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Post by csj on Feb 14, 2014 13:52:28 GMT
In all honesty, the funniest thing about this whole scenario is this; if the afterlife guides have known who Jeanne is for this long (or at least, ever since Annie told them) and apparently have permission to access the RotD archives, why didn't they? Sure, they may not get along too well (the ghosts and psychopomps that is), but it does look like Muut & co are getting Annie to do all the heavy-lifting. Again. Lazy bastards.  |
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Post by Daedalus on Feb 14, 2014 14:06:18 GMT
I dont't think that the last one *can* be Lamet. If Annie had already seen him as one of the beings on the tape, she would not be surprised that he had been killed.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 14, 2014 14:19:15 GMT
Off screen: "Dom, dom, DOM!"
Kat: "Cut that crap out!" *bangs on wall*
If the last head is Lamet, he looks a little like an Easter Island Moai. I've been thinking about psychopomp's effects on passed spirits, but since there's some kind of "feedback loop" with the Ether and the world, what happens to a people without a psychopomp? What if there is no substitute psychopomp?
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Post by legion on Feb 14, 2014 14:44:43 GMT
Wait.
Could it be that Mort is blocked on Earth because his psychopomp has been killed by Jeanne???
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Post by Marnath on Feb 14, 2014 14:56:10 GMT
I dont't think that the last one *can* be Lamet. If Annie had already seen him as one of the beings on the tape, she would not be surprised that he had been killed. She doesn't have to have met him to recognize the name. She merely needs to have heard him mentioned in passing. I don't understand the confusion. The way it's phrased, that has to be Lamet. |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 14, 2014 15:11:57 GMT
In all honesty, the funniest thing about this whole scenario is this; if the afterlife guides have known who Jeanne is for this long (or at least, ever since Annie told them) and apparently have permission to access the RotD archives, why didn't they? Who says they didn't? |
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Post by exdevlin on Feb 14, 2014 15:16:15 GMT
"No wonder the psychopomps want her to deal with Jeanne."
It seems Lamet, the last one, is the only psychopomp, what does that make the others?
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Post by marv on Feb 14, 2014 15:18:23 GMT
Sure, they may not get along too well (the ghosts and psychopomps that is), but it does look like Muut & co are getting Annie to do all the heavy-lifting. Again. Well, sure. If psychopomps will just get killed if they go down there, then they're going to need someone else to do it. |
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Post by yarksie on Feb 14, 2014 15:30:25 GMT
eh this better not end badly
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Post by Señor Goose on Feb 14, 2014 16:03:44 GMT
Quarry (aside from a large hole filled with minerals) refers to any target of a hunt or excursion. So the psychopomp was probably tring to go get Jeanne when she knocked him off. ... or trying to get something Jeanne got ... ... kinda explains how she got so many psychopomps ... Hey, that works too. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Feb 14, 2014 16:14:35 GMT
I wonder.....given Robes Guy's distasteful but clearly familiar response to their inquiry on this page, what are the odds that he was one of the ones that was taken out by Jeanne? Perhaps he was even one of the afterlife guides she killed, who are all stuck in the RoTD having had nobody to guide them on? If Robes Guy had previously been an afterlife guide, that would explain why he's so disdainful of the education level of the newest recruits... |
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Post by noone3 on Feb 14, 2014 17:02:45 GMT
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Post by keef on Feb 14, 2014 17:10:39 GMT
The way I read it, none of the guys we see here is a guide, a bit like arf legion and daedalus said. (that's a point actually, they are all guys, can't blame her for not liking guys )Different point, what does the last ghost mean with "friend and foe"? He can not know Jeanne was placed there by the court. |
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Post by stef1987 on Feb 14, 2014 17:15:40 GMT
Somebody set up us the bomb.
(seriously, no one?)
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Post by Omnium on Feb 14, 2014 17:35:35 GMT
 Sums up my thought process after reading this chapter. Etheric beings aren't so different from humans, I guess. Also, is anyone else thinking that Robeguy has more to say about 'the day we lost Lamet'? Jeanne killing a psychopomp is not in itself interesting. She's killed any that she's come across. What if he was about to say "...was the day you fell off the bridge" before Annie cut in. I'm probably wrong, but that was what I thought once I'd got over the demon thing. |
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Post by sidhekin on Feb 14, 2014 17:46:50 GMT
I dont't think that the last one *can* be Lamet. If Annie had already seen him as one of the beings on the tape, she would not be surprised that he had been killed. The different guides have different domains. Muut picked up Americans, including Coyotes glass eyed men. Kektrek picked up flies. If Lamet's domain covers stuff that Jeanne kills (forest creatures?), it may well be he doesdid not cover anything that dies in the Good Hope. But of course, Muut and other would know him, and Annie might have heard of him. Even Surma might have met him; as a medium, she did hang out in the forest ... But yeah, the phrasing is confusing. Robe guy suggests not "Lamet", but "the day Lamet was lost". But if that's all it is, why should the last one be the singular one to speak of "quarry" and "no distinction between friend or foe"? Those are things we could expect a psychopomp to mention, not random critters from the forest. I think I jumped to the conclusion it was Lamet, but yeah, rereading robe guy's words, otherwise is suggested. |
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Post by quoodle on Feb 14, 2014 17:59:26 GMT
Interesting
- So Jeanne kills everything down there - Perhaps the fairies were down at the annan waters because they knew they'd be killed there - whether they knew specifically about Jeanne or not is not clear.
- And well, Duh, she can kill psychopomps (slaps head) - she can cut through etheric beings (Annie) and the results are permanent like death is (Annie's cut is still there). A normal sword would kill the body and not the "soul".
- Does Jeanne also "kill" the Tic-Tocs? There were a couple of "dead" ones down there (one where Annie was and one reported on the opposite shore by Ys) and we don't know of any natural predator for them.
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Post by cu on Feb 14, 2014 18:29:30 GMT
You have to give it to Diego. If someone could royally mess up with the ether and throw a spanner in its works, that was the old Sr. Big Nose himself. Respect!
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 14, 2014 18:32:39 GMT
Warning: hypervelocity impact. Fan sensor signal is lost. I think I know how to make Jones "move on" for good. Hit her with a railgun. Let Jesus be her psychopomp.  |
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Post by atteSmythe on Feb 14, 2014 18:52:29 GMT
It's becoming clear to me that they should just send Jones in after the arrow.
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Post by kalechibki on Feb 14, 2014 19:50:18 GMT
I am wondering how the heck they built that bridge over the waters, with or without a massive death toll. By having a kite flying contest. This little tidbit is one of my favorites. |
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Post by philman on Feb 14, 2014 20:11:56 GMT
It seems to me that the last one is lamet, he went to retrieve his quarry, which I first took to mean one of those she killed, but makes more sense to be him trying to collect jeanne herself as others suggested. and robeguys comment Suggests they have tried to send more than one to collect her, lamet may have been the first, and his comment suggests the psychopomps see themselves as being friends on her side, and can't understand why she attacks them
Jeanne is there to prevent creatures and humans from CROSSING the river, Annie wasn't trying to cross the first time she was down there, which is why she escaped with a scar after she fainted.
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Post by Intelligence on Feb 14, 2014 21:01:02 GMT
No forest beings, no court beings, is there anyone Jeanne doesn't hate?  |
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Post by Per on Feb 14, 2014 21:01:09 GMT
They made a song about that guy, "Lamet".
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Post by legion on Feb 14, 2014 21:09:27 GMT
No forest beings, no court beings, is there anyone Jeanne doesn't hate? JEANNE ANGRY! JEANNE SMASHES! |
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Post by Daedalus on Feb 14, 2014 22:50:26 GMT
I dont't think that the last one *can* be Lamet. If Annie had already seen him as one of the beings on the tape, she would not be surprised that he had been killed. She doesn't have to have met him to recognize the name. She merely needs to have heard him mentioned in passing. I don't understand the confusion. The way it's phrased, that has to be Lamet. I had assumed that she knew what he looked like and would have recognized him in the photo if it was him, but I may be wrong. |
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Post by todd on Feb 14, 2014 23:15:21 GMT
You have to give it to Diego. If someone could royally mess up with the ether and throw a spanner in its works, that was the old Sr. Big Nose himself. Respect! Maybe not too surprising, given that the Court's whole goal was (and still is) to meddle with the ether. |
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Post by arf on Feb 15, 2014 1:13:59 GMT
No forest beings, no court beings, is there anyone Jeanne doesn't hate? Cool green dudes (Oh, Ka-amlen!?) |
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Post by thedoctor on Feb 15, 2014 1:17:58 GMT
Damn... Jeane is pretty scary Also, i notice how the psychopomp said he was after his "quarry". Doesn't that refer to game animal? Presumably it refers to whatever soul he was going to collect at the time (hunting, so to speak). Considering that dead creatures tend to attract psychopomps, and that Jeanne probably kills a lot of various things, she probably has a pretty solid collection of dead psychopomps that she got as a "bonus" to something she already killed. Kinda morbid, but I'll bet that's what goes on. Edit: ninja'ed |
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Post by thedoctor on Feb 15, 2014 1:29:29 GMT
In all honesty, the funniest thing about this whole scenario is this; if the afterlife guides have known who Jeanne is for this long (or at least, ever since Annie told them) and apparently have permission to access the RotD archives, why didn't they? Sure, they may not get along too well (the ghosts and psychopomps that is), but it does look like Muut & co are getting Annie to do all the heavy-lifting. Again. Lazy bastards. ; apparently nobody knew her name (kinda scary to think about). Apparently you have to have that information to look someone up. They probably figured that anyone who found her name had a right/responsibility to follow the case through to its end. Also, seeing as Annie is a psychopomp, and that she does tend to take care of "hard cases," (the dispute over the boy, her own mother), this might actually be her jurisdiction. That's wildspec on my part, but it kind of fits. |
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