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Post by zylonbane on Dec 8, 2010 21:37:28 GMT
I just posted a few weeks ago in the speculation thread that this would turn into FMA and I listed reasons why. - Highly emotional - Disfigured by misuse of magic powers - Has even more disfigured brother - Joined the military - Travels the land in search of a magical artifact Holy crap, you're right. It's like Edward and Antimony are the same person!
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Post by jayne on Dec 8, 2010 21:58:08 GMT
I just posted a few weeks ago in the speculation thread that this would turn into FMA and I listed reasons why. -Main character's friend is adept at mechanics -A god contacts the character decently early on -Magic-like themes all over the place -Alchemy or related themes everywhere -Distant father, dead parent -A whole bunch more I may or may not edit into this post And now magic chalk circles. So lets see... The first Harry Potter story featured a philosophers' stone, a legendary alchemical substance. He's got 2 dead parents, there's alchemy and magic everywhere...Hermione is adept at, well everything but flying. Does Dumbledore count as a god-like character? And Harry Potter has been around a lot longer than FMA so it must have turned FMA into a Harry Potter Story! ...or not.
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Post by Miri on Dec 8, 2010 22:10:28 GMT
FMA = Awesome Gunnerkrigg = Awesome Therefore FMA = Gunnerkrigg? I dunno. XD That's how I see it. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that Gunnerkrigg and FMA share a number of characteristics that I find personally intriguing regardless of context. Cheers. My first thought was, like myzelf mentioned, that dropping the chalk was not Eglamore's best move of the day. Also, the more I look at the third treatise page, the more I see all the nifty foreshadowing - the Visit the Stars! moon poster for Terror Castle of the Jupiter Moon Martians, Jeanne's sword for The Coward Heart, a kind of Jackesque figure for Spring-Heeled I/II, a satellite for Sky-Watcher and the Angel, the gear over Kat's head, apart from being generally symbolic of her character, puts me in mind of A Bad Start...Tom's awesome. =D Does anyone happen to know offhand what the green leaves in the bottom right of 560 are? EDIT: Nevermind, found 'em. Again, Tom knows what he's doing and it's awesome.
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Post by Sadie on Dec 8, 2010 22:49:39 GMT
Also, the more I look at the third treatise page, the more I see all the nifty foreshadowing - the Visit the Stars! moon poster for Terror Castle of the Jupiter Moon Martians, Jeanne's sword for The Coward Heart, a kind of Jackesque figure for Spring-Heeled I/II, a satellite for Sky-Watcher and the Angel, the gear over Kat's head, apart from being generally symbolic of her character, puts me in mind of A Bad Start...Tom's awesome. =D What's funny is that until people started pointing out elements of the Third Treaties relating to stuff that's been happening in the comic, I thought it was supposed to be "Kat and Annie stand in for other people" like the first two Treaties pictures -- only the people they're standing in for are their mothers. The blue dress and bare feet are reminiscent of Surma, with Rey left behind to watch after her longingly, and the eye of Coyote's power clinging to her. (Also, does anyone know what the symbol on Kat's badge is? It can also be seen above her head in the Second Treaties.)
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Post by bookworm on Dec 8, 2010 22:57:36 GMT
Haven't finished reading through the thread, so sorry if someone said this...
Question-since Annie ordered him to not change, does that mean Rey has to stay in plushie form until she comes back?
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Post by jayne on Dec 9, 2010 0:11:05 GMT
Haven't finished reading through the thread, so sorry if someone said this... Question-since Annie ordered him to not change, does that mean Rey has to stay in plushie form until she comes back? I'd say Yup
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Post by jayne on Dec 9, 2010 0:14:04 GMT
FMA = Awesome Gunnerkrigg = Awesome Therefore FMA = Gunnerkrigg? I dunno. XD That's how I see it. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that Gunnerkrigg and FMA share a number of characteristics that I find personally intriguing regardless of context. Cheers. My first thought was, like myzelf mentioned, that dropping the chalk was not Eglamore's best move of the day. Also, the more I look at the third treatise page, the more I see all the nifty foreshadowing - the Visit the Stars! moon poster for Terror Castle of the Jupiter Moon Martians, Jeanne's sword for The Coward Heart, a kind of Jackesque figure for Spring-Heeled I/II, a satellite for Sky-Watcher and the Angel, the gear over Kat's head, apart from being generally symbolic of her character, puts me in mind of A Bad Start...Tom's awesome. =D Does anyone happen to know offhand what the green leaves in the bottom right of 560 are? EDIT: Nevermind, found 'em. Again, Tom knows what he's doing and it's awesome. Actually, I thought it was about to this
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Post by aegis on Dec 9, 2010 0:43:27 GMT
So lets see... The first Harry Potter story featured a philosophers' stone, a legendary alchemical substance. He's got 2 dead parents, there's alchemy and magic everywhere...Hermione is adept at, well everything but flying. Does Dumbledore count as a god-like character? And Harry Potter has been around a lot longer than FMA so it must have turned FMA into a Harry Potter Story! True, Harry Potter came before by about four years, but there are huge differences between it and FMA. It's like saying the book Starship Troopers makes the Halo series into another generic space marine story ( Aliens too). Harry Potter draws on archetypes like an old wise wizard mentor (Merlin and Gandalf ) and shadowy, terrifying henchmen (Ringwraiths and dementors) that have long been ensconced within Western literature.
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Post by Spike on Dec 9, 2010 1:26:42 GMT
ANTIMONY -Attack -Magic >Dual Use -Item -Flee
*casting*
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EGLAMORE -Attack -Skill >Item --+Purple Chalk -Flee
*MProtect*
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ANTIMONY >Magic --+Fire >Item --+Blinker Stone
*Firaga*
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EGLAMORE -Attack >Skill --+Pursuit -Guard -Item -Flee
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ANTIMONY -Attack -Magic -Dual Use -Item >Flee
*ANTIMONY fled...*
har har
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Post by jayne on Dec 9, 2010 1:52:00 GMT
So lets see... The first Harry Potter story featured a philosophers' stone, a legendary alchemical substance. He's got 2 dead parents, there's alchemy and magic everywhere...Hermione is adept at, well everything but flying. Does Dumbledore count as a god-like character? And Harry Potter has been around a lot longer than FMA so it must have turned FMA into a Harry Potter Story! True, Harry Potter came before by about four years, but there are huge differences between it and FMA. It's like saying the book Starship Troopers makes the Halo series into another generic space marine story ( Aliens too). Harry Potter draws on archetypes like an old wise wizard mentor (Merlin and Gandalf ) and shadowy, terrifying henchmen (Ringwraiths and dementors) that have long been ensconced within Western literature. See, by leaving off the '...or not' part, you miss the sarcasm intended for that message!
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Post by Yin on Dec 9, 2010 3:46:00 GMT
(Also, does anyone know what the symbol on Kat's badge is? It can also be seen above her head in the Second Treaties.) It's something Tom made up.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 9, 2010 3:50:55 GMT
The Lamp Posts appear to be intact. I suspect the flame was indeed just an illusion, but a very dangerous one when walking on a bridge with no railings. The lamp posts wouldn't necessarily be destroyed, just scorched. I wonder why he didn't just single-bound over it, though. Because heat rises? But who IS this Eglamoer. Isn't this joke (which all came about due to a change in Tom's drawing style and methods between Chapters Fourteen and Seventeen) getting old? Expecting the internet to use self-control and not run a joke into the ground? Oh, Todd, you kidder.
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Post by Max on Dec 9, 2010 5:01:57 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 9, 2010 5:27:09 GMT
If he's jumping by making his body light he might get way too much lift and some random trajectory changes from hopping over a big updraft... long drop to a nasty place on either side of the bridge, there...
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Post by therighttrousers on Dec 9, 2010 5:50:19 GMT
The lights look to be about one storey tall, and the fire appears to me to be about three or four times that. It could be close enough to Eggers' max height that it'd make him wary.
Also, fire can be pretty unpredictable. Best to just control it.
And, I just noticed that this fire seems to be blowing toward him. It could be an Eggers-seeking fire.
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Post by hal9000 on Dec 9, 2010 6:25:41 GMT
Anyone notice the fertility statue at the bottom middle of page 560 next to the sword? Kinda interesting given what we now know. The doll on page 560 doesn't seem zaftig enough to be a fertility statue. I think that's a nod to Jones. You mean in regards to Jones supposedly being a golem? Tom's said on formspring that she's not a golem; personally, I think she's probably an alien.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 9, 2010 9:11:19 GMT
You mean in regards to Jones supposedly being a golem? Tom's said on formspring that she's not a golem; personally, I think she's probably an alien. I think she is referring to my Jones-is- Galatea theory, because it's a Venus figurine.
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Post by blastdragon on Dec 9, 2010 9:44:17 GMT
The topic title covers this post completely. Tom posted a tweet about yesterday´s comic.
I hope this is a joke and otherwise I hope it will go well...
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Post by 0o0f on Dec 9, 2010 10:02:18 GMT
That's very likely a joke.
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Post by whattheziek on Dec 9, 2010 12:38:52 GMT
Tom has no fear from FMA anyway, since the source material for both is public domain. Alchemy for the People! Viva la Gunnerkrigg Court!~ [/shot for being an utter cheese]
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 9, 2010 14:57:03 GMT
Writing/symbols having power is one of the oldest themes there is.
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Post by jayne on Dec 9, 2010 15:19:00 GMT
The doll on page 560 doesn't seem zaftig enough to be a fertility statue. I think that's a nod to Jones. You mean in regards to Jones supposedly being a golem? Tom's said on formspring that she's not a golem; personally, I think she's probably an alien. I meant she's got a stony expression and seems very solid... and she sinks like a rock! Even with her not being a golem, it still seems to be about her to me.
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Post by percival on Dec 9, 2010 16:58:07 GMT
I wonder, is the purple chalk and/or symbol an uplink to Anja and Donald's computer?
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Post by Snes on Dec 9, 2010 17:51:55 GMT
I wonder, is the purple chalk and/or symbol an uplink to Anja and Donald's computer? You know, that sphere does look familiar...
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Post by dismalscientist on Dec 9, 2010 17:55:13 GMT
I wonder, is the purple chalk and/or symbol an uplink to Anja and Donald's computer? I'd wondered about something similar: is that Eglamore doing magic, or is the chalk magic, or (as you suggest) is it somehow connected to the court computer system? If one of the two former, this may be only the second instance of a human performing genuine "magic" in the comic, unless you count the stone-honed psychic abilities of Annie and Surma. So is magic something that anyone can learn, at which only some are very talented? I note that it appears to be more cumbersome process for Eglamore to summon that sphere than for the 12-year-old Anja. Or does some large subset of humanity not have the capability at all? (As to the person above who pointed out that Kat is wearing Jones's outfit in the third treatise -- I don't know if you were the first person to point that out, and I'm not sure what it means, but good catch!)
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 9, 2010 19:06:57 GMT
I wonder, is the purple chalk and/or symbol an uplink to Anja and Donald's computer? No, this he have as a tattoo, remember? Did Eglamore really think Carver would want to see him after that? :( Logan, 08.12.2010, 9:46am # Same question here. What does he want? Follow her until she throws fire at him or what?
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Post by dismalscientist on Dec 9, 2010 20:02:12 GMT
I wonder, is the purple chalk and/or symbol an uplink to Anja and Donald's computer? No, this he have as a tattoo, remember? I thought the tattoo was just a ward that protected against Renard's body-snatching? I thought this was separate from having an account on Anja's etheric computer (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=519). Did he think Annie would want to see him after ... what? My assumption is that Eglamore doesn't know what's going on -- he was summoned when the alarm went off. I don't think he would've had time to figure out why Annie's upset; he just knows that she's running off into danger.
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Post by Yin on Dec 9, 2010 21:29:13 GMT
After the immense firewall, I assume. But I agree. As far as he knows, Annie is running off for no reason into a dangerous place... although he may have forgotten in the heat of the moment that Coyote invited her there before, so she's most likely safe.
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Post by ptosky on Dec 9, 2010 21:37:37 GMT
Hmmm, I got a feeling this page is not what it seems. Eglamore looks too young. Could we be seeing Surma and young Eglamore having a tiff?
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 9, 2010 21:55:25 GMT
No rounded corners on the comic suggests no flashback.
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