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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 13:52:33 GMT
Smitty's possible reaction: "NO, you almost got killed and you want to go near her again?? If anything happened to you... I'd... " {grabs her and holds her as tightly as she did him a minute ago}
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Post by zylonbane on Oct 8, 2010 14:01:08 GMT
I don't think Parley has thought her cunning plan all the way through.
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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 14:13:56 GMT
I don't think Parley has thought her cunning plan all the way through. I think Parley knows as soon as someone learns about Jeanne, no one will be allowed to go anywhere near Jeanne again. (And wisely so! She's deadly!) Unfortunately doing the correct and wise thing will utterly prevent our story from continuing.
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Post by zingbat on Oct 8, 2010 14:43:49 GMT
How does one safely talk to hate personified? I hope it involves Parley going back down to the Annan Waters with a sword (I think swords are neat do you think swords are neat).
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 8, 2010 15:58:09 GMT
Could it be that the Guides made a mistake and that Parley, rather than Annie, was the person who was supposed to solve Jeanne's problem all along? (Or did they know it was Parley's job, but gave the Blinker Stone to Annie, foreseeing that Parley would get involved that way?) I think that getting Annie involved was more hope than prescience. Eh, when you uncover a government conspiracy, you don't go to the administration. You go to the press. Keep in mind that this is the same administration that is currently tracking students through something in their food... How are they going to set up a meeting with Jeanne? Drop a note tied to a rock: "Hi, we'd like to talk...don't kill us" I like this plan. It's the sort of clever-yet-doomed to failure plan that a role-playing party would come up with, and result in hijinks.
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Post by evilanagram on Oct 8, 2010 16:00:11 GMT
Parley has joined the party! I don't see any reason to think that Parley knew anything about Jeanne at all. The Court tried as hard as it could to wipe her name from history, and any rumors about her would have been quelled by the cabal that killed her. When Kat mentions her name, Parley reveals that she didn't know the ghost's name and asks how Kat knows about her, since Parley had never heard about her. "The Court" killed her? It's not a sentient creat... Then again, Jones did once say that "the court has a way of making decisions" in a way that suggests it is its own entity. Still, no one who was in any way involved in that decision is still alive today. And why would you honor Young's decision to keep their actions hidden? The Court is a group of people. This group of people killed Jeanne and confined her to a fate worse than death.
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Post by lovecraft1024 on Oct 8, 2010 16:19:41 GMT
1) Yeah! And at the end, Smitty is thinking, "she let go..." I saw that, but I didn't want to dwell on the negative. It's a nice little detail that Tom put in there. I think it's funny just to imagine Smitty totally agog because she's acting nice with him instead of being in a once-sided wrestling match. Still, I'm sure he's just acting out of concern for her safety, and not with any romantic intent ;D
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Post by legion on Oct 8, 2010 16:21:38 GMT
Also, I just realised this now: we didn't get a summer break comic D:
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Post by Casey on Oct 8, 2010 16:25:18 GMT
Simplest explanation there is that summer break hasn't happened yet.
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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 16:35:28 GMT
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Post by percival on Oct 8, 2010 16:38:02 GMT
So Annie, Parley, and crew are setting out to free Jeanne from her hellish sub-existence. I wonder though, will they come up with some other way to fortify the Annan waters first? The founders' plan may have been evil in that they killed Jeanne and Greenman, but they may have had a very good reason to block forest beings from getting into the Court.
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Post by Max on Oct 8, 2010 16:40:28 GMT
I'm keep imagining that Annie and Kat went through *every* single chapter, regardless of how relevant they were:
Annie: So then all of the other kids were captured by the enigmarons and I had to go rescue them... Parley: ...Is this really important? Annie: It provides insight into my character.
To say nothing of how they would describe Chapter 22.
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Post by Elaienar on Oct 8, 2010 16:45:01 GMT
Parley: Wait, how do you know all that stuff if your parents never told you? Annie: I ... I'm not entirely sure.
Although according to the first law of etherics she just does, okay?
...Also it would have taken up too much room to say "Thirty chapters of exposition, minus chapter twenty-two, and also minus little bits of flashbacks that happen ever so often, later...."
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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 17:04:00 GMT
Annie: And then Kat said, "I knew it, I knew you were still alive" Kat: Wait, didn't I say, "They said you were alright" ? Annie: Just in the book version. Dear Tom: I laughed at the "Thirty chapters of exposition" line, I'm just poking fun as is my wont.
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Post by evilanagram on Oct 8, 2010 17:08:30 GMT
Did anyone else see Kat's line in panel 5 as a shout out to the obsession some people have with Jones?
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 8, 2010 17:13:49 GMT
Nah, it makes sense to consider her.
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Post by davidm on Oct 8, 2010 17:40:48 GMT
I suspect Parley has the "coward heart" in not declaring her love, as before wording "coward heart" was reference to "loving" Jeanne from afar. (Though not exactly same as Diego tried to 'love' Jeanne closer and was rejected)
Strangely Parley may also want some advice on love from Jeanne as Jeanne was good at being open with her lover.
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Post by zylonbane on Oct 8, 2010 18:04:47 GMT
I'd say it's about time Smitface gave Parley a blinker stone.
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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 18:13:20 GMT
I think Parley has a brave heart... would you go back down there so quickly?
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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 18:13:50 GMT
I'd say it's about time Smitface gave Parley a blinker stone. I second this one!
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Post by Ristar on Oct 8, 2010 20:34:50 GMT
*Cue "Eye of the Tiger" and some teleport training montage* I think Parley finally found an use for her ability
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Post by Casey on Oct 8, 2010 20:45:11 GMT
Good point, Jeanne can't trap Parley if she's there in the flesh. I hadn't thought of that. She can defend herself, and teleport out if things get too bad. Or just teleport 5 feet away until Jeanne gets the idea.
Girl really needs to train that ability now.
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Post by mojojojo on Oct 8, 2010 20:52:34 GMT
I think she suspects what I suggested a couple of days ago - Jeanne doesn't want to be the vicious killing the machine the court have tried to make her. Parley wants to work out whether Jeanne should be pitied or feared before anyone else gets involved. It ties in with what Parley said in the last issue. And the emotional response Jeanne's mind dump has caused would result in one of two responses - accept it's true and be sympathetic, or reject the "forced intimacy" and try and burn it with fire. If I'm right, it throws some light on Parley's etheric heart thing - Jeanne didn't do the life story thing until she saw Parley, and she was right since Parley is the one who isn't responding to the mind rape with a flamethrower. (It is a very clumsy term isn't it? It's an enforced intimacy, which not willingly received is horrible)
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Post by todd on Oct 8, 2010 22:22:09 GMT
Eh, when you uncover a government conspiracy, you don't go to the administration. You go to the press. Keep in mind that this is the same administration that is currently tracking students through something in their food... And then it probably turns out that the conspiracy has infiltrated the press.... (Though that does remind me of a silly little idea I'd had, back during the "Spring-Heeled" two-parter, of Jack getting cornered by the Court's police and pulling out his ultimatum - "I've rigged a system so that if anything happens to me, a full expose of the Court goes to every newspaper and television news station in the country!") Of course, the current faculty wouldn't know anything about Jeanne because of the Founders' cover-up (presumably the cover-up extended to the Founders not passing the information on to their successors, intending that it would die with them - which it would have done if Diego's weak-but-active conscience hadn't led to his including Jeanne's memory in the robots' programming) - and I don't think, anyway, that Eglamore, Mr. and Mrs. Donlan, the Headmaster, and the rest would stoop to the level of "Who else have you told about this?" "Nobody" "Good" - pulls out a gun.... Of course, the faculty might object to the removal of a defense against Gillitie Wood, as has been brought up before - though I've noticed that nobody in the comic itself has brought that up either. (Of course, something like that likely wouldn't occur to Annie and Kat; they're too idealistic to keep Jeanne in torment to keep the Court safe.)
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Post by rageboy on Oct 8, 2010 22:38:44 GMT
Andrew is...a lot more sensible than Kat and Annie,in that he actually wants to tell someone(most likely one of the teachers/staff),whereas Annie and Kat tend not to like involving the adults. I would say just Annie tends not to like involving adults. I feel like I remember Kat having said things to the effect of "We should tell someone" before. Basically Annie and Parley are similar (except Parley talks a lot) and Kat and Smits are similar (except Kat talks a lot) personality wise. Also last panel Smits is awesome. I didn't actually notice his expression until someone mentioned the hand-holding
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Post by wanderer on Oct 8, 2010 23:06:38 GMT
The Court is a group of people. This group of people killed Jeanne and confined her to a fate worse than death. That group of people is also DEAD in its entirety. Jeanne was not killed by "the Court" she was killed by a collection of individual people, all of whom are responsible for their decisions. Just because someone works for Gunnerkrigg Court now, that doesn't make them a part of that group that killed Jeanne.
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Post by jayne on Oct 8, 2010 23:16:23 GMT
The Court is a group of people. This group of people killed Jeanne and confined her to a fate worse than death. That group of people is also DEAD in its entirety. Jeanne was not killed by "the Court" she was killed by a collection of individual people, all of whom are responsible for their decisions. Just because someone works for Gunnerkrigg Court now, that doesn't make them a part of that group that killed Jeanne. Too much is unknown about the actual workings of the court. Its been proven that the people who established the court were willing to do what they did to Jeanne. What if nothing has changed and the current people running the court are willing to do something similar.
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Post by Casey on Oct 8, 2010 23:37:53 GMT
I think that what he's saying is while it is -possible- that they are willing to do something similar--as it is also -possible- that they are all pink aliens in disguise--it doesn't logically follow to say that it's any more -likely- that they are based solely on the fact that someone else was at some time in the past.
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Post by xheralt on Oct 9, 2010 2:32:05 GMT
Could it be that the Guides made a mistake and that Parley, rather than Annie, was the person who was supposed to solve Jeanne's problem all along? I don't think any one of them would be able to deal with Jeanne; my sense is that it will take a combination of talents (possibly more than just Annie, George, Andrew, and Kat!) to resolve the problem. And heartlessness aside, Jeanne does serve a function; "good fences make good neighbors", something will need to replace Jeanne as defense/gatekeeper. Maybe something a little more "user-friendly", but something more than nothing whatsoever.
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Post by Snes on Oct 9, 2010 2:43:10 GMT
Annie: And then the rain made the world melt away and it turned out it wasn't me after all, it was really Zimmy and Zimmy was really me. Parley: But then how did you know everything she and Gamma said? And why didn't you explain anything about what you and Jack were doing? Annie: Best not to ask.
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