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Post by sidhekin on Oct 7, 2013 12:15:09 GMT
By the way, did you guys notice that she still has her scar as an elemental? At least I'm pretty sure that's what the flame coming from her left cheek is. I didn't, and I'm not 100% convinced that it is the scar. There are flames coming from just above her eyebrows, so a scar is not required. But the flame under her left eye is there in both panels, and pretty much in the same position as the scar, which seems to make a coincidence pretty improbable, so I'll say: Nice catch! |
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Post by goldenknots on Oct 7, 2013 12:35:12 GMT
Her face looks quite similar to the mask that she's holding in the sequence where Zimmy is trying to help her come back from whatever it was that was going on with her in Divine, Chapter 38.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 7, 2013 13:13:39 GMT
Anyway, I think it's pretty. .  EDIT: Sweet catch: if members of that 'army' haven't seen a fire elemental before, odds are they never saw her mother, either. "Seen 'em before". But otherwise, yes. By the way, did you guys notice that she still has her scar as an elemental? At least I'm pretty sure that's what the flame coming from her left cheek is. It's hard to tell whether it's different from other flames, but in the end that's her etheric side manifests visibly, so... why not? Her face looks quite similar to the mask that she's holding in the sequence where Zimmy is trying to help her come back from whatever it was that was going on with her in Divine, Chapter 38. And in the hypothetical flashback from Coyote, when Antimony finally was finally told about this little insignificant detail. Crown was also present. |
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 7, 2013 13:24:05 GMT
Yeah, I've noticed that. I'm not sure, if it's a repeated style choice or an actual etheric crown. My bet is art style. In a recent panel, it's with normal Annie while she's emoting. |
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Post by exdevlin on Oct 7, 2013 13:32:01 GMT
Yeah, I've noticed that. I'm not sure, if it's a repeated style choice or an actual etheric crown. My bet is art style. In a recent panel, it's with normal Annie while she's emoting. I actually thought the crown and the line down the middle of her face were just stylistic choices for the hypothetical flashback (abstract shapes and colour blocking), but now I see they are actually literal features of fire elementals. I am liking this very much. It's like a throwback to how humourous cartoons always render ancient Egyptians to be literally how they are represented in their art, even though the art is clearly just a stylized choice of the time. Fire elemental Annie reminds me quite a bit of Adventure Time's Flame Princess. By the way, did you guys notice that she still has her scar as an elemental? At least I'm pretty sure that's what the flame coming from her left cheek is. FLAME PRINCESS! And I'm not sure that's really the scar showing up yet, even though it looks like the flame is wrapping around a *something* that is disturbing its smooth flow, whether it's there to accentuate the shape of the cheek, or the scar. Must.. do.. fan art... |
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Post by darlos9d on Oct 7, 2013 14:25:05 GMT
It's not even her final form. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 7, 2013 14:48:11 GMT
Fire elemental Annie reminds me quite a bit of Adventure Time's Flame Princess. By the way, did you guys notice that she still has her scar as an elemental? At least I'm pretty sure that's what the flame coming from her left cheek is. Good call! It's not conclusive, but the position is perfect for it. |
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 7, 2013 14:49:36 GMT
Talking about Flame Princess from Adventure Time inspired me to think up my own crazy fan theory for Annie's origin. See, we know of course that Annie is descended from fire elementals and that these fire elementals are associated with crowns of flame. We don't know what these crowns mean, but here's my thought: what if the crown isn't associated with fire elementals, but rather with Annie's ancestral fire elemental family? What if Annie is actually a royal descendant of some kingdom of fire elementals?
So, yeah. I don't believe there's any proof for or against this theory, and it is admittedly rather far-fetched and stupid, but that crown has been bugging me for some time, and this is a pretty fun explanation for it I think.
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Post by descoladavirus on Oct 7, 2013 15:00:43 GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Yak..especially since it seems to be a Yak covered in trees.
Tree-Yak!
Admiring Tom's creations aside I'm pretty sure from what we've seen of fire elementals (and what's been hinted at by Coyote), and even observing Surma's flashbacks. I think its likely that Annie has a lot more control over her fire elemental nature than Surma. I'd like to point out that she didn't fully transform, seeing as she still has facial features, which fire elementals seem to lack. All in all, it should be pretty interesting to see how Ysengrin and Annie both feel about this. It's one thing to know you're powerful, its quite another thing to use that power to make an unstoppable tree-wolf and subjugate a bunch of forest creature thugs.
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Post by Per on Oct 7, 2013 15:05:18 GMT
(bridge) Wooh, full fire elemental form Did we know she could do this? Did she know she could do this? (chorus) Can she even do this? Is it just an illusion? Did she basically just blinkerstone herself on fire? (<- That'd be badass too) Anyway, I think it's pretty. (Yeah, that'd be badass too, woo oo oo) (Really pretty, woo) (repeat chorus) (Woo) |
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Post by magniras on Oct 7, 2013 16:09:28 GMT
What exactly did Zimmy free there? |
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Post by keef on Oct 7, 2013 16:54:13 GMT
'strong'. Ysengrin will be pleased to hear that.
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Post by philman on Oct 7, 2013 17:09:29 GMT
Nice.
and with regard to people saying she is stronger then Ysengrin. I would say it is more that if you come from a forest, the one thing you fear the most would probably be fire.
For some reason I'm reminded of the scene near the end of the Jungle book when Mowgli ties a burning branch to Shere Khan's tail, causing him to run off.
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Post by Toloc on Oct 7, 2013 17:23:46 GMT
(bridge) Wooh, full fire elemental form Did we know she could do this? Did she know she could do this? (chorus) Can she even do this? Is it just an illusion? Did she basically just blinkerstone herself on fire? (<- That'd be badass too) Anyway, I think it's pretty. (Yeah, that'd be badass too, woo oo oo) (Really pretty, woo) (repeat chorus) (Woo) Damn, that cracked me up.  Oh lord. What have I done? Gotta admit it's got a really nice ring to it. |
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Post by Covalent on Oct 7, 2013 17:34:40 GMT
Okayyyy, I do NOT think we're looking at Annie any longer.
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Post by Lightice on Oct 7, 2013 18:10:00 GMT
Okayyyy, I do NOT think we're looking at Annie any longer. Don't judge a book by its cover. I'm fairly certain that Annie is just putting up a show for the Forest folk, here. |
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Post by Covalent on Oct 7, 2013 18:10:59 GMT
Okayyyy, I do NOT think we're looking at Annie any longer. Don't judge a book by its cover. I'm fairly certain that Annie is just putting up a show for the Forest folk, here. Ah, so there's no reason to suggest the elemental's taken over? |
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Post by meltea on Oct 7, 2013 18:30:40 GMT
Don't judge a book by its cover. I'm fairly certain that Annie is just putting up a show for the Forest folk, here. Ah, so there's no reason to suggest the elemental's taken over? The elemental is part of her. I don't see it taking over, it's not like it's a different person behind the fires. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Oct 7, 2013 18:33:31 GMT
Well, is there any reason to suggest that Annie and the elemental are separate people?
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Post by wanderer on Oct 7, 2013 18:47:18 GMT
Annie is still Annie. She's simply using her own power, it's not like there's a different being inside her that she's calling on. Annie is a hybrid of human and fire elemental, but that doesn't make her two separate beings. She is still 100% Annie.
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Post by helicopter on Oct 7, 2013 18:55:44 GMT
I wonder how far back in Annie's lineage the fire elemental goes, and if the elemental was from Gillitie Wood. Did that fire elemental die when its offspring grew strong, like Surma did? Are all the members of this lineage female? Did Surma's mother (or father) reside at the court? Maybe Surma arrived under the same circumstances that Annie did.
I dunno, man! Just some thoughts that popped in my head when I saw this page.
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Post by carasanathema on Oct 7, 2013 19:00:48 GMT
I don't get the sense that tapping into her fire elemental side negated the rest of her...she's not acting possessed, or disassociated, or saying something she wouldn't have said normally. The "if you have need of a medium" bit sounded all Antimony to me.
The fire crown always seemed to me to just be a representation of fire itself, like how the elemental figure is standing in it in the Coyote flashback. The points of the crown just represent flames. But the thought of fire elemental royalty sounds cooler than my theory. :-)
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Post by exuberancium on Oct 7, 2013 19:09:28 GMT
I wonder how much of this is her psychic powers that other people can do and how much is natural ability from her fire elemental heritage.
Actually, I wonder if a blinker stone even actually normally allows for firestarting at all or if it just augments the pyrokinesis she already had.
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Post by foresterr on Oct 7, 2013 19:31:58 GMT
Wow, if someone managed to de-bubblify that second panel, it would make one swanky avatar!
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Post by sidhekin on Oct 7, 2013 19:45:06 GMT
Actually, I wonder if a blinker stone even actually normally allows for firestarting at all or if it just augments the pyrokinesis she already had. Red and (not-yet-named-but-we'll-call-her) Blue seemed to think it did: "It's kinda cold out."But then, they might have been aware she has pyrokinesis. Just never realized Annie didn't know and/or that it was worth mentioning ... |
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Post by myzelf on Oct 7, 2013 20:19:10 GMT
Antimony's looking pretty hot lately.
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Post by Toloc on Oct 7, 2013 20:54:15 GMT
Wow, if someone managed to de-bubblify that second panel, it would make one swanky avatar! Seconded. But I think there's too much detail covered up by the bubble to make it an avatar without getting a version without bubble directly from Tom. |
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Post by chrisjenl1 on Oct 7, 2013 21:04:35 GMT
That's hars to hear that no one trusted you because your mother played a trick on them
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Post by sotha on Oct 7, 2013 22:07:30 GMT
Fire elemental Annie reminds me quite a bit of Adventure Time's Flame Princess. By the way, did you guys notice that she still has her scar as an elemental? At least I'm pretty sure that's what the flame coming from her left cheek is. Hmm, that's an interesting though. It's like she's bleeding fire. Fire, her life's blood... |
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Post by keef on Oct 7, 2013 22:20:29 GMT
Just an attempt.  Just don't look to closely  |
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