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Post by Daedalus on Nov 4, 2013 2:03:15 GMT
No end. Any end. Whichever end you choose. You can either let our utter cosmic insignificance terrify you or motivate you. (or both) Good philosophy, that is. And, ehh, even if the eventual heat-death of the universe is inevitable, for now, the world continues to spin. Everyone has to find something to motivate themselves while that condition holds. |
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 4, 2013 5:51:13 GMT
Nah. The guides to not deal in electrical appliances. Are you trying to tell me that there's no Silicon Heaven? Preposterous! Where would all the calculators go? Just remember that android hell is a real place where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance. |
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Post by legion on Nov 4, 2013 8:57:29 GMT
No end. Any end. Whichever end you choose. You can either let our utter cosmic insignificance terrify you or motivate you. (or both) Good philosophy, that is. And, ehh, even if the eventual heat-death of the universe is inevitable, for now, the world continues to spin. Everyone has to find something to motivate themselves while that condition holds. If I remember correctly, recent LHC findings suggest our universe is in a meta-stable vacuum; if this is correct, it means all matter and energy as we know it will eventually be destroyed by a fast-expending bubble of true vacuum generated somewhere in a high-energy region of the universe, well before the heat death has a chance to happen. |
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Post by Gulby on Nov 4, 2013 11:23:51 GMT
The souls are given to the living creatures by their god(s). At least, it is how I understand things (and that's probably why Surma could not be claimed by a psychopomp : she gave her soul, litteraly, to her child). So robots, as they are created by simple humans, have no souls. Yet. But once again, now that Kat is some kind of angel for the robots, and as Coyote said (paraphrase) that he exists only because someone started to believe he's a god someday, and now Kat is trying to create an androïd, I guess we could see that as "giving a soul" to her robotic creations. Because robots think she's some sort of deity AND because she's trying to approach the human being through her creations.
That makes sense. Totally. And sorry for the poor english.
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Post by zuullancemaster on Nov 4, 2013 17:22:06 GMT
Oh wow! You really did your research. This is so awesome. I tip my hat to you, good sir! =) I don't want to go off-topic, but how do you know all this? Are you an engineer? Just a bit curious. nope not an engineer, I just like to study the sciences. I have a broad field of studies I'm interested in. basically everything interests me, if not for the knowledge then for the entertainment. the internet helps make research faster and easier too, though I end up sifting out a lot of junk info too. My interests cover everything from quantum physics chemistry, biology, architecture, Astronomy, computers and technology. Technology, Quantum, and astronomy being my favorites. I also study fictional sciences such as arcana, magic, and how such concepts would work in their perspective universes. I am also religious, but from a scientific level. Pure science[proven facts] and Pure Religion[revelation] should never contradict the other if there is a contradiction, which is the fallacy? the revelation, proving it isn't a revelation, and rendering it a falsehood invented by man. currently trying to flesh out a personal theory of gravity and space-time. That is truly awesome. And finally, someone who gets that science and religion don't have to conflict! When you complete that theory will you post it online? I would love to read it. |
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Post by Kuraimizu on Nov 4, 2013 21:38:52 GMT
That is truly awesome. And finally, someone who gets that science and religion don't have to conflict! When you complete that theory will you post it online? I would love to read it. Eventually, I have explained it to a number of people. the problem is how to write it as an Essay or Thesis. when I have discussed it I find myself going onto many side tangents, mainly for the purpose of keeping the audience on the same page I'm on. Tangents don't do so well when writing an ordered essay. I also need to create a number of images to help illustrate the ideas. it's a large project and a constantly evolving work in progress. Planning to release it as a youtube video maybe. or Maybe, I would like to present it to a TED convention www.ted.com/if they ever do a convention in my City of Calgary. I think the best way would be to teach the Tangents first and then the main body of the theory afterwards. |
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Post by zuullancemaster on Nov 4, 2013 22:14:31 GMT
Eventually, I have explained it to a number of people. the problem is how to write it as an Essay or Thesis. when I have discussed it I find myself going onto many side tangents, mainly for the purpose of keeping the audience on the same page I'm on. Tangents don't do so well when writing an ordered essay. I also need to create a number of images to help illustrate the ideas. it's a large project and a constantly evolving work in progress. Planning to release it as a youtube video maybe. or Maybe, I would like to present it to a TED convention www.ted.com/if they ever do a convention in my City of Calgary. I think the best way would be to teach the Tangents first and then the main body of the theory afterwards. That would be a really cool Ted talk. I look forward to the video/paper! |
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Post by warrl on Nov 4, 2013 22:33:50 GMT
the problem is how to write it as an Essay or Thesis. when I have discussed it I find myself going onto many side tangents, mainly for the purpose of keeping the audience on the same page I'm on. Tangents don't do so well when writing an ordered essay. Try doing it as a set of web pages. Your various tangents go on separate pages, all tied together via links. It's called "hypermedia" and the concept predates the web by quite some times. In fact the very words "hypertext" and "hypermedia" (referring to this sort of assemblage of linked documents) were coined in 1963 by writer Ted Nelson, and the first formal proposal for what became the Web (subset of the internet) didn't come out until 1989. The ideas, though, go back a lot further, as what some people regard as the first hypertext story was published in 1941 by the Spanish write Jorje Borges. |
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Post by Kuraimizu on Nov 5, 2013 17:07:53 GMT
Not a bad idea. though hardly compact enough.
it would increase the storage size needed for the medium.
was thinking along the lines of a short intro, then explaining
each of the tangents in turn, before diving into the body of the
problem. The preface might end up being more a quick lesson on
the history of thought in the field of Quantum science and elementary physics.
less of an essay, it might become a book.
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 6, 2013 3:02:42 GMT
Not a bad idea. though hardly compact enough. it would increase the storage size needed for the medium. was thinking along the lines of a short intro, then explaining each of the tangents in turn, before diving into the body of the problem. The preface might end up being more a quick lesson on the history of thought in the field of Quantum science and elementary physics. less of an essay, it might become a book. Send me a copy when you write it. Though some 3D thought-map programs on the web might work better. (Don't even thing of arguing that they're 2D on a computer screen  ) |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 6, 2013 3:06:01 GMT
I actually have this theory that Jones is one of Kat's future creation's and that Jones was sent back in time to do a broad scale study of history. It occurs to me that there would be a lot of knowledge inherent in Jones' makeup, and revealing that knowledge (or her knowledge of history) *before she is made* would introduce lots of possibilities for paradox. Therefore she is secretive about her knowledge, and neither she nor anyone else can discern her internal makeup (which requires that she be quite indestructible). When Kat makes her (assuming your theory is true), she will embed a complex unlock code word/pattern/situation, and then (after sending the newly-made Jones back in time) apply it to the "old" Jones. Of course, this also requires a time machine. Quandary: how you you prove that you're the original inventor of a time machine that can send things into the past? (Maybe your great-great-great-grandchild will actually invent it and send you the plans, meaning that YOU are not the original inventor and your g^3-grandchild is merely copying prior art.) Time travel is fiction's way of saying 'f*** you, logic' This would make Jones a 'living' ontological paradox. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 6, 2013 3:13:04 GMT
Travel to the future is theoretically possible. The farthest a human has gone "into the future" is 20 milliseconds, which was accumulated by a Russian Cosmonaut through time dilation from working the stretch shift on the Mir, hurtling around the earth at thousands of miles an hour relative to us.
I doubt he notices it in daily life.
Travel to the past however... science is fuzzy on that at the moment. It presents difficulties.
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Post by legion on Nov 6, 2013 8:53:02 GMT
Travel to the future is happening right now, everyone is traveling to the future at the speed of one second per second.
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 6, 2013 16:29:12 GMT
Travel to the future is happening right now, everyone is traveling to the future at the speed of one second per second. Of course I love messing around with time travel and paradox theories, though they often confuse the hell out of me. |
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Post by Kuraimizu on Nov 6, 2013 17:09:55 GMT
I love messing around with time travel and paradox theories, though they often confuse the hell out of me. Then you'll love this. This is a map of Time, Navigating One instance of time travel to the past and a return to the present or future. in the paradoxical reality where you didn't time travel, but a version of you arrived in the past, and lived there till arriving back at the present day, leaving two of you, but an alternate time line had a version of you in the past return to the future, meaning there is paradoxical reality where there is three of you and your time clones are both older than you biologically. Sorry about the quality I drew it on a chalk board. |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 6, 2013 17:24:54 GMT
I love messing around with time travel and paradox theories, though they often confuse the hell out of me. Then you'll love this. This is a map of Time, Navigating One instance of time travel to the past and a return to the present or future. in the paradoxical reality where you didn't time travel, but a version of you arrived in the past, and lived there till arriving back at the present day, leaving two of you, but an alternate time line had a version of you in the past return to the future, meaning there is paradoxical reality where there is three of you and your time clones are both older than you biologically. Sorry about the quality I drew it on a chalk board. Why would you apologize about that? Chalkboards are awesome  |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 6, 2013 18:34:10 GMT
But that sound...
Urgh, makes me cringe. I am one of the people that does not mourn the invention of the whiteboard.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Nov 6, 2013 18:43:23 GMT
Travel to the future is happening right now, everyone is traveling to the future at the speed of one second per second. And the road outside my front door is traveling at 5280 feet per mile. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 6, 2013 19:33:08 GMT
But that sound... Urgh, makes me cringe. I am one of the people that does not mourn the invention of the whiteboard. It's odd to say I've never heard the sound of anything on chalkboard besides chalk and that weird eraser thing that I don't have the name for, but nevertheless true. The bits of floating chalk did make a few teacher's lungs flood, so I guess the whiteboard is a good thing. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 6, 2013 19:33:57 GMT
Travel to the future is happening right now, everyone is traveling to the future at the speed of one second per second. And the road outside my front door is traveling at 5280 feet per mile. 3 cheers for the illogical! |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 6, 2013 23:23:35 GMT
But that sound... Urgh, makes me cringe. I am one of the people that does not mourn the invention of the whiteboard. I've never heard the sound of anything on chalkboard besides chalk That's precisely the problem. I don't know why, but that granular crunch, and especially the cracking when the chalk is applied too hard just makes me want to cover my ears. Don't get me started on the people who drag their fingernails across it. *shudder* |
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Post by Kuraimizu on Nov 7, 2013 17:52:04 GMT
I've never heard the sound of anything on chalkboard besides chalk That's precisely the problem. I don't know why, but that granular crunch, and especially the cracking when the chalk is applied too hard just makes me want to cover my ears. Don't get me started on the people who drag their fingernails across it. *shudder* fingernails across the chalkboard or a nail across the chalkboard, not good for the paint Not good for the ears either |
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Post by GK Sierra on Nov 7, 2013 19:31:31 GMT
That's precisely the problem. I don't know why, but that granular crunch, and especially the cracking when the chalk is applied too hard just makes me want to cover my ears. Don't get me started on the people who drag their fingernails across it. *shudder* fingernails across the chalkboard or a nail across the chalkboard, not good for the paint Not good for the ears either As long as all your Paragraphs are short and square They should be haikus |
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Post by warrl on Nov 7, 2013 20:13:27 GMT
fingernails across the chalkboard or a nail across the chalkboard, not good for the paint Not good for the ears either As long as all your Paragraphs are short and square They should be haikus That's sonnet bad a challenge, writing such restricted short encapsulations of your thoughts. But making it a rule? Too much, monotonous. Oh, I, for one, would love to see more often something quite poetic. Myself, I'm not at all averse to verse. But when the poet's forcing, stressed, frenetic the quality will surely get far worse. If prose is how ideas come unforced, then let prose be. Far better freely flowing unshackled text than form-bound words divorced from normal speech, a Bullwer-Lytton growing. Sure, test yourself with verse forms learned in school. But let's refrain from making such a rule. edit: two corrections to the meter |
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Post by Kuraimizu on Nov 7, 2013 23:25:41 GMT
Bravo Warrl, Bravo.
but really I only keep them short for quick reading.
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Post by thedoctor on Nov 8, 2013 5:25:52 GMT
Bravo Warrl, Bravo. but really I only keep them short for quick reading. I hate to be picky, but I kind of find it a little bit distracting. I understand the idea behind it, but I'm just used to words taking up most of whatever page I'm viewing. I think the only real reason it's a problem for me is because I read really fast, and having to stop and start a new line before my eyes "expect" to is a little bit jarring; throws of the "flow" of my reading. But that's just me; it's entirely possible that it makes it easier for most people to read. |
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Post by warrl on Nov 8, 2013 6:03:18 GMT
Bravo Warrl, Bravo. but really I only keep them short for quick reading. I hate to be picky, but I kind of find it a little bit distracting. I understand the idea behind it, but I'm just used to words taking up most of whatever page I'm viewing. I think the only real reason it's a problem for me is because I read really fast, and having to stop and start a new line before my eyes "expect" to is a little bit jarring; throws of the "flow" of my reading. But that's just me; it's entirely possible that it makes it easier for most people to read. thedoctor thinks short lines are jarring, distracting, attention-span marring but kuraimizu's screed: they're quicker to read some wish the two would just stop sparring |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 8, 2013 7:16:27 GMT
I hate to be picky, but I kind of find it a little bit distracting. I understand the idea behind it, but I'm just used to words taking up most of whatever page I'm viewing. I think the only real reason it's a problem for me is because I read really fast, and having to stop and start a new line before my eyes "expect" to is a little bit jarring; throws of the "flow" of my reading. But that's just me; it's entirely possible that it makes it easier for most people to read. thedoctor thinks short lines are jarring, distracting, attention-span marring but kuraimizu's screed: they're quicker to read some wish the two would just stop sparring This random poetry is going to be a thing, isn't it. [TotallyFineWithSituation.png] Personally I kind of find the short lines and huge swath of whitespace a bit conspicuous as well, but it's just something one needs to get used to. Eventually I guess you just don't notice it after a while. |
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Post by fishtie on Nov 8, 2013 8:35:40 GMT
When one poster writes paragraphs shortly,
others wish to make theirs seem courtly.
But with posts on the rise,
with such unusual size,
that now this whole page looks quite portly.
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Post by thedoctor on Nov 8, 2013 11:25:03 GMT
When one poster writes paragraphs shortly, others wish to make theirs seem courtly. But with posts on the rise, with such unusual size, that now this whole page looks quite portly. +1 Internets for using the word portly in a blog post! (and in a poem as well; a limerick no less!) |
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