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Post by louisxiv on Nov 8, 2013 19:10:18 GMT
Woah I'd totally forgotten that there was a Kiss tag!! HOW COULD I FORGET?! Too overwhelmed by the cute maybe? If there will be a lot of links might we want to discuss a standard format? Maybe a {GW} for Gunnerkrigg Wiki, as the actual link text? I’m assuming you’re wanting to link tags to expanded articles on the GW? I haven't looked at the GW for a while, does it link back to the index at all? Hmm, not from the quick links box on the front page anyway. |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 8, 2013 20:23:52 GMT
Haven't tested this much..how well-implemented is the dialog? One thing I like about comics like xkcd is even if you only know a few key words out of the page it'll come up. Don’t have the full dialogue text from the comic on line, I'm afraid. We just try to have a significant phrase from the page, or Tom’s commentary, to try to bring the page to mind for browsing readers. Misfile has a database of dialogue: search for a word or phrase and up pops a set of links to the pages where it occurs, the full line and who said it. Unfortunately it only gets updated infrequently (as far as I can tell the last update was Feb 2013). Misfile obsessives swear by it though, me included. I think the use of a db was to avert the copyright concerns about having all of the Misfile text on line, in clear – a searchable source probably makes it “fair use” as academic research under US law (though correct me if I’m wrong on that point, someone). It would be a lot simpler just to type up the text into a flat page(s) format with a bit of Index page style tagging and linking. (Aside: I wonder if a dialogue db could be made into a TiddlyWiki?) |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 0:54:50 GMT
Woah I'd totally forgotten that there was a Kiss tag!! HOW COULD I FORGET?! Too overwhelmed by the cute maybe? aw shucks you got me thar! I was thinking of using _{wiki}_ or something similar since it's obvious what it is (and relatively short)? And I can certainly edit the wiki to link back to us  EDIT: IT HAS BEEN DONE. |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 3:45:20 GMT
Here's a suggestion - could there be a favicon? I like having iconized bookmarks  |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 9, 2013 9:40:33 GMT
Here's a suggestion - could there be a favicon? I like having iconized bookmarks :P Of course. But as I'm a bit fishy at graphic stuff (completely carp you might say) I'll take entries: ROLL UP!
ROLL UP!
Try your hand
in a
GRAND COMPETITION
of
ARTISTIC SKILL
and
GRAPHICAL CUNNING
Yes!
FAME and FORTUNE
shall attend the
LUCKY WINNER
of the
Index to Gunnerkrigg Court
FAVICON OPEN
The Winner to be determined by the
JUDGMENT of your PEERS,
the gentle readers of the
Searchable Database of Comics
Topic, following a suitable
EXHIBITION
of any and all contenders
in the said Topic
(or bids of £500 in used fivers to The Organiser)
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 10:03:21 GMT
All that's missing is the Playbill font and it would be perfect  Here's my go at it. Might be a bit hard to differentiate from the webcomic itself though:  #2, this one with a kind of glassy-looking part? meh I dunno:  #3: generic search thing using site colors, I dunno again:  |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 15:07:35 GMT
I think they're very nice!
I'm currently going through and adding wiki links to the tags. Please note that some of the wiki pages are not created yet. THIS IS INTENTIONAL. It's a reminder for me to go back and add them.
UPDATE: I've finished up to the end of G-, which is roughly 1/3 of the tags.
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 18:47:58 GMT
Ok, this one I actually spent some time on and like. The handle part has the same sort of beveled effect as the G itself.  |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 9, 2013 19:56:15 GMT
I have updated the page.
Having looked at the effect of the new wiki links on the index page and clicked though to the wiki for some of the links I feel we need to think this through a little more.
Q1. Should we have links to non-existent pages*, blank pages or pages which contain little or no more information than the index page itself?
Such links do not add any value to the index. I am not against links out to wikipedia, or wikia, or wherever, if they do add something, but I am not happy about links just for the sake of links to a parallel project.
Q2. How to format external links?
Just having a link come up as wiki is not clear enough, particularly if falls next to some other linklikethis wiki. That is why I thought putting curlies in thus linklikethis {wiki} might be helpful, though I should probably add some explanation of the convention, whatever we decide upon, in the page header.
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* I have removed about 12 broken links that the link checker flags up.
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 20:20:40 GMT
I have updated the page. Having looked at the effect of the new wiki links on the index page and clicked though to the wiki for some of the links I feel we need to think this through a little more. Q1. Should we have links to non-existent pages*, blank pages or pages which contain little or no more information than the index page itself? Such links do not add any value to the index. I am not against links out to wikipedia, or wikia, or wherever, if they do add something, but I am not happy about links just for the sake of links to a parallel project. Q2. How to format external links? Just having a link come up as wiki is not clear enough, particularly if falls next to some other linklikethis wiki. That is why I thought putting curlies in thus linklikethis { wiki} might be helpful, though I should probably add some explanation of the convention, whatever we decide upon, in the page header. --- * I have removed about 12 broken links that the link checker flags up. Can you post what the broken links were? I am planning to fix them on Wikia as I go (see my above post) to be appropriately informative and thus actually useful but didn't get a chance in the last couple of hours. Regarding external links, I now see what you mean. I don't really have a particular preference, but I'll update it so that they have curly brackets and are in italics for now. |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 20:28:30 GMT
DW, I did a diff on the tags.txt on your site and the one on github and found 'em.
I've updated with clearer {wiki} (and minus the broken links) now.
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 9, 2013 20:41:33 GMT
Ok, this one I actually spent some time on and like. The handle part has the same sort of beveled effect as the G itself. View AttachmentAh, I see where you’re going with this now! Maybe fill the interior of the G with a lighter colour for it to appear more lens-y? |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 9, 2013 21:11:59 GMT
DW, I did a diff on the tags.txt on your site and the one on github and found 'em. I've updated with clearer {wiki} (and minus the broken links) now. Oops 113 A number that appears in many places in the court _{[wiki]}_(http://gunnerkrigg.wikia.com/wiki/113) That breaks the Markdown link syntax, format as: 113 A number that appears in many places in the court _{[wiki](http://gunnerkrigg.wikia.com/wiki/113)}_ I've uploaded the index page generated from a quick fixed (all)tags.txt |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 21:40:48 GMT
Ok, this one I actually spent some time on and like. The handle part has the same sort of beveled effect as the G itself. Ah, I see where you’re going with this now! Maybe fill the interior of the G with a lighter colour for it to appear more lens-y? Aright, this is white at.. 25% opacity:  50% opacity:  Not sure how it quite works across browsers and themes, but with my theme (ignore the bottom part, mockup) it seems to work well enough. Except the glassy part sticks out against the dark tabs, not quite sure about that. |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 21:48:03 GMT
Ah, I see where you’re going with this now! Maybe fill the interior of the G with a lighter colour for it to appear more lens-y? Aright, this is white at 50% opacity: View AttachmentNot sure how it quite works across browsers and themes, but with my theme (ignore the bottom part, mockup) it seems to work well enough. Except the glassy part sticks out against the dark tabs, not quite sure about that. I really like the way this is developing! I reckon drop the opacity down a bit further, maybe down to 25% or so? |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 21:53:20 GMT
Aright, this is white at 50% opacity: Not sure how it quite works across browsers and themes, but with my theme (ignore the bottom part, mockup) it seems to work well enough. Except the glassy part sticks out against the dark tabs, not quite sure about that. I really like the way this is developing! I reckon drop the opacity down a bit further, maybe down to 25% or so? Added 25% opacity to the post.. it does seem to blend in better for the dark parts  |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 22:30:54 GMT
I really like the way this is developing! I reckon drop the opacity down a bit further, maybe down to 25% or so? Added 25% opacity to the post.. it does seem to blend in better for the dark parts Looks really great! Having them side by side you can tell that 25% is better i reckon |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 10, 2013 21:01:46 GMT
Chapters…
As a test I've added a chapter tag to Chapter 44 as (ch44). Does that – if extended to all chapters – help distinguish them or would something more subtle, maybe alternating different background colours for successive chapters, be more the thing?
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Post by snipertom on Nov 10, 2013 21:06:34 GMT
Chapters… As a test I've added a chapter tag to Chapter 44 as (ch44). Does that – if extended to all chapters – help distinguish them or would something more subtle, maybe alternating different background colours for successive chapters, be more the thing? Works really well! At the moment it's not clear which chapter a page belongs to if the chapter cover page isn't up, but this solves a lot of problems by existing. I guess selection would be via the chapter menu? Additionally, alltags has appropriate links up to Sky Watcher, with corresponding improvements to the wiki! |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 10, 2013 21:08:40 GMT
I really like the way this is developing! I reckon drop the opacity down a bit further, maybe down to 25% or so? Added 25% opacity to the post.. it does seem to blend in better for the dark parts Just wondering if you could do me a favour? Would you be able to do a bigger version of that icon as a logo (not necessarily for louis's site but I'm thinking of doing an alternate UI on snipergirl.com/gunnerkrigg where I occasionally experiment)? |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 10, 2013 21:19:57 GMT
Added 25% opacity to the post.. it does seem to blend in better for the dark parts Just wondering if you could do me a favour? Would you be able to do a bigger version of that icon as a logo (not necessarily for louis's site but I'm thinking of doing an alternate UI on snipergirl.com/gunnerkrigg where I occasionally experiment)? It ain't pretty, but here's the unscaled version and the source xcfs if you want to touch it up (the handle one has the paths for flood-filling the bevel lighting). |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 10, 2013 22:09:43 GMT
Just wondering if you could do me a favour? Would you be able to do a bigger version of that icon as a logo (not necessarily for louis's site but I'm thinking of doing an alternate UI on snipergirl.com/gunnerkrigg where I occasionally experiment)? It ain't pretty, but here's the unscaled version and the source xcfs if you want to touch it up (the handle one has the paths for flood-filling the bevel lighting). That is awesome. Just wanted to add that. |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 10, 2013 22:12:44 GMT
snipertom, I forgot to ask: what is the GitHub organisation/repo gunnercorps/gunnerkrigg there for – I assume you set it up?
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Post by snipertom on Nov 10, 2013 22:49:06 GMT
snipertom, I forgot to ask: what is the GitHub organisation/repo gunnercorps/gunnerkrigg there for – I assume you set it up? I was thinking of migrating my repo to a 'Gunnercorps' organisation for easier access for people (it works just like an alternate id on one's own account), but I'm not 100% sure how it works, or even if it's really necessary or helpful for this particular project. |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 11, 2013 18:32:05 GMT
Additionally, alltags has appropriate links up to Sky Watcher, with corresponding improvements to the wiki! How to put this delicately? Your closing curlies are stuck between a square and a round place. They need to be outside the whole []() structure: {[linktext](url)} |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 11, 2013 19:10:42 GMT
Additionally, alltags has appropriate links up to Sky Watcher, with corresponding improvements to the wiki! How to put this delicately? Your closing curlies are stuck between a square and a round place. They need to be outside the whole []() structure: {[linktext](url)} OH. OK! I'll fix that up First time someone's talked about my 'curlies' on an internets  Oh god I typed in {(.*)} (partway through constructing a regex) and... had another inappropriate nerd entendre moment |
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Post by louisxiv on Nov 11, 2013 21:14:37 GMT
Index page updated: 1274 pages indexed, 374 tags defined (though ~50 of those are chapters/intermissions and they're still just presented as tags for now) Plus a bunch more links to the Wiki, now Snipes has her -ahem- braces untangled.
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Post by snipertom on Nov 12, 2013 4:52:44 GMT
Just wondering if you could do me a favour? Would you be able to do a bigger version of that icon as a logo (not necessarily for louis's site but I'm thinking of doing an alternate UI on snipergirl.com/gunnerkrigg where I occasionally experiment)? It ain't pretty, but here's the unscaled version and the source xcfs if you want to touch it up (the handle one has the paths for flood-filling the bevel lighting). This is a thing of beauty. (did you want me to smooth the gradients in PS btw?) |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 12, 2013 5:00:10 GMT
It ain't pretty, but here's the unscaled version and the source xcfs if you want to touch it up (the handle one has the paths for flood-filling the bevel lighting). This is a thing of beauty. (did you want me to smooth the gradients in PS btw?) The ridges in the G are actually supposed to be there. I dunno whether it was originally artifacts from a poorly-antialiased font or it's just an artistic thing, I just copied it from the very first page (I'd like to know what software he used for that..) Though if the handle could be fixed up to look like it, that'd be cool. I could probably do it myself but I've been keeping myself busy with other things. ; ) Or I guess one could take the lazy way out and make it actually look like some sort of metal handle, but where's the fun in that. |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 12, 2013 5:15:43 GMT
It ain't pretty, but here's the unscaled version and the source xcfs if you want to touch it up (the handle one has the paths for flood-filling the bevel lighting). This is a thing of beauty. (did you want me to smooth the gradients in PS btw?)   here's a smoothed one, and one that I had a go putting a circular 25% opacity fill behind |
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