Pig_catapult
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Post by Pig_catapult on Jul 16, 2013 0:04:35 GMT
I'm getting the impression that Hetty might not be delusional, per se, but rather may be operating on a distinctly non-human moral/ethical compass, in the style of darker interpretations of "the fair folk".
Or she could just be an evil, evil thing trapped in a doll. But I'm far too fond of alien psychologies and the blue-and-orange-morality trope to hope it's that simple.
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Post by KMar on Jul 16, 2013 0:30:08 GMT
Long time lurker, First time poster. I Find it interesting that in the last panel, right next to her symbol, her head/skin is cracked. At the least its a nice little artistic detail. If it has no meaning. It means something. Her face is more colorless than before and we can see her symbol now plus her porcelain is cracking, so my bet is Renard's not the only one with two different forms and that Hetty's about to show us hers. But the question is: do we have to show her ours? I noticed the crack, too. I'd speculate that maybe it could be a symbol for how Hetty... seems not to be sane?( *ponders if 'symbol' is a correct word* ...'a visual cue' any better?) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 16, 2013 1:12:08 GMT
I'm getting the impression that Hetty might not be delusional, per se, but rather may be operating on a distinctly non-human moral/ethical compass, in the style of darker interpretations of "the fair folk". Or she could just be an evil, evil thing trapped in a doll. But I'm far too fond of alien psychologies and the blue-and-orange-morality trope to hope it's that simple. Is Hetty's dialogue that of a creature foreign to human notions of life and suffering and power and appearance? Or is it more like the unleashed id of someone too young to understand the deeper implications and ramifications of those things, someone who is lacking any guidance or guardrails? It might be that she's a body-jumper and her current form is dictating her mentality but when I reread this chapter I think, "BRAT."  |
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Post by htown on Jul 16, 2013 1:34:11 GMT
"And for this, I shall have my revenge... And my freedom"
How will she have her freedom? Is she planning on murdering Adam? How would she break the contract?
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Post by KMar on Jul 16, 2013 1:35:21 GMT
Young enough that she thought leaving her doll to her brother was a good idea and something he could want. So I have trouble believing she was older than a child. But if she knew Hetty was a demon in porcelain clothing, surely she would make sure to leave her to someone else. Not necessarily, there are several possible reasons. Maybe she didn't meant to leave her to Adam, but wrote in her diary "...and if I die accidentally, the ownership of the evil demon toy known as 'Hetty' will transfer to my nearest blood relative" and she thought that person would be somebody else. Or she thought that Hetty couldn't actually manage to kill her with her so called 'pranks', and therefore she thought that Adam would be older and more capable dealing with Hetty when he would end up being her/its master. Or maybe Adam got Hetty in other purely coincidental way: One wild guess. Adam seems to be, what, about 10+ years old now? One fine day, years before when this chapter is taking place, then his 10-15 year old sister writes in her diary (maybe long before Hetty-the-Spirit ends up being stuck in Hetty-the-Doll) something along these lines "...it's not fair, (then ~4-5 year old) Adam is always complaining about how all the other boys have fancy toys he doesn't have, and then Mum and Dad buy him new shiny, expensive toys. When I was of his age, I didn't get any new toys! I was stuck up playing with this old boring <Hetty-the-Doll>, I wish <Hetty-the-Doll> would be Adam's torment after me." Okay, maybe teen-aged girls don't write like that, but I hope you get the point. She writes something that she thinks is perfectly ingenuous. Then years pass, and when she don't ever remember writing that particular diary note, and Hetty-the-Spirit is trapped inside her old worthless doll... "And for this, I shall have my revenge... And my freedom" How will she have her freedom? Is she planning on murdering Adam? How would she break the contract? I think it (thar she plans murdering Adam) is being heavily implied. |
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Post by Max on Jul 16, 2013 7:05:08 GMT
How would she break the contract? I'm guessing that if the owner is killed and doesn't explicitly transfer ownership to someone else, the contract of ownership is broken. |
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Post by lunarluminesce on Jul 16, 2013 7:38:15 GMT
Actually, it seems to me that Hetty was the one who caused the 'accident', and she's to blame for Adam's sister's death. In order to free herself from the contract, which the sister actually left to Adam. When I see your posts I mistake them for my own. It's quite troublesome. xD Haha! The same happens with me. Our avatars complement each other. Or maybe Xan is right, and we're two sides of the same person...hmm... Well, theoretically the sister could have been in her twenties, which would make it slightly more OK. Young enough that she thought leaving her doll to her brother was a good idea and something he could want. So I have trouble believing she was older than a child. It's also possible that if the contract was broken, the terror that would be unleashed would be unspeakable. She's dangerous as a doll, and would probably be even more dangerous on her own. Maybe Adam was the only one his sister knew who could deal with her for sure, or the doll could only be passed on to relatives etc. She probably didn't think she would end up dying, and so didn't explain about Hetty to her brother. Giving her to him in her diary was just a precaution. |
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Post by bansheekitty on Jul 16, 2013 15:56:16 GMT
Everything has a meaning in this comic  If she is an old doll,a lot of girls will heave played with her pretending or believing she is a real person. According to Coyote she might then come to life. OK wild guess.. Or maybe it's like that episode of Supernatural where the hair on the little girl's doll was her actual hair (the doll was modeled after her), and after she died her spirit was linked to it. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 16, 2013 16:07:36 GMT
How will she have her freedom? Two words: lighter fluid. BURN THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN HETTY, BURN IT ALL DOWN!!!  |
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Post by tpman on Jul 16, 2013 18:41:46 GMT
It looks like Hetty's using that expression because she blames Adam for his sister's death. I doubt that it's justified, though. But now I wonder; how Renard can seemingly know Hetty so well, but still know nothing about her circumstances? Has she been completely evasive about her ownership deal before, or did they previously meet when Adam's sister was still alive? You know what would be really creepy? If Hetty had been just an ordinary doll before the sister left it to Adam in her diary, and that somehow bound a part of her soul into it at the moment of her death, but not her actual memories of what happened. They probably just assumed that the other's situation ore or less matched up with their own. Hetty figures Renard plans to Kill Annie eventually, and Renard figured Hetty was just talking big. |
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 16, 2013 18:50:44 GMT
Y'know, good or evil or otherwise, one thing is for sure: Hetty is adorable perched up there on Renard's head.
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Post by tpman on Jul 16, 2013 18:55:17 GMT
I have two big questions bout Hetty:
What was her relationship with Adam's sister? Hetty seems annoyed that Adam is moving on, but that could just be Hetty's attempt to rationalize her actions. I figure the "accident" was either Hetty or the boy's doing (probably Hetty).
Why hasn't she killed Adam yet? Does she want to savour torturing him? Is her goal to punish Adam? Is she too afraid to go through with it? Did she figure she needed the right supplies first? Does she want to make sure that killing him would actually free her first?
Oooh I hope Annie's command not to stay out late doesn't prevent Rey from taking action.
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Post by lunarluminesce on Jul 16, 2013 19:35:42 GMT
Oooh I hope Annie's command not to stay out late doesn't prevent Rey from taking action. Darn, I didn't even think of that! It would be terrible. |
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Post by panther on Jul 16, 2013 23:38:07 GMT
Y'know, good or evil or otherwise, one thing is for sure: Hetty is adorable perched up there on Renard's head. I came to this thread just to say that. Hetty gets steadily more terrifying with every page, but just look at the ways she's clutching Renard's ears! Awwwww :) |
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Post by kagredon on Jul 17, 2013 1:40:41 GMT
He's what? ten? It's kinda hard to say. He is the "little brother" of a girl who has both had a porcelain doll and writes a diary, both usually associated with younger girls. It'd be possible that the whole thing went down years ago. Depending on if she actually is his sister or not, that would be either extremely tragic and sad or incredibly disturbing. I think we can assume both Adam and his sister were already at the Court when this happened (reasonable, because otherwise how would Hetty manage to come to the Court without him knowing about her? Unless she specifically took measures to follow him there, which is even creepier), which means the age gap can't be too dramatic (unless his sister was much older and on the staff, which would raise its own set of questions.) Which raises further questions about how a teenage girl came into possession of Hetty, if we assume that Hetty already existed and was "owned" by the sister, and not created by her death in some way. |
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Post by Señor Goose on Jul 19, 2013 4:52:13 GMT
Y'know, good or evil or otherwise, one thing is for sure: Hetty is adorable perched up there on Renard's head.  |
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If she is an old doll,a lot of girls will heave played with her pretending or believing she is a real person. According to Coyote she might then come to life. OK wild guess.. 
