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Post by Nnelg on Jan 29, 2014 8:03:12 GMT
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Post by sapientcoffee on Jan 29, 2014 8:04:17 GMT
"Sands of Zanzibar! You see an office building?
"You don't?"
"I see a field - wild, overgrown, barbaric. Look over there! A feral rabbit."
"Seriously?"
"No, I see an office building."
Though it appears that in this case, perception DOES vary.
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Post by wynne on Jan 29, 2014 8:04:44 GMT
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Post by Gotolei on Jan 29, 2014 8:07:47 GMT
Annie's looking rather pink today.
Edit: also what's on the cabinet?
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Post by Nnelg on Jan 29, 2014 8:11:38 GMT
Yeah, so before I liked the idea that Annie just never got out much when she was younger, and thus was truly impressed by the cheap halloween props. But now it's looking like it's "relative reality" (a true oxymoron) after all.
I wonder if Kat actually has the more clear view of things, seeing straight through the smoke and mirrors to what's actually there...
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Post by hoskins88 on Jan 29, 2014 8:12:05 GMT
Hmmm, I am pretty sure now, that Kat is seeing the ROTD differently than Annie.
Now I'm wondering about the cause? Kats lack of etheric abilities? Is it more symbolic? Since Kat doesn't really believe in this stuff so she can only see a fake make believe world.
Also I wonder what Annie sees.
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Post by Nnelg on Jan 29, 2014 8:18:11 GMT
Hmmm, I am pretty sure now, that Kat is seeing the ROTD Differently than Annie. Now I'm wondering about the cause, Kats lack of etheric abilities or is it more symbolic, like since Kat doesn't really believe in this stuff, she can only see a fake make believe world. Also I wonder what Annie sees. Actually, I'm not certain Kat lacks them... Just that they're of a different form than Annie's, at least as much as Zimmy's are. Of course, again that's assuming that everything paranormal is the Ether. After all, we already have a solid counterexample with Jones, whom seems to have all the Etheric qualities of a rock... |
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Post by spritznar on Jan 29, 2014 8:32:18 GMT
although it also occurs to me that maybe annie and mort just thought the guy was a coat rack or something...
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Post by Señor Goose on Jan 29, 2014 8:35:46 GMT
Annie's looking rather pink today. You're right, her hair looks like Bubble-Yum in the last panel! |
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Post by Gotolei on Jan 29, 2014 8:44:12 GMT
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Post by sotha on Jan 29, 2014 8:45:16 GMT
Mort has some really good faces. Third panel, and the first and last.
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Post by snipertom on Jan 29, 2014 9:02:46 GMT
If this is how Kat perceives it...
...don't you reckon that RotD looks like both Grim Fandango and Hallowe'en as well as having gyspsyish elements, while the labyrinth with Mort in it looks like Pacman? In which case, the Grim Reaper/Destiny -esque entity could indeed be a reference to either Gaiman or Pratchett or both.
Totally typed 'either' as 'ether' just now!
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Post by Nnelg on Jan 29, 2014 9:12:53 GMT
I just noticed Mort blushing when pressed up against Annie trying to squeeze through the door.  (Appearantly Mort can't phase through walls. Come to think of it, I recall him using air vents to get around in the past...) |
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Post by Gulby on Jan 29, 2014 9:12:56 GMT
Edit: also what's on the cabinet? I think it's a paper thingie (don't know the word in french, so, in english...), to keep track of the books. Edit : I just noticed the little strip on the back of the guy's head. Wonder what is it for. And what does it does to pull it. Flamby ?  |
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Post by Gotolei on Jan 29, 2014 9:19:19 GMT
Edit: also what's on the cabinet? I think it's a paper thingie (don't know the word in french, so, in english...), to keep track of the books. Edit : I just noticed the little strip on the back of the guy's head. Wonder what is it for. And what does it does to pull it. Flamby ? Ah, a rolodex? Guess that makes sense. Also for the strip, looks like it's a tag and the guy's wearing a bedsheet.  |
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Post by keef on Jan 29, 2014 9:24:10 GMT
Edit: also what's on the cabinet? I think it's a paper thingie (don't know the word in french, so, in english...), to keep track of the books. you mean? I logged in just to ask that.. Edit: I'm slow today.. Also for the strip, looks like it's a tag and they guy's wearing a bedsheet. Oh, nice idea. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 29, 2014 9:47:49 GMT
Doesn't she know that a library usually starts with an index/search services? Kat clearly is a browsing and mousing type.  As was demonstrated in the Court's library. That got some pictures with tracks, by the way. I wonder if Kat actually has the more clear view of things, seeing straight through the smoke and mirrors to what's actually there... I doubt it, but noticing this one first goes to her credit. Then again, maybe Mort meant didn't count this one as a "guy"? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jan 29, 2014 9:51:40 GMT
Thank the blazes, all this cheesiness is in Kat's noggin.
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Post by philman on Jan 29, 2014 10:02:36 GMT
Edit : I just noticed the little strip on the back of the guy's head. Wonder what is it for. And what does it does to pull it. Flamby ? Hmm, someone should do an animation of that, pulling the strip and him collapsing like a creme caramel.... And so Kat IS seeing things differently, hmm. Are we assuming she is seeing the things that are really there? Or are the ROTD's enchantments designed to look impressive etherically, and so the REAL ROTD employees can hide in the "real" world without etheric beings seeing them? A bit like the way annie had to ask Muut had to make himself visible for Kat, as she couldn't see him naturally. Either that or the ROTD is supposed to look scary depending on the mind of the viewer, and Kat just HATES cheesy Halloween decorations. |
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Post by King Mir on Jan 29, 2014 11:12:01 GMT
It's not clear that she is seeing things differently. She just noticed the guy in the corner while the others didn't. So she may just be more observant.
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Post by philman on Jan 29, 2014 12:38:11 GMT
It's not clear that she is seeing things differently. She just noticed the guy in the corner while the others didn't. So she may just be more observant. The massive guy standing in the corner of a very small room, directly opposite the door? Just how unobservant ARE Annie and Mort? |
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Post by Intelligence on Jan 29, 2014 14:00:26 GMT
I wonder how long he has to stand there. Must get pretty tiring after awhile.
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 29, 2014 14:11:27 GMT
That is intriguing. This, in contrast to everything else, does not look cheesy at all...and Kat is the one who sees it as opposed to Mort and Annie - who seem to see nothing there.
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 29, 2014 14:23:14 GMT
I wonder how long he has to stand there. Must get pretty tiring after awhile. He's just standing there and thinking, "I'm so lonely. Mother was right. I should have been a poltergeist. But no! 'Library Science is a growth sector', I said, 'The Internet is a passing fad, like Disco.' Oo! Someone's coming in! Play it cool! Play it cool!... 'Can I help you?'- Nailed it!" I really hope we get to see how Annie is seeing it. Or maybe she is seeing the same things, but just the layers underneath, as well. It might be easy to lose a guy in all the noise. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Jan 29, 2014 14:25:58 GMT
Edit: also what's on the cabinet? I think it's a paper thingie (don't know the word in french, so, in english...), to keep track of the books. Others have pointed out that these are commonly called Rolodex, as that's the brand name that popularized the product (we've done the same with Xerox, Kleenex, and in some parts of the US, Coke). We otherwise have no name for this thing, and the generic term I've heard most often is 'card index.' |
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Post by King Mir on Jan 29, 2014 14:32:44 GMT
It's not clear that she is seeing things differently. She just noticed the guy in the corner while the others didn't. So she may just be more observant. The massive guy standing in the corner of a very small room, directly opposite the door? Just how unobservant ARE Annie and Mort? He's standing very still, and it's hard to say how dark it is. It's possible. |
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Post by khyron on Jan 29, 2014 14:34:38 GMT
Ok, after years of reading I finally had to create a forum account for speculation here.
None of this is looking like the "real Realm of the Dead" probably would in GC. I know some people are saying it's Kat's perception of it... but more accurate seeming to me is that it's Mort's coping mechanism.
He wasn't allowed to stay. He invented the ROTD to feel like he had permission to stay. This is just like the boy she first acted as spirit guide for, this is Mort's origin/death story illusion.
This chapter is going to lead no where in the search for Jeanne because it's all Mort's illusions. Whether it leads to Mort passing on into the ether will be a good question.
That's my theory. All of this reminds me so much of the kind of "scary realm of the dead" that Mort would have dreamt up before they started helping him be scarier.
Edit: In my theory the scary guy Mort & Annie didn't see is the first non-Mort generated thing in here, and would be the start of Mort's death being retold as with the "showing the little creature to Annie" was the earlier boy's death retelling.
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Post by Nnelg on Jan 29, 2014 14:45:49 GMT
Or maybe she is seeing the same things, but just the layers underneath, as well. It might be easy to lose a guy in all the noise. You (and most others) seem to make the implicit assumption that Annie's vision is superior to Kat's... When so far, everything seems to have been more clear to the latter. Right now, my guess is that Mort and Annie are seeing a ton of stuff which isn't actually there, as far as the word "actual" applies to such a situation. A spook show put on by the ROTD, maybe. But Kat literally sees right through that... And in the end, it's all just a cheep haunted house. |
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Post by philman on Jan 29, 2014 14:54:13 GMT
Ok, after years of reading I finally had to create a forum account for speculation here. None of this is looking like the "real Realm of the Dead" probably would in GC. I know some people are saying it's Kat's perception of it... but more accurate seeming to me is that it's Mort's coping mechanism. He wasn't allowed to stay. He invented the ROTD to feel like he had permission to stay. This is just like the boy she first acted as spirit guide for, this is Mort's origin/death story illusion. This chapter is going to lead no where in the search for Jeanne because it's all Mort's illusions. Whether it leads to Mort passing on into the ether will be a good question. That's my theory. All of this reminds me so much of the kind of "scary realm of the dead" that Mort would have dreamt up before they started helping him be scarier. Edit: In my theory the scary guy Mort & Annie didn't see is the first non-Mort generated thing in here, and would be the start of Mort's death being retold as with the "showing the little creature to Annie" was the earlier boy's death retelling. that's a really interesting theory actually, mort is one of the few characters that have had virtually no character development too. I assume the deal for helping ghosts move on is different from the boy Annie helped, but if they end up doing something like that for mort it would have interesting implications for jeanne. |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Jan 29, 2014 14:56:54 GMT
Clearly there is something going on here. I'm still clinging to my theory from a few threads backs: I'm wondering if what we're seeing isn't from Kat's perspective, and Annie is getting a different image, since she's more in tune with the ether. Kind of like an illusion that only some people are susceptible to. Both Kat and Annie can be seeing different things, and it's not that either one of them is wrong, per se, its just that they have difference kinds of vision. |
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As was demonstrated in the Court's library. That got some pictures with tracks, by the way.
