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Post by Aspen d'Grey on May 18, 2007 13:51:54 GMT
What?! It's 8am and noone has posted a story discussion?
Yay, even thouh we all knew this was comind, its nice for it to actually be here. ^^
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Post by mrw on May 18, 2007 13:53:08 GMT
Awwww... how cute. Kat looks so beautiful in panel 5, yes?
Some folks in the comments page have been speculating that Annie's comment that Kat is beautiful without makeup means that Annie thinks that she herself is not beautiful, and therefore needs makeup. Personally, I think that's reading too much into Annie's compliment, but you never know.
Sweet page, Tom!
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Post by Aspen d'Grey on May 18, 2007 13:55:02 GMT
Yeah, I saw those, but I'm not buying it. D'aww....
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Post by todd on May 18, 2007 16:55:38 GMT
If Annie thinks that she isn't beautiful, either there's something very wrong with her eyes, or else she has unusual aesthetic standards.
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Post by Aura on May 18, 2007 17:59:26 GMT
*sticks up hand* I was one of those people XP But looking at it now, I think she wears makeup as a kind of homage to her mom, maybe But this chapter isn't about Annie, it's supposed to be about Kat :<
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Post by Myrani on May 18, 2007 18:26:12 GMT
I'm amusing myself with the thought that perhaps if Annie wasn't one to wear makeup and never had all along, would saying the same thing in the same situation make people accuse her of being narcissistic? Hee. Also, I am of the understanding that even a girl who applies makeup on a regular basis can be completely oblivious to how beautiful she is, never mind self-esteem issues. A girl like Annie who grew up in a somewhat different environment without peers like she has at school here might just not put so much focus on these issues, and understandably so. She regularly chatted with figures out of myth, anyways, and they might not all be in keeping with current fashion trends. They have more important things to look after. Oh well. This page was really sweet, besides all that.
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Post by todd on May 18, 2007 22:23:14 GMT
Incidentally, I think that we should all be glad that Kat didn't also try stuffing a couple of small round objects in her sweater as part of her unsuccessful attempt at "prettifying" herself.
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Post by yeochild on May 19, 2007 7:31:26 GMT
I reckon Annie wears makeup because she's all mature and wouldn't want to change that if she could. But Kat is all normal and happy and innocent, and the best thing to go with that is no make-up.
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Post by mrw on May 19, 2007 21:41:38 GMT
Incidentally, I think that we should all be glad that Kat didn't also try stuffing a couple of small round objects in her sweater as part of her unsuccessful attempt at "prettifying" herself. Heh- if she had been successful with the makeup, I bet that would have been next. I reckon Annie wears makeup because she's all mature and wouldn't want to change that if she could. But Kat is all normal and happy and innocent, and the best thing to go with that is no make-up. Too true. Lots of happy spontaneity tends to ruin makeup and musses up fancy hair anyway.
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Post by todd on May 20, 2007 2:17:29 GMT
One thing that occurred to me recently (based partly on the comments on the comments page) is that, while this is a story whose main characters are a couple of schoolgirls, it's avoided many of the obvious cliches that you'd expect from that. For example, there's no clique of snooty girls that seem to dedicate themselves to making life miserable for Annie and Kat (a la Cordelia and her circle in the early seasons of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"); their only classroom nemesis is Winsbury (whom Annie and Kat are generally able to take care of very easily - and so is Alistair, for that matter; I doubt that Winsbury will dare make fun of him again after the great slam dunk). (Though if such a clique did exist in Annie's class, I think that they'd initially try recruiting her on account of her looks, only to discover that she's not at all interested in joining them - and would probably be even less keen on that once the aforesaid clique make the mistake of saying to her, "If you're going to be one of us, you're going to have to ditch the Donlan kid.")
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Post by mrw on May 20, 2007 3:15:15 GMT
I think you've hit on something that makes GC special - because now that you mention it, GC does not pander to cliches very much at all. There's only a few, and they are well executed.
It would be hard to make any comic involving humans without some cliches - in all likelyhood, it probably wouldn't be that good a comic if you didn't use any cliches at all, because it would be hard for the reader to relate to the characters.
I, for one, am very glad there are no cliques apparent in Gunnerkrigg Court - I find clique-based plots, ...well, cliche, drab, and dull.
Actually, I can't see Annie joining a clique anyway - they exist solely to boost the ego of the members by excluding others, and she's not that sort of person.
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Post by todd on May 20, 2007 10:27:54 GMT
Actually, I can't see Annie joining a clique anyway - they exist solely to boost the ego of the members by excluding others, and she's not that sort of person. I agree with you on that.
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Post by yeochild on May 20, 2007 13:00:59 GMT
Annie with an ego . . . now that would make for an interesting chapter. Would it just be Kat trying to raise her self-confidence and overdoing it, or would Annie's normally humble demeanor be shattered by magical means?
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Post by Broadus on May 21, 2007 4:24:02 GMT
Maaan, you guys totally seem to overanalyze this stuff. Maybe it's because I'm so lazy or something.
"Dear male readers: Don't let the guys know you're reading this stuff." Yeah, seriously.
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Post by Aspen d'Grey on May 21, 2007 14:44:42 GMT
Pfft. What else are we supposedd to do with our free time?
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