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Post by basser on Nov 11, 2009 17:15:32 GMT
And yet all I can think of is the fact that Kat has, technically, said "lolwut."
THANK YOU, INTERNET.
My first bet is Smit and Parley, cos Annie's seen more of them than any other couple really. She's probably all bothered from some episode of them not getting together after the whole matchmaker-Jones incident.
Or I could be completely wrong.
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Post by rageboy on Nov 11, 2009 17:16:22 GMT
My bet is that Annie's thinking about ol' Smitty and Parley. Their situation certainly is the most perplexing, not to mention immediate and relevant. While it's possible she may be referring to the romances of her parents' generation, the only one she really knows about concretely is Reynardine's longing for Surma (which doesn't really fall under the scope of the mentioned denial). But we don't know what she may have learned since we saw her last, either. I tend to agree with jon77 here: To me, Annie looks a bit upset and overwrought. I don't think Smitty/Parley or Janet/William would do that to her. I'm guessing it has to do with her mom, one way or another. It's pretty much the only thing we've seen that gets her upset.
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Post by nikita on Nov 11, 2009 17:43:45 GMT
I don't think that Annie was at medium class. She and Kat are both in civilian clothes Kat is. Annie - I don't know. I think "Ha ha! What?" should become the official reply to any shipper statements. ;D
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Post by the bandit on Nov 11, 2009 19:13:35 GMT
To me, Annie looks a bit upset and overwrought. I don't think Smitty/Parley ... would do that to her. A question to any: If the events surrounding and the manifestation of Parley's teleportative abilities may be characterized as "fertilizer," given the nature of Parley's personality and Smitty's terror of her, is it more reasonable to speculate the fertilizer would have been used as an ingredient for vibrant blooms of love -- or for a destructive bomb?
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Post by rye on Nov 11, 2009 19:30:30 GMT
It's can't be Annie because that doesn't gel with what she actually said. She's referring to two people who are denying they're in love. If one of them was her, she would not be talking about love because she would be denying it. Basically the parameters of her question rule out the possibility of the question referring to her. Hm...****, you´re probably right, no cookies for me. So still no romance for our cool heroine after 25 chapters? OH! How about she said that in that manner cause she wants to hide, that she´s the one who´s in love and also knows that the other one loves her, but both denied it and she has no idea why she (and he?) do/did something so stupid, but Kat saw right through it and that´s why she said *Haha. What?*........................... Nah, sounds dumb, but on the other hand she was a bit pink in her face. Could be the cold weather of cource. But i thought that way cause why should she be bother by others love troubles? i mean, she looked really troubled, but she doesn´t seems like the typ who butts in everybodys love problems. Also at the bonus page she had the same eyes like Jack in chapter 24, so i guessed something has happend between them. There was still that unspoken discussion between them about Anme and Kat being outsiders cause of her. Remember it was Kat, not her who tried to argue with Jack. Maybe at that night she and him met again and this time Anme defended herself. Besides, it would make things quite interesting if the *creep* and the *ice queen* share some feelings for each other, but it could be that i´m the only one who thinks so.^^
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Post by the bandit on Nov 11, 2009 19:48:08 GMT
Ha ha!
What?
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Post by guyy on Nov 11, 2009 19:48:25 GMT
I really doubt she means Smitty/Parley, since at least one of them is anything but in denial. Annie probably doesn't even know about Janet/William, so that's even less likely. Since no one linked the page, here is the page that I also believe the current scene is meant to remind us of. Today's PagePrevious PageMore specifically, this page. So, it does seem most likely she's talking about her mother and Eglamore ("Jim"). Though it's hard to guess how she knows about it...
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Post by Per on Nov 11, 2009 19:56:00 GMT
I really doubt she means Smitty/Parley, since at least one of them is anything but in denial. However, in the very next page Rey used the word "denial" in reference to Smitty.
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Post by wombat on Nov 11, 2009 20:03:52 GMT
And yet all I can think of is the fact that Kat has, technically, said "lolwut." THANK YOU, INTERNET. You just made this page twice as funny for me.
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Post by Toku on Nov 11, 2009 20:18:41 GMT
Perhaps I've been reading too many webcomics, but the first time I read it, my mind converted it to the Twitter-post suffix "haha WOO".
Which is inane. But funny.
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Post by Casey on Nov 11, 2009 20:21:54 GMT
I really doubt she means Smitty/Parley, since at least one of them is anything but in denial. However, in the very next page Rey used the word "denial" in reference to Smitty. I think that the denial Rey was referring to was not Smitty denying that he liked Parley. Smitty basically said as much. I think Rey was referring to the possibility that Smitty was denying the evidence that Parley liked him. Evidence that he perhaps couldn't see because he couldn't imagine someone like Parley could like him. In short then, I don't think Smitty and Parley are in denial about their feelings. I think Smitty lacks confidence in his feelings for Parley, and I think Parley lacks understanding of her feelings for Smitty. Moving on, in general, not directed at anyone in particular, I personally thought it was pretty self-evident that Ch. 24's bonus page was ONLY meant to be Annie playing a practical joke on Rey. I'd like to know, though, if this is what the majority of us thought about this too. And I only mention it because it was brought up. Finally, after further reflection, I don't think that Eglamore and Surma ever denied their feelings either. In the flashback sequence at the end of S1, it appears from Surma's words that she was in a full-on relationship with James. Something must have just happened to that relationship, causing her to end up with Anthony. So if the denied feelings aren't Eglamore/Surma, and they aren't Parley/Smitty, and they aren't Janet/Willie (because everyone knows they're in love, and they just do a horrible job of hiding it, which isn't the same thing as denying it) and it isn't Jack/Annie (because really, that's preposterous) then who else could it be? ...What about Surma/Reynardine? Remember Coyote told Annie how Rey was madly in love with Surma... so much so, that he killed a young boy in a misguided attempt to be with her. Yet Reynardine never talks about that with Annie. Maybe Annie is starting to see Reynardine's caring side, and is starting to remember what Coyote said, and is starting to wonder about the events of her mother's generation that led things to be the way they are today.
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 11, 2009 20:28:27 GMT
But where'd Sky Watcher rush off to? a) Runs to his best pals in order to Spread The Word right now. b) Wants to be alone and sort all the news out due to being mentally messed up (i told ye). c) Simply returns to the workplace, which doesn't mean he will not use all leftover CPU resources to contemplate the revelation from now on. d) He flew to ghost Jeanne he saw from above, for visual comparison purpose. IMHO, (b) & (c). My bet is that Annie's thinking about ol' Smitty and Parley. Their situation certainly is the most perplexing, not to mention immediate and relevant. I really doubt she means Smitty/Parley, since at least one of them is anything but in denial. Yes, but this variant is obviously most exasperating for her, and just look at her expression. I think "Ha ha! What?" should become the official reply to any shipper statements. Hmm. Good point. Meme Injection Yay! ...What?
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Post by tyler on Nov 11, 2009 20:50:39 GMT
Guys, she's clearly troubled because she had to walk all the way to Kat's workshop and forgot to use the restroom before leaving. Duh.
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Post by Ulysses on Nov 11, 2009 22:05:54 GMT
In short then, I don't think Smitty and Parley are in denial about their feelings. I think Smitty lacks confidence in his feelings for Parley, and I think Parley lacks understanding of her feelings for Smitty. If she doesn't understand that she's in love then her probable reaction to someone bringing up the possibility is going to be anger and denial. We've seen her act like that before i.e. after the embarassing situation at the end of Chapter 23. As for Smitty, he's admitted that he thinks Parley is "hotter than hell" but that is different to being in love. I do think he loves her, but he may well be denying an emotional attachment by openly professing a physical attraction to cover it up. "I don't love her, I just think she's hot is all" (hypothetical quote). Obviously we don't know yet, but you can see how it might be Parley and Andrew? Moving on, in general, not directed at anyone in particular, I personally thought it was pretty self-evident that Ch. 24's bonus page was ONLY meant to be Annie playing a practical joke on Rey. I'd like to know, though, if this is what the majority of us thought about this too. And I only mention it because it was brought up. I too thought this was fairly obvious. I'd worry about anyone who thought Annie was being serious.
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Post by the bandit on Nov 11, 2009 22:18:02 GMT
If you're going to speculate on this, you're doing backwards. The question is not which couples might deny their love for each other, but which denial would frustrate Annie enough to make her unhappy? Hints: The more obvious the couple and/or the closer in relation to Annie would be the main factors.
But seriously, just wait 'til Friday to find out who. This isn't a new mystery; it's a page break.
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Post by Rasselas on Nov 11, 2009 22:30:47 GMT
Ooooh, Surma/Reynardine. Interesting guess. More specifically, this page. So, it does seem most likely she's talking about her mother and Eglamore ("Jim"). Though it's hard to guess how she knows about it... Oh! This jogs my memory a bit. Perhaps the robots really were waiting for something special to happen - perhaps they were waiting for one of Diego's skills to return! And do.. what? In relation to Jeanne, as well.. what? If you were an awesome scientist with unrequited love, what would you make your robots do after you're long gone? This is going to rock.
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Post by todd on Nov 11, 2009 23:20:13 GMT
Therefore I think we should (this is going to sound familiar) just sit on it and wait until the next page where I'm sure we'll learn something more. But no, here we are again trying to make sure all the wildest speculation angles are covered in everyone's desperate scramble for the elusive "cookie". I don't think it's so much for the competition as that the whole point of the forum is to discuss the comic, so we're naturally discussing the events on the current page. (Perhaps that's the drawback - or one of the drawbacks - of reading it one page at a time every two days.)
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Post by Casey on Nov 11, 2009 23:27:40 GMT
You're probably right Todd. I think there's a line, though, between discussing things that happen on the page and making wild speculations based on hopes and secret wishes rather than based on the events of the page. I grant that that line can be fuzzy at times, but... next we're going to have someone speculating that the denied love Annie is speaking of is Anja and Donny because in this page they pull away from each other rather than show their love. Yeah. That's how the level of speculation can tend to sound. I'm all in favor of reasonable discussion based on demonstrable points, though.
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Post by wynne on Nov 12, 2009 0:37:02 GMT
The google ads at the bottom of this page are amusing.
My first thought was that Annie might be referring to Jeanne and Diego, because a) their relationship (or lack of one) is so central to the mystery of the court, and thus might cause Annie consternation, b) Muut told Annie to try and help Jeanne, and said unsaid feelings could, presumably, result in Jeanne's condition, and c) maybe Annie spends her time on weekends researching Jeanne and Diego, and so found something related to them that brought her reaction to Kat on.
My second thought was "Wait, that's completely ridiculus for a whole bunch of reasons, such as Diego's complete awareness of how he felt towards Jeanne, and the fact that no one save the robots and Annie seems to have even heard of Jeanne before, so they probably aren't even mentioned in the library, or at least where Annie could easily find it (though she could find some secret room, like with Basil). Never mind."
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Post by popo on Nov 12, 2009 0:54:20 GMT
maybe she just read a book or saw a movie about lovers in denial.
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Post by Casey on Nov 12, 2009 1:03:47 GMT
What? No! There is no place for simple logic here!
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Post by Mezzaphor on Nov 12, 2009 3:59:25 GMT
I think "Ha ha! What?" should become the official reply to any shipper statements. Kat really has a lot of good retorts.
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Post by tyler on Nov 12, 2009 11:22:29 GMT
It may be (if it's not a bladder thing) that she's simply upset that she doesn't understand the problem. Bright people can actually get kind of worried when they come up against something they can't grasp.
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Post by Robo Alchemist on Nov 12, 2009 13:32:42 GMT
I think "Ha ha! What?" should become the official reply to any shipper statements. Kat really has a lot of good retorts. Bahahaha! So if there's any type of crazy, so far out there speculation that it can't even be called wild speculation, we should just post an image of Kat as the only response. ;D
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Post by Ulysses on Nov 12, 2009 16:25:16 GMT
I think "Ha ha! What?" should become the official reply to any shipper statements. Kat really has a lot of good retorts. I'm saving those links for future use. They will come in very useful. Hey, the couple in question could be Anja and Donny because in this page they pull away from each other. ;D *watches to see if Casey pulls his hair out*
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Post by Casey on Nov 12, 2009 18:35:25 GMT
Hey, I beat you to that speculation (sort of).
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Post by Ulysses on Nov 12, 2009 19:06:08 GMT
I think Irony Speculations should now be referred to as iSpecs. And Steve Jobs can charge us another £100 for the inevitable upgrades.
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Post by tyler on Nov 12, 2009 22:03:42 GMT
I think we're going to end up with some sort of periodic table or spectrum of speculation soon.
I'm just not sure whether Ironic Spec is on the Useless Spec side, or Wild Spec side. It could go on either, but I guess that would then make a spectrum more messed up.
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Post by Mylian on Nov 13, 2009 0:08:25 GMT
You keep that speculum of spectration to yourself.
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Post by todd on Nov 13, 2009 1:07:00 GMT
While I still don't think that Annie's talking about herself as one of those two people (if she was, she'd probably know why she was denying her love - unless she was asking a rhetorical question), it does seem easy to jump to that conclusion after the last time we saw her was the exchange with Reynardine on the Bonus Page for the previous chapter, where she admits that she missed him.
But I hope that Tom isn't taking an "Annie and Reynardine in love" route. For one thing, Reynardine is an adult while Annie's thirteen at most, which would make it disturbing (fortunately, Surma was an adult when Reynardine became smitten with her). Reynardine's past feelings for Surma would make it even more awkward (not to mention his current wolf-form). Developing friendship for each other, yes, but I hope there won't be romantic love in the mix.
I hope (and think it most likely) that Annie's talking about two other people.
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