted on, it certainly seems to fit! Ditto. It doesn't seem like the ship has thought it through too long-term. Doesn't the reality distortion revert afterwards? Perhaps, from a child's point of view, all love is magically long-term. Then, I started thinking- Also, when that entire ship, filled with students, becomes flesh. Where are the students then? And what will happen to them? They'll need to get all that flesh from somewhere. The Love Boat will want to talk with Lindsey somehow, and Paz has that wonderful ability. It would be wasteful, if it didn't try... If the ship thinks, it can convince Lindsey to stay in Zimmingham, it may think it never has to wake up from the dream. Of course, there are more Lovecraftian/SCP scenarios. As for robots in Zimmingham, I just imagined the nobodies becoming networked like these sailorbots. Doubleplusungood. Now that I think about it, Neither of them have faces..... if the ship is left to wander Zimmyville for eternity. How would those images look for final panels? |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 29, 2014 16:10:22 GMT
Thanks for the heads up, keef; I just corrected the attribution. It's easy to slip up when copying out those nested quotes. :-) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 29, 2014 16:50:47 GMT
Man, I sleep in one update and catch the plot twist late. I remember thinking that was kind of odd way back then, but didn't pay it any mind. You're right, though -- between the cylinders/pistons/metal paneling and the external musculature sort of grafted on, it certainly seems to fit! Ditto. It doesn't seem like the ship has thought it through too long-term. Doesn't the reality distortion revert afterwards? Perhaps, from a child's point of view, all love is magically long-term. Then, I started thinking- They'll need to get all that flesh from somewhere. The Love Boat will want to talk with Lindsey somehow, and Paz has that wonderful ability. It would be wasteful, if it didn't try... If the ship thinks, it can convince Lindsey to stay in Zimmingham, it may think it never has to wake up from the dream. Of course, there are more Lovecraftian/SCP scenarios. As for robots in Zimmingham, I just imagined the nobodies becoming networked like these sailorbots. Doubleplusungood. Now that I think about it, Neither of them have faces..... if the ship is left to wander Zimmyville for eternity. How would those images look for final panels? I could also see the Love Boat being happy with a temporary transmutation into flesh and then turning back into a pumpkin after an hour, whatever the results of the romantic adventure. The students along for the ride inside (sharing the experience?) would be left with the "was that really real" and "did that really happen?" questions which are common to GC. And the "let us never speak of this again" conclusion. But the heroes will probably try to stop any of these awesome possibilities from becoming subjective reality, if only to preserve their ability to eat seafood without vomiting ever again. |
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Post by Kuraimizu on Aug 29, 2014 16:58:08 GMT
I think the robots are descending into madness.
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Post by nero on Aug 29, 2014 17:19:44 GMT
"I will finally win the heart of Lindsey" from the previous page means that it must have harbored these feelings for a long time. I hope we get to see if Lindsey knew this or how this got started.
It must have heard about Kat from the Seraphs and somehow convinced them to do this. I guess the Seraphs wanted to help the cruise ship win Lindsey's heart. That ship was waiting for the perfect chance to gain some way of impressing Lindsey and its pretty desperate using Zimmy like that. After this trip the relations between the Court and all robots will definitely change. Not only will Kat be in trouble but the robots will be under surveillance. The Court will see that it was wrong to rely so much on robots even though they probably don't have enough staff to watch over the children.
I'm hoping that this adventure ends with Lindsey carrying all the students back to the Court.
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Post by LaserPigeon on Aug 29, 2014 17:49:59 GMT
"I will finally win the heart of Lindsey" from the previous page means that it must have harbored these feelings for a long time. I hope we get to see if Lindsey knew this or how this got started. Did you just...? |
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Post by hypixion on Aug 29, 2014 18:12:11 GMT
what if everything goes wrong and robots or technology starts growing all over the court? In the future pic of reynardine it looks like he has grown into the ground. I dunno.
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Post by Chancellor on Aug 29, 2014 18:16:58 GMT
Or the court, crazy lot that they are, ENCOURAGE Kat's experiments because LOLSCIENCE.
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Post by agentletrush on Aug 29, 2014 19:30:02 GMT
This is extremely inadvisable and will certainly have repercussions.
On a lighter note, if it comes to a straight up fight, I think the students should mop the floor with the robots. Annie alone could probably take out a bunch, and Chester has a presence on the boat, which should help immensely. The robots will have an advantage in coordination, of course, but I think the students will have enough firepower to make up for it. Given that Zimmy could blow soon, I wholeheartedly advise no hesitation in resorting to violence!
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Post by The Anarch on Aug 29, 2014 19:59:47 GMT
Also, when that entire ship, filled with students, becomes flesh. Where are the students then? And what will happen to them? |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 29, 2014 20:05:45 GMT
If there aren't any adults on board (which is entirely possible), they'll want to contact the Court somehow. Would Lindsey be able to quickly get back to the Court if Annie notified her? Would she willingly leave the ship full of kids alone? Did Annie bring Elgamore's distress beacon? Would it work from wherever they are? Might the Donlans have given Kat a key to the family computer? Why, for Coyote's sake, would they want to do this? Also, when that entire ship, filled with students, becomes flesh. Where are the students then? And what will happen to them? Right where he wants them? Transformation may be taxing, and all that... |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Aug 29, 2014 20:18:36 GMT
Also, when that entire ship, filled with students, becomes flesh. Where are the students then? And what will happen to them? They'll need to get all that flesh from somewhere. |
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Post by Purgatorius on Aug 29, 2014 20:40:02 GMT
Hey, I wanted to say that. (that's what I get for not checking the comic until late evening) (at least I managed to snatch another source) |
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Post by Purgatorius on Aug 29, 2014 20:55:34 GMT
Annie's abilities allow possible responce by BLOOPing Seraphs and boiling away parts of remotes, though the more proper solution would be melting server-side communication units. But, on the other hand, shutting down the ship is probably a bad idea in this weather. |
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Post by Per on Aug 29, 2014 21:01:15 GMT
Interestingly, thinking about Zimmy/Kat power intersectionality for the previous comic called to mind SHODAN altering reality to achieve the desired result. |
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Post by keef on Aug 29, 2014 21:06:17 GMT
the ship is left to wander Zimmyville for eternity. That, or Jack just now is using his Swiss army knife to open the case marked NOT A RESET BUTTON. Anyone else notice that while Kat and the spokes-sailor-bot seem to have changed positions relative to Paz, Paz's posture does not seem to have changed at all since last page? Her arms are out in front of her in an odd manner, not a pose I would expect someone to hold. Are you suggesting she's talking to Lindsey? I like that idea. I'm sure that this is all just like the ghost from Residential - something to make the trip more fun! I'm sure it's not. (you are joking right?)Either they were never on board, or they are held somewhere, possibly since the beginning of the trip. In that case Jones is not among them. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 29, 2014 21:23:06 GMT
Also, when that entire ship, filled with students, becomes flesh. Where are the students then? And what will happen to them? [video: Akira mutation scene/video] Amusing to ponder but naaaah. Merostomatazon are hard-shelled so repurposing the students should be wholly unneeded if you've got the ability to grow robots and an etheric generator. Besides, it's far funnier for them to be witnesses. The real question is, where are they going to find paper big enough to write THIS love letter? Annie's abilities allow possible responce by BLOOPing Seraphs and boiling away parts of remotes, though the more proper solution would be melting server-side communication units. But, on the other hand, shutting down the ship is probably a bad idea in this weather. If they do have to shut the Love Boat down, traditionally it should be done by a guy named Dave. |
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Post by nero on Aug 29, 2014 21:26:31 GMT
"I will finally win the heart of Lindsey" from the previous page means that it must have harbored these feelings for a long time. I hope we get to see if Lindsey knew this or how this got started. Did you just...? When I was typing that out I realized that I made a pun. I didn't bother to substitute it because I didn't think anyone would notice it. Not bad for my first pun..
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Post by Purgatorius on Aug 29, 2014 21:27:48 GMT
...and if not, this is why you send real, adult, human chaperons on your technomagical school field trips. Isn't that why Lindsey is there? |
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Post by thedoctor on Aug 29, 2014 21:44:46 GMT
By now I wonder whether Lindsey is in on it. She invited everyone on the cruise after all, including Zimmy. We had sexual identity sub-plots before, the most recent one being an animal becoming human, including a sex change in the process. This one is about machine becoming living being. It's all wacky enough that it might as well all be Lindsey's idea. I didn't think Lindsey personally invited every student. I figured that Lindsey only invited the students of the dorm she supervised. I don't know how the dorms are divided up, but we know that Bud supervises the QN (and QS?) boys so it's likely he was the one to invite them on the cruise. I figure Foley and Chester at least must be in different dorms, or we would see Red, Zimmy etc running into Annie around the dorms instead of solely in other locations. So if all the classes are in different dorms, they probably have other folks supervising the dorms of the other classes. And would probably have those dorms supervisors invite the students on the cruise instead of some weird crab lady they don't even know. I don't know. I guess I am a little curious about the infrastructure. We saw in chapter one that there were at least thirty bunks, but we sure haven't run into 30 distinct female students in Annie's Questlett year, which could suggest that other classes share the dorms. However - I have a feeling that Tom initially planned the houses to be quite large and then they gradually sort of shrank in both his and the readers' perspectives when he decided to only focus on a handful - which, if I recall correctly, also sort of happened in Harry Potter. I think Rowling didn't initially intend there to be only eight students in Harry's year of Gryffindor (five boys and three girls) but only ever mentioned eight and later cut the ones that didn't have names. I think I read that somewhere. And I think I read about Tom making a similar decision but I don't remember where. I wonder if Bud came along like Lindsey did, or if the other dorm administration are also sea creatures that could conceivably swim along. I feel like we would have seen them though. Why would only Lindsey follow if Bud could swim as well? Shutting it down, making it drift without any kind of control in the middle of the storm is not really an option. That's sawing off the branch you're sitting on. It's a stretch, but maybe there's a backup AI that could be loaded. That is what Kat is for! Why are the robots holding Gamma and Zimmy? We haven't seen them hold anyone else, I guess the robots know about her powers? Were they planning on using Zimmy to alter reality? Also, I can't tell if Zimmy is reacting to the mention of the etheric generator, or just to being held by the robots. As said, Gamma's proximity (usually) holds Zimmy in check. By separating them, the robots have just done the equivalent of yanking out the graphite rods... This is a terrific analogy right here! Right down to the visceral reactions of horror! |
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Post by thedoctor on Aug 29, 2014 21:45:32 GMT
Why are the robots holding Gamma and Zimmy? We haven't seen them hold anyone else, I guess the robots know about her powers? Were they planning on using Zimmy to alter reality? Also, I can't tell if Zimmy is reacting to the mention of the etheric generator, or just to being held by the robots. Zimmy is the "etheric generator", and since Gamma is her suppressor mechanism, the robots have to separate them from one another for their plan to work. And Zimmy's presumably reacting because she's being forcefully separated from Gamma. And robots can use violence against students. That's still not quite clear. They are using force, but they're not actually hurting Zimmy or Gamma. Things aren't looking good, all things considered. This chapter now keeps flipping between silly and terrifying like it was going out of style. I guess we'll at least find out whether the robots have any presence in Zimmingham... Yeah, forget about mood whiplash, this is like a mood roller-coaster! |
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