maximkat
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Post by maximkat on Jun 1, 2012 12:32:52 GMT
That's the person Zimmy is hitting. Won't it be interesting if it turns out not to be Anthony after all... I'm pretty sure that's either Zimmy or someone who intentionally looks like her (Annie?) Look at the fingers and the clothes.
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Post by Lightice on Jun 1, 2012 12:47:55 GMT
I still think he's trying to kill her. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=815That skull, man. That's not... that's not the skull of a man who loves his daughter. I know people say he spent years trying to save his wife so he can't be all bad- but I say he spent years trying to save his wife. Maybe he never stopped trying. Dude, Tom has explained that ages ago. Thats' a coyote skull, a sign that Coyote is sneaking into Annie's dreams and looking around, as the page right after it confirms. It has nothing to do with Anthony's feelings. It's scary most likely because it combines a scary moment in Annie's memories with the shock of someone intruding in her brain. No, I'm not signing to evil!Anthony. Jerkass Anthony to be sure, but I'm fairly certain that he sent Annie away because he knew that he couldn't be a good parent under the circumstances, and that kind of self-awareness deserves some recognition. Anyway, give the guy a chance to explain his side of things before branding him a monster.
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 1, 2012 13:27:13 GMT
We know Zimmy can easily go far beyond cow laptop-tipping. If her critters leak in, no big deal that she makes herself heard... and seen... and felt. Conversely, this time grey/colored indication doesn't apply. I'm going to guess that Annie will be horrified if she learns that Zimmy hijacked her soul (?) to punch her dad in the face. Kat will laugh. I doubt you can do something like that to Anthony without consequences, though. I expect lots of screaming, crying and embracing in their nearby future. Indeed. Hit first, ask questions afterwards is a classic recipe for disaster... [...] Won't it be interesting if it turns out not to be Anthony after all... (sigh) At least, he's not in the middle of some tricky surgering, what with bare hands. While such enthusiasm in itself is admirable, well... yeah, we still don't see the face. Anthony doesn't have the decency to show his face even when it's getting punched. Typical. He is always like this! ;D I don't know whether this is because she sees etheric stuff all the time, so she can learn from it, but how else would she know fairly advanced stuff about the ether? This implies she see much differences between real, dreamed up and etheric things in the first place. like, how else would Zimmy "recognise" anthony? Well, duh - she started with reading Annie's mind. So am I weird for not demonizing Tony? Yes. And, given that cold surgical steel was already invoked... Unacceptable! That skull, man. That's not... that's not the skull of a man who loves his daughter. I think you're too cruel to poor Coyote. Zimmy lends a very.. "Fuck it, we're doing this thing." feel to it. Sure, she had to be forced in to finally taking action, but when Zimmy does take action it tends to be.. decisive? Zimmy jumped the threshold when she walked in Annie's room. She wavered before that, and let Gamma guide her, but once it's started, there's only "rush forward until you see the other end" for her. makes those bone-things look a lot more like some sort of overstretched elastic, so maybe it's because of the blinker stone after all? Like sinews? Annie's blinker is the obvious answer, because we have to choose from the two known participants. Anthony is a surgeon who barely admitted "that magical crap" exists at all. While two chapters ago Blinker link was treated as visible and palpable.
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Post by blahzor on Jun 1, 2012 13:38:55 GMT
I one believe she just actually punched Annie not Anthony Also she's blending into Annie's elemental the closer she's getting to Annie ethereal elemental self that's with Anthony She's also becoming more human looking the closer she's getting to full blown Annie powers negating her own, like Gamma does except Gamma's work "more" due to Annie not being at her full potential. But said full potential is overwhelming and a consuming fire
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psykeout
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Post by psykeout on Jun 1, 2012 13:46:18 GMT
Anyway, give the guy a chance to explain his side of things before branding him a monster. See that's all I'm saying. He the only word he's ever said (outside of flashbacks) is his daughter's name. I don't think we've gotten to know him at all enough to be able to make judgments on his character. He did abandon his daughter (he made sure everything was provided for her, mind you), but we haven't gotten to see his motives to that at all. For all we know, it might not have even been by his own will (which I doubt, but I'm just saying it's a possibility).
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Post by pasko on Jun 1, 2012 13:47:44 GMT
Now Zimmy is catapulted in the past, where she gets rid of the scar, back to page 1. Maaan, what a trip!
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Post by Alexandragon on Jun 1, 2012 14:45:04 GMT
*brain explosion*
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Post by Aurelia Verity on Jun 1, 2012 14:55:52 GMT
And then the Anthony Hate Team rejoiced i'm still on the fence about the hate though, there is more to this story than first seems. when has it ever been so cut and dry with Mr. Siddell? I hope Anthony wasn't doing anything important when the firekick came, like say, performing delicate surgery with those supplies he was sent. hopefully he was just enjoying a beer or something.
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Post by FlyingMug on Jun 1, 2012 14:55:55 GMT
So why did Zimmy punch Pete Abrams?
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 1, 2012 15:27:50 GMT
And then the Anthony Hate Team rejoiced i'm still on the fence about the hate though, there is more to this story than first seems. when has it ever been so cut and dry with Mr. Siddell? I hope Anthony wasn't doing anything important when the firekick came, like say, performing delicate surgery with those supplies he was sent. hopefully he was just enjoying a beer or something. It's the Anthony Hate Unit Patrol Squad, actually Hrm, If Tony drinks beer its probably something hoity-toity like seasonal microbrews. I hope he chokes on his winter lager, and then has to pour the rest of it out to sooth the massive singe on his back. It'll probably ruin his perfectly pressed white shirt too.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Jun 1, 2012 15:28:02 GMT
Somewhere in the Forest, Coyote is rolling on his back laughing, while Ysengrin stands with his arms crossed -- and a fang-baring smile, deeply impressed with Zimmy's approach. ;D
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Post by atteSmythe on Jun 1, 2012 16:01:19 GMT
Anthony doesn't have the decency to show his face even when it's getting punched. Typical. Makes it likely that it's not Anthony! Also, the cut is back...Zimmy really does find it hard not to be Antimony in the ether. I suppose she is a sponge for that sort of thing. But I'm with blahzor, above - I think she just punched Annie. Zimmy and Red need to meet each other. They'd be best friends.
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Post by paxjax123 on Jun 1, 2012 16:31:17 GMT
Ohhh Zimmyyyyyyyyyyy You absolute BADASS! That is the coolest thing to say before punching someone. I applaud this girl.
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 1, 2012 17:14:20 GMT
I one believe she just actually punched Annie not Anthony Not her short hair, not her hands. Impossible, short of Annie mistaking herself for someone else. I don't think we've gotten to know him at all enough to be able to make judgments on his character. Wait, since when "we don't really know X" isn't the main argument for happy judging? (see also my links above) Somewhere in the Forest, Coyote is rolling on his back laughing, while Ysengrin stands with his arms crossed -- and a fang-baring smile, deeply impressed with Zimmy's approach. ;D She doesn't have the fang on her. On the other eyestalk, Ether-scape seems to be all wide open, with only power or affinity limiting how far one can see. Hmmm... definitely possible. ;D
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Post by quirkykelly on Jun 1, 2012 17:50:31 GMT
I've been having a hard time emotionally connecting to this chapter. Usually, the chapters grab my attention and heart and unfold in a way that I'm eagerly anticipating to the MWF updates, but this one just hasn't done that for me. It appeared to come out of nowhere, and though it's connected to previous events, it's presented in a random disjointed way (which I'm sure is intentional) and I'm still not convinced that any of this is actually happening and not just in Zimmy or Annie's head. Instead of looking forward to updates, I find myself forgetting about checking GC until 2-3 updates have passed. The previous few chapters have flowed so well and brought more emotional depth to the characters, and this one just now appears to be providing that.
On the positive side, it seems that I'm not alone in my relief that we finally (kinda) know what this chapter is about and it appears to be pretty significant and directly connected to the previous chapter (which I wasn't expecting). Also, the artwork this past week has been some of the best Tom's done. Make me wonder - is this the first chapter Tom completed after making GC his full-time job? Visually, we're enjoying the fruits of his decision.
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Post by OrzBrain on Jun 1, 2012 18:53:16 GMT
So why did Zimmy punch Pete Abrams? That's why he's sick!
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Post by crater on Jun 1, 2012 19:01:49 GMT
"no fight" I'm choosing to beleive this was Annie's inner fire elemental's plan all along. Zimmy was basically manipulated, and that punch was just a warning of whats to come.
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Post by bingli on Jun 1, 2012 19:48:35 GMT
Next panel: "Zimmy, I am your father..." yes, yes? Any takers? no? okay.
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 1, 2012 20:02:22 GMT
On the positive side, it seems that I'm not alone in my relief that we finally (kinda) know what this chapter is about and it appears to be pretty significant and directly connected to the previous chapter (which I wasn't expecting). Also, the artwork this past week has been some of the best Tom's done. Make me wonder - is this the first chapter Tom completed after making GC his full-time job? Visually, we're enjoying the fruits of his decision. Yeah, I have noticed a slight change in his style. I may be mistaken, but I believe this was the first chapter that was made after he quit.
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 1, 2012 20:10:24 GMT
It appeared to come out of nowhere, and though it's connected to previous events, it's presented in a random disjointed way (which I'm sure is intentional) and I'm still not convinced that any of this is actually happening and not just in Zimmy or Annie's head. Yeah, but the participants apparently feel the same, so it's cool. Would be funny. But highly unlikely. Given how it took Surma to blast all this awkwardness and sweep Tony off his feet. He could end up with Surma right after a break-up with someone else, but it's hard to imagine without a few years of quiet brooding in between or something like this.
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Post by negativeproximity on Jun 1, 2012 20:48:21 GMT
I'm probably not agreeing with the people who say that they don't think it's actually tony. What you can see of the hair may be wrong, but I don't know how Zimmy would make that mistake, if she could feel it was Annie's dad. And it's definitely a dude.
Although it could be true that Annie is mistaking herself for someone else. That could be part of her problem right now.
I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, really.
There's still something Tom's not letting us know about what's going on. There's a LOT about that Tom's not letting us know about what's going on.
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Post by Lightice on Jun 1, 2012 20:58:04 GMT
That could theoretically be Annie's projection of Tony, rather than the man himself, like she produced projections of Kamlen and Jones earlier in the chapter. But there's still precious little info to speculate from. Until we find out where the hell those bony things are coming from, we have almost nothing to work with.
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Post by psykeout on Jun 1, 2012 21:12:16 GMT
I'm still of the opinion that the bones aren't actually "there," rather they're etherical manifestations of Annie's feelings.
This is not a popular opinion I take it.
Also, I forget what the other chapter was, but the characters do act out of place when they're in a dream or whatever. I think.
I can remember at least one instance in which the characters were being a little out of character and then it turned out it wasn't real. I think.
Remembering things is hard guys
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Post by todd on Jun 1, 2012 22:15:48 GMT
I hope Anthony wasn't doing anything important when the firekick came, like say, performing delicate surgery with those supplies he was sent. I thought so as well. Of course, someone could argue that there were plenty of skilled surgeons around who didn't have daughters that had just lost their mother and would be all alone if their father abandoned them on a mysterious journey.
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Post by warrl on Jun 1, 2012 22:50:09 GMT
I'm probably not agreeing with the people who say that they don't think it's actually tony. What you can see of the hair may be wrong I can't see any of the target's hair. However, it does seem to me that Zimmy has a bit of Plastic-Man arms in that last frame.
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Post by Lightice on Jun 1, 2012 23:24:51 GMT
Would anyone here with Photoshop be so kind as to darken Anthony's head's region a few degrees? I'm almost certain that the outline of his head is there, almost invisible in the whiteness. We might get hints of whether it's really him, if we could get a better look...
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Post by golvok on Jun 2, 2012 0:23:40 GMT
I'm not sure exactly what this reveals, but here is an adjusted image: Attachments:
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Post by Marnath on Jun 2, 2012 0:26:38 GMT
See that's all I'm saying. He the only word he's ever said (outside of flashbacks) is his daughter's name. I don't think we've gotten to know him at all enough to be able to make judgments on his character. He did abandon his daughter (he made sure everything was provided for her, mind you), but we haven't gotten to see his motives to that at all. For all we know, it might not have even been by his own will (which I doubt, but I'm just saying it's a possibility). I don't need to know his goals or motivations to pass judgement on his character. I don't care how gifted he is or how many lives he's saved. I don't care what secret thing he's working on. A man does not abandon his child for any reason, period. There's nothing he could be doing that's so damned important that he can't at least stay in touch with her and support her, even if he can't physically be with her. We've seen he has the ability to call her, and there's no good excuse for not doing it. No matter what else he is and no matter what good deeds he does, he is an absentee father and there's nothing in the world that can justify that. Unless I see something of Earth shattering significance come from him I will think of him as less than nothing.
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Post by FlyingMug on Jun 2, 2012 0:51:53 GMT
*Gasp* And Hogglerynth is really Gunnerkrigg Court! It's cool guys, we've solved the chapter.
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Post by Lightice on Jun 2, 2012 1:03:07 GMT
I'm not sure exactly what this reveals, but here is an adjusted image: Not as much as I'd hoped, but I think I see a hint of short hair, there. Anthony did not abandon his child. He arranged Annie to be raised in the best possible environment he could think of, under the protection of people he trusted the most, allowing her to make friends with people of her own age for the first time in her life. We don't yet know why he dissappeared entirely, but if I had to guess, it's because he's afraid of himself under the circumstances, scared that he will blame Annie for Surma's death, consciously or unconsciously, and be a poor, distant, if not outright hostile parent for her. I don't think that he has much confidence in himself as a parent under the best circumstances, considering how messed up he was over the simple idea that a girl might like him in high-school, and Surma's death probably escalated the matters further. Bottom line, there are a lot worse things Anthony could have done than to leave Annie at Gunnerkrigg Court. That alone should prove that he's not acting out of malice or negligence, at least by the information that we currently have. But we'll have to wait for the exact reasons, be they good or bad.
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