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Post by Max on May 11, 2012 7:02:32 GMT
Wat?So, it looks like the people who guessed Coyote's involvement were correct. And the big question is, who is the guy? Coyote in disguise. Kamlen? And why does Annie seem pleased to be embraced by him?
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Post by horerczy on May 11, 2012 7:04:40 GMT
Okay then.
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Post by edzepp on May 11, 2012 7:04:57 GMT
Whoa. Whoa whoa whoa. What is going on here.
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Post by serendipity on May 11, 2012 7:06:52 GMT
And why does Annie seem pleased to be embraced by him? Clearly because his hair goes up.
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Post by woppy on May 11, 2012 7:08:13 GMT
And why does Annie seem pleased to be embraced by him? Clearly because his hair goes up. You win all the awards.
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Post by porcupineadvocate on May 11, 2012 7:09:24 GMT
Medium zoom Antimony looks odd without the collar, when tiny Antimony and big Antimony both have the detail.
Also I think her right sleeve is bluer than the left sleeve, but that might be an optical illusion.
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Post by thatkid on May 11, 2012 7:11:51 GMT
I don't know who this dude is, but I already don't like him.
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Post by Cascal on May 11, 2012 7:13:19 GMT
I don't know who this dude is, but I already don't like him. He doesn't look to friendly, but we don't know if he is the one who "trapped" annie, or if he is just some memory from her summer in the forest.
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Post by porcupineadvocate on May 11, 2012 7:13:56 GMT
Zimmy's past tense suggests that she knows she's looking into a memory of some past event. Maybe telekinesis practice during the forest stay?
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Post by Raph on May 11, 2012 7:14:41 GMT
I wonder if Zimmy's the only one able to see all these things... You know, because of her infamous background with reality twisting.
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Post by Alexandragon on May 11, 2012 7:30:27 GMT
Oh WOW! Last panel looks just amazing!)
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Post by americonedream on May 11, 2012 7:30:49 GMT
Maybe the knives are just what the binding Coyote put around Annie's hand looks like in the Aether? It was said it would have snipped her hand off if she told anyone about it. I'm going with memory if that's the case. And Annie! Goodness! Green boys at your age? Save it for university, girl! That or he's..gosh, I don't know! I JUST DON'T KNOW!
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Post by GK Sierra on May 11, 2012 7:31:58 GMT
I don't know who this dude is, but I already don't like him. Me neither. Something about Antimony's Mona Lisa smile in the last frame makes me want to douse that spinach colored wossname with octane and light him on fire. Plus it might be the fact that his hair looks like some kind of bro-elvis fusion. Also: Check out the fire spike symbol on the back of her head in panel 4.
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Post by Raph on May 11, 2012 7:36:17 GMT
Maybe the knives are just what the binding Coyote put around Annie's hand looks like in the Aether? It was said it would have snipped her hand off if she told anyone about it. I'm going with memory if that's the case. And Annie! Goodness! Green boys at your age? Save it for university, girl! That or he's..gosh, I don't know! I JUST DON'T KNOW! If by that you mean Annie's weak because she's pregnant then me neither. Also: Check out the fire spike symbol on the back of her head in panel 4. Yes, she appears to have been meditating, maybe this is the chapter where we finally get to learn about that fire spike and it's meaning.
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Post by vulpixlb on May 11, 2012 8:04:45 GMT
Shouldn't she have a scar on her face? Or are these indeed memories, and, since she is unaware of the scar, she doesn't remember it? But then why is the band around her arm represented by teeth? Maybe she went into the Aether then and she saw them like this? Is the green boy not one of the family she stayed with? Maybe the boy that taught her to loosen up (Kamlen)? (from there the memory without a collar, it's the representation of her that is loosing up? Or Tom forgot it/artistic license).
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 11, 2012 8:09:31 GMT
I think what we have here is a nice big jumble. Different things seem to be smearing together.
And his hair doesn't go up nearly far enough. I wonder if this caress is an indirect effect of Jeanne's wound... Diego's arrow targeted her through Forest Dude, perhaps this is seepage?
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Post by Ashley Y on May 11, 2012 8:15:00 GMT
I think she's just dreaming.
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Post by dulcissima on May 11, 2012 9:01:54 GMT
Well. I am usually a lurker, but this page made me to log in and write.
Doesn't he look like he was about to get that binding off her hand?
And that guy looks much more older than Kamlen should - she said he was about her age, so this might not be him.
[Sorry for poor english, I havent been usig it for a while]
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Post by Belrisa on May 11, 2012 9:58:22 GMT
It looks to me like he is protecting her from the binding, because he slid his finger under the tooth.
I thought the binding was supposed to be gone? Of course, Coyote could have lied.
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Post by FlyingMug on May 11, 2012 11:33:15 GMT
I don't know who this dude is, but I already don't like him. Clearly a smooth criminal.
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Post by Lightice on May 11, 2012 11:40:57 GMT
I thought the binding was supposed to be gone? Of course, Coyote could have lied. The Coyote does not lie, but he never promised to take the binding off, either. He just said that her hand will be cut off if she tells anyone in the Forest about his tooth. There was no time limit to his threat. So, the binding is still there but invisible, at least on Annies etheric body. I wonder what would happen if your etheric hand got cut off, while your physical hand still remains? Paralysis? Necrosis? Something worse?
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Post by leiodaahs on May 11, 2012 12:21:32 GMT
Annie looks lovely in that last panel, however I'll agree with the dislike sentiment.
It's like some seeing some random guy hanging off your little sister a party. God I wanna punch his face.
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Post by Aris Katsaris on May 11, 2012 12:22:37 GMT
Late in commenting; but that's an interesting intimate scene. So Annie is likely to have had romantic and/or sexual (or atleast quasi-sexual) experiences during her time in the Forest.
But I very much doubt it's *pregnancy* that's the problem, as someone above suggested.
So wild hypothesizing time:
I think if the condition of Annie's heritage could be avoided by merely not getting pregnant, then it would not be spoken of quite in the manner it was -- e.g. it would not be assumed that Annie *would* have a child to eventually pass her spirit on.
I wonder if romantic/sexual feelings themselves produce the weakness; if acting on them actually alleviates the problem (going with the fire analogy, the bigger the fire the more fuel it requires to consume -- a smaller fire requires less fuel). In which case that she started having romantic/physical yearnings but *not* acted on them, may themselves be a problem (and once adult, perhaps engaging in sex but not conceiving a child would likewise cause even more weakness). That's why having a child is inevitable -- it wouldn't actually prolong Annie's life to indefinitely abstain from sex or indefinitely avoid pregnancy.
Might explain why Surma chose Anthony to be the father of her child -- Surma might have hoped that his cooler head would help delay this phase in Annie's life.
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Post by legion on May 11, 2012 12:27:19 GMT
Doctor Zimmy walked into a tough one!
This chapter is getting better and better.
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Post by karakai on May 11, 2012 12:27:45 GMT
From what I can tell the clothes are transitioning from her hospital gown to her school clothes from when she ran off. So I don't think you're just seeing things, porcupineadvocate :]
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Post by Cleo on May 11, 2012 13:04:04 GMT
I so desperately want to write something constructive but I'm going to give it a fortnight. Zimmy, you better sort this out, green guy's (I think it's Kamlen too) have only led to trouble thus far. Well, once. Enough to warn your daughters.
It's unbelievably cool to see Zimmy get a peak into the forest, two worlds/characters I never imagined colliding. So much I don't understand but that's the joy of Tom's work, so much more than I could imagine or tell myself.
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Post by porcupineadvocate on May 11, 2012 13:38:35 GMT
I wonder if romantic/sexual feelings themselves produce the weakness; if acting on them actually alleviates the problem (going with the fire analogy, the bigger the fire the more fuel it requires to consume -- a smaller fire requires less fuel). In which case that she started having romantic/physical yearnings but *not* acted on them, may themselves be a problem (and once adult, perhaps engaging in sex but not conceiving a child would likewise cause even more weakness). That's why having a child is inevitable -- it wouldn't actually prolong Annie's life to indefinitely abstain from sex or indefinitely avoid pregnancy. Rather creepy, but it would explain why everyone seems so certain... hm. The forest summer also marks the shift in Antimony's appearance. My objection is that it seems rather too odd to fit in with the past tone of the comic, but that could change.
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Post by darlos9d on May 11, 2012 13:56:06 GMT
I think what we have here is a nice big jumble. Different things seem to be smearing together. This. I'm going to just, uh... wait and see what happens rather than conjecture. It's just too enigmatic.
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Post by arf on May 11, 2012 14:21:14 GMT
Everyone's speculating on the green dude and what relationship *he* might have with *our* dear heroine, and no-one's yet commented on the *other* green (legged) dude that Zimmy flicks off.
Did the spider become Kamlen? Did Zimmy become Kamlen?
Anne being pregnant would be a *very* interesting development, but I don't buy it: I think she'd have mentioned an affair with Kamlen to Kat (and not hint that Kat would find him interesting)
Current hypothesis: this is a memory of a dream. Zimmy is currently narrating it to Kat, based on input she's getting from Kat. Kat is drawing on what Annie's told her of her time in the forest.
...or something.
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Post by Kriselia on May 11, 2012 14:28:59 GMT
Totally going with the idea that that's Kamlen. Good on you Annie, getting some pointy eared action! But I do wonder what he's doing to the binding there, it definitely seems like he's not just randomly caressing her arm. I wonder if romantic/sexual feelings themselves produce the weakness; if acting on them actually alleviates the problem (going with the fire analogy, the bigger the fire the more fuel it requires to consume -- a smaller fire requires less fuel). In which case that she started having romantic/physical yearnings but *not* acted on them, may themselves be a problem (and once adult, perhaps engaging in sex but not conceiving a child would likewise cause even more weakness). That's why having a child is inevitable -- it wouldn't actually prolong Annie's life to indefinitely abstain from sex or indefinitely avoid pregnancy. That's a very interesting theory, I do like it since it seems weird that fire elementals would just suicide by baby when they know what happens. Buuut then again it's also a little creepy, since the condition would pretty much result in "Have sex or you die" which is pretty friggin dark. From what I can tell the clothes are transitioning from her hospital gown to her school clothes from when she ran off. Nice catch, now that you said it that seems like the reason for the weird clothes. Also, that particular panel even has the bedcover fluttering around.
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