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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 18:51:51 GMT
Friends bitterly opposing each other, leading to mutual destruction, is something that I would not describe as beautiful or heartwrenching under any circumstance.
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Post by zimmyhoo on Nov 26, 2013 19:05:57 GMT
Friends bitterly opposing each other, leading to mutual destruction, is something that I would not describe as beautiful or heartwrenching under any circumstance. Ah, but it's a wonderful story, and if it's pulled off well, will be wonderful writing. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 26, 2013 19:11:30 GMT
Friends bitterly opposing each other, leading to mutual destruction, is something that I would not describe as beautiful or heartwrenching under any circumstance. Ah, but it's a wonderful story, and if it's pulled off well, will be wonderful writing. I have always suspected that the comic was trending toward that. In each treatise they are depicted as two halves of the same whole. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 26, 2013 19:14:30 GMT
Friends bitterly opposing each other, leading to mutual destruction, is something that I would not describe as beautiful or heartwrenching under any circumstance. If they start singing then it becomes opera. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 26, 2013 19:45:23 GMT
Well... Stories need conflict, or else they'd be boring. I don't ant Ysen to die though... |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 27, 2013 0:45:56 GMT
So, original post...since we seem to have larger exposure now on this thread, what do you all think? Is etheric-robot Kat possible?
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Post by zimmyhoo on Nov 27, 2013 0:59:31 GMT
So, original post...since we seem to have larger exposure now on this thread, what do you all think? Is hopscotch-underwear Kat possible? Huh? |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 27, 2013 1:19:33 GMT
So, original post...since we seem to have larger exposure now on this thread, what do you all think? Is hipster bird-Kat possible? This seems like a totally legit comment, no? Har har. Still, though, what does everyone think about etheric Kat? |
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Post by warrl on Nov 27, 2013 3:26:25 GMT
The fact that these two close friends will end up bitterly opposing each other, *neither by their own violation*, but as unwilling players in a game between Coyote and the Headmaster? My take on that theory: Irresistible force, meet immovable object. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 27, 2013 3:59:14 GMT
The fact that these two close friends will end up bitterly opposing each other, *neither by their own violation*, but as unwilling players in a game between Coyote and the Headmaster? My take on that theory: Irresistible force, meet immovable object. Sort of like a cat whose backside is buttered, then thrown out the window. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 27, 2013 6:20:16 GMT
My take on that theory: Irresistible force, meet immovable object. Sort of like a cat whose backside is buttered, then thrown out the window.  |
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 27, 2013 7:55:48 GMT
The fact that these two close friends will end up bitterly opposing each other, *neither by their own violation*, but as unwilling players in a game between Coyote and the Headmaster?, as well as the parallels that they hold for each other, and possibly Kat for Coyote (remember what the OP was, way way back there?) is heartwrenching but a beautiful story. Like I said, I really wish happy endings for everyone, but if you look at the evidence in the plot (my quote) - it's hardly a stretch by any means, I'm just stating what we see, not what we can infer - there's no way that I can see this ending well. To drop all the foreshadowing and write fluff is shoddy writing, and Tom would not do that. There's a dark plot ahead, I'm certain. I think there's also an inner thread to each of them that is pulling them to these directions, involuntarily, but not merely as pieces in headmaster's and coyote's plans. Right now, the conflict is building up according to the plans of these current antagonists, Headmaster and Coyote, and Kat and Annie don't even realize they are slowly being pulled apart to opposite sides. But I can see them ending up as the main players of this conflict in the end, and the original antagonists suffering badly in the course of action and even being overthrown from their current positions. There seems to be much uncontrollable in these two characters, and to me there is a fair and dramatically interesting possibility that they will precisely slip out of control of the current villains, massively cross the borders of the plans and cause mayhem way beyond anything that Headmaster and Coyote had imagined, turning their worlds - both of them - inside out. Something in these lines is what I think it might end up being. But so far that is just a dramatically seducing possibility in comic. I cannot possibly signal any particular cue in it that would justify conclusion that it would go that way. It is merely a feeling I get when looking at Divine, Kat's robot projects and Annie's growth into a serious force. It is, in fact, more Kat than Annie who makes me think they will go absolutely crazy, but this is Annie's story and I have no doubt in my mind that she is someone very special in this world and ends up playing a huge role, much bigger than part of other people's (or God's) plans. |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 27, 2013 7:56:51 GMT
Sort of like a cat whose backside is buttered, then thrown out the window. I thought the result was infinite power..? |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Nov 27, 2013 8:00:02 GMT
Sort of like a cat whose backside is buttered, then thrown out the window. You may have seen this, but just in case: There was a link here, it's gone now. (same as Gotolei's) ETA: DAMN YOU GOTOLEI! |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 27, 2013 8:07:23 GMT
You may have seen this, but just in case: There was a link here, it's gone now. (same as Gotolei's) ETA: DAMN YOU GOTOLEI! FEAR ME  lolwow XDI guess great minds think alike  |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 27, 2013 13:01:50 GMT
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Post by zimmyhoo on Nov 27, 2013 14:03:46 GMT
I wonder if Annie's going to be found either in or heading towards the forest. Hmm.
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 27, 2013 15:28:44 GMT
Sort of like a cat whose backside is buttered, then thrown out the window. Ha, that's the answer my friends came up with  |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 28, 2013 3:11:53 GMT
Ha, that's the answer my friends came up with I always thought that the universe would bend until the floor was touching both. Or bend the cat, for that matter. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 28, 2013 15:43:29 GMT
Ha, that's the answer my friends came up with I always thought that the universe would bend until the floor was touching both. Or bend the cat, for that matter. NO. NOW YOU'VE REMINDED ME OF THE BURNING CATS. |
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Post by zimmyhoo on Nov 29, 2013 16:44:03 GMT
Hey, I have something ontopic, will I be hung? Anyways, Coyote said that Gunnerkrigg Court was "man's attempt to become god", which everybody decided was entirely confusing - shucks, it's even the TvTropes quote - but if Kat does become worshiped by the robots, she will complete that prophecy, and not even metaphorically! Ironic that the most confusing line from GC may end up being the most straightforward.
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 29, 2013 17:15:00 GMT
No, but you will be tickled mercilessly. I agree that it's safe to assume that Kat is part of the goal the Court is trying to achieve. Now all that remains is to see how ether is involved in this god-hood process. Personally, I think it is because the robots have souls and exert influence on the ether, which as Tom said, has a reciprocal effect on the real world. If they believe Kat is a god, she becomes one. |
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Post by philman on Nov 29, 2013 18:05:02 GMT
Sort of like a cat whose backside is buttered, then thrown out the window. Hmm, Paz isn't going to be impressed at Kat when she finds out that's how her anti-grav machine works is she? |
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Post by zimmyhoo on Nov 29, 2013 19:29:50 GMT
No, but you will be tickled mercilessly. I agree that it's safe to assume that Kat is part of the goal the Court is trying to achieve. Now all that remains is to see how ether is involved in this god-hood process. Personally, I think it is because the robots have souls and exert influence on the ether, which as Tom said, has a reciprocal effect on the real world. If they believe Kat is a god, she becomes one. It is! That's why it's going to happen, but it's rather ironic that the Court's goal is being achieved by somebody it's not even aware of, seemingly. So how will they react to this? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 29, 2013 20:15:00 GMT
No, but you will be tickled mercilessly. I agree that it's safe to assume that Kat is part of the goal the Court is trying to achieve. Now all that remains is to see how ether is involved in this god-hood process. Personally, I think it is because the robots have souls and exert influence on the ether, which as Tom said, has a reciprocal effect on the real world. If they believe Kat is a god, she becomes one. It is! That's why it's going to happen, but it's rather ironic that the Court's goal is being achieved by somebody it's not even aware of, seemingly. So how will they react to this? Knowing any powerful human organization, they will first react with fear, and then they will attempt to control her. Assuming they don't know all of this already and have had Kat marked since birth. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 29, 2013 21:49:26 GMT
It is! That's why it's going to happen, but it's rather ironic that the Court's goal is being achieved by somebody it's not even aware of, seemingly. So how will they react to this? Knowing any powerful human organization, they will first react with fear, and then they will attempt to control her. And then they will be destroyed by a force they helplessly attempt to control. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 29, 2013 21:53:54 GMT
Knowing any powerful human organization, they will first react with fear, and then they will attempt to control her. And then they will be destroyed by a force they helplessly attempt to control. I still have my fingers crossed for an epic showdown. |
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Post by Per on Dec 1, 2013 17:54:09 GMT
And then they will be destroyed by a force they helplessly attempt to control. This scenario occurs in none of the animes, right |
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Post by zimmyhoo on Dec 2, 2013 5:26:17 GMT
And then they will be destroyed by a force they helplessly attempt to control. This scenario occurs in none of the animes, right Nil. |
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 6, 2013 11:53:36 GMT
I think this theory is great! One note though; I'm a sucker for happy endings, so my theory is going to be something along the lines of "Kat and Annie overcome the forces of their respective sides and forge a unified Court-Forest, as it was when the Court first grew from the Seed Bismuth." I appreciate tragedies literarily, and if Tom goes that way, it will be on par with some of the greatest writing ever, but I'm REALLY REALLY HOPING he doesn't do that.
Also, has Tom ever said how long this entire story is going to be?
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