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Post by Charlotte on May 21, 2010 20:41:21 GMT
[...]In 614 , a nobody is walking towards Jack while he holds the blinker stone, Zimmy being nowhere around. He is in his dungeon Nemesis on his own. Uhh, actually, he was sensing Annie's ether-self. Yeah, I know. But that has nothing to do with the fact that the nobody is there. In fact, now that I look at it again, I wonder if Annie has seen the nobody, even though Jack hasn't, which then makes me wonder if Tom's comment "Now that ain't right" refers to Jack taking Annie's blinker stone or the nobody creeping up on Jack. I always thought it sounded awkward referring to Jack taking the stone -- that is, the comment doesn't come until after Annie has taken it back -- but now that I read it as being about Annie seeing a nobody where no nobody ought to be, it sounds more sensible.
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 21, 2010 21:49:11 GMT
Where do you see the nobody walking up to Jack?
EDIT: "Now that ain't right" refers to the spider on Jack's face.
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Post by the bandit on May 21, 2010 22:27:54 GMT
...but now that I read it as being about Annie seeing a nobody where no nobody ought to be, it sounds more sensible. I can feel my brain being twisted by the warp.
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Post by Charlotte on May 22, 2010 19:32:59 GMT
Where do you see the nobody walking up to Jack? Just to the right of Jack's speech bubble saying "Who's there?" on 614. If this were a tic-tac-toe, it would be the middle row up-and-down and the far right row side-to-side. Annie has her hair pulled back over her left ear. She has turned her head away from Jack and you can see the back of her head and her left ear. She is facing the nobody, who looks like an old lady in a pullover with black marks covering her face. There's a lot of things that ain't right in this picture.
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 22, 2010 19:57:03 GMT
Uh, that's Jack.
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Post by judgedeadd on May 23, 2010 7:29:22 GMT
I put my imagination on the highest setting and still can barely comprehend how could that Jack be mistook for an old lady with black marks on face.
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Post by Charlotte on May 23, 2010 9:00:43 GMT
I put my imagination on the highest setting and still can barely comprehend how could that Jack be mistook for an old lady with black marks on face. It's tricky using left and right as a reference in a comic with characters who have their own internal left and right. The nobody is to *our* right of the "who's there?" speech bubble. Even so, you should be able to see it. Perhaps you need to adjust the brightness or contrast on your screen. I'll extract it for you and eliminate the dark background. No doubt it was drawn obscure deliberately. Now, if you still can't see it, perhaps there are deep, traumatic memories from your childhood :-).
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Post by La Goon on May 23, 2010 10:03:02 GMT
That's Jack seen from behind. I'm sorry, but I too have a hard time imagining how you could possibly see that as an old lady with marks on her face. I think what's confusing you is that there are 3 'panels' in the middle 'row' (if we just for a moment imagine that the page has panels). The first one with Jack and Annie in it, the second with just Jack and the third with both of them again. You're seeing the last two 'panels' as one (featuring Jack seen from the front, Jack seen from behind and Annie seen from behind). Hope it's clear now
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Post by nikita on May 23, 2010 10:59:10 GMT
I guess if your brain is interpreting it as a nobody when you first see it, it's a bit harder to convince your brain that it's in fact just Jack from behind and vice versa. For those who don't see the no-nobody: Green are facial features (eyes, nose, mouth) I added so you can find/recognize where the face is to be found more easily. Pink are outlines that actually exist in the original page. It's a bit like those optical illusions - cubes that can be seen from two sides simultaneously and you have to watch it for a while until your brain finally switches.
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 23, 2010 16:17:49 GMT
That thing at the bottom of the neck would be the hood of his sweatshirt, an indication that we're seeing that guy's back.
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Post by Charlotte on May 23, 2010 20:36:59 GMT
Ah... I see what you mean. I can see them both now. Fascinating.
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Post by Casey on May 24, 2010 4:12:04 GMT
Don't worry about it, I see nobodies all the time too.
Why, just now, I was sitting here at my desk, and I turned around, and wouldn't you know, nobody was there!
Needless to say, I was startled.
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Post by tyler on May 24, 2010 18:37:36 GMT
Don't worry about it, I see nobodies all the time too. Why, just now, I was sitting here at my desk, and I turned around, and wouldn't you know, nobody was there! Needless to say, I was startled. AntigonishYesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today I wish, I wish he’d go away... When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldn’t see him there at all! Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door... (slam!) Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today Oh, how I wish he’d go away --Hughes Mearns
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 25, 2010 6:00:41 GMT
That poem is terrifying.
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Post by Yin on May 25, 2010 7:12:44 GMT
I'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you -- Nobody -- Too? Then there's a pair of us! Don't tell! they'd advertise -- you know!
How dreary -- to be -- Somebody! How public -- like a Frog -- To tell one's name -- the livelong June -- To an admiring Bog!
- Emily Dickinson
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Post by warrl on May 25, 2010 10:18:31 GMT
I'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you -- Nobody -- Too? Then there's a pair of us! Don't tell! they'd advertise -- you know! How dreary -- to be -- Somebody! How public -- like a Frog -- To tell one's name -- the livelong June -- To an admiring Bog! - Emily Dickinson He's a real nowhere man Living in his nowhere land Making all his nowhere plans For nobody. Doesn't have a point of view Knows not where he's going to Isn't he a bit like you And me - J. Lennon
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