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Post by wanderer on Sept 30, 2009 14:24:41 GMT
So now that they've thought of everything, all we can do is wait and see which part of their ingenious plan goes wrong first. Try not to get possessed, Annie.
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Post by Snes on Sept 30, 2009 14:27:04 GMT
You know what I find funny? A bunch of people were pushing this theory over the past few weeks, and now that it's been mentioned in-comic, nobody's taking credit for the idea. Annie's remarks today pretty much proves the whole theory wrong.
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Post by wanderer on Sept 30, 2009 14:38:22 GMT
You know what I find funny? A bunch of people were pushing this theory over the past few weeks, and now that it's been mentioned in-comic, nobody's taking credit for the idea. Annie's remarks today pretty much proves the whole theory wrong. Well, yeah. The posts are a matter of public record, so it's not like anyone is trying to hide what we thought. At the time it seemed likely, for a number of reasons which are still valid. But Tom is big on plot twisty-ness. The very fact that the characters now believe this to be a trick makes it much more unlikely that it actually is a trick. Besides, I've found that if you think you've figured out what's going on in Tom's story, you're probably further from the answer than you were before.
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Post by gaia on Sept 30, 2009 15:05:26 GMT
Either Annie won't be able to feel her stone, or when she goes to look there'll be a freaky mindscrew thing, or a glitchy aura like the stylish spider motif Jack's modelling, and she won't be able to see any of the students. Those are my theories.
IIRC, Tom said we wouldn't like this chapter? Maybe Kat and the others won't be back by the end and it'll just be Winsbury, Annie and Jack for the rest of the comic.
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Post by Mishmash on Sept 30, 2009 15:10:41 GMT
Yeah or maybe the blinker stone will come to life and insist everyone call him 'Blinky' and he will be Annie's sidekick in the whole new adventues of Annie, William and Jack, the only students at Gunnerkrigg Court!
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Post by Max on Sept 30, 2009 15:51:04 GMT
I love how Genre savvy Tom is. Of course, now that he's laid it out like that, it's less likely that this is a trick, innit? Except we've now all figured that out, so it actually will be just a trick. It will just keep wrapping around indefinitely. So I see three possibilities: - It really is a trick to teach them some sort of life lesson, like teamwork and problem-solving. One wonders how these lessons will be imparted to the "kidnapped" children. Note that there could still be a real ghost, but it just isn't malicious.
- The children are in genuine danger, and the teachers really did just abandon and entire class of kids without any protection
- The teachers intended it as a trick, but it quickly becomes dangerous anyway.
Personally, I think what's going to happen is either option 1 or 3. They will be investigating the teacher's tricks and freeing their classmates, and in the process will make a major discovery and/or get into real danger
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Post by jon77 on Sept 30, 2009 16:05:20 GMT
Either Annie won't be able to feel her stone, or when she goes to look there'll be a freaky mindscrew thing, or a glitchy aura like the stylish spider motif Jack's modelling, and she won't be able to see any of the students. Those are my theories. Just out of perverseness, I'm going to say that Kat will get kidnapped and when Annie looks for her blinker stone she will find it... with Jack.
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Post by Casey on Sept 30, 2009 16:10:13 GMT
Kat's hairband magically changed from purple to greenish on Monday's page. It is now ground/grass colored. Nanotechnology?
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Post by maratanos on Sept 30, 2009 16:21:09 GMT
I love how Genre savvy Tom is. Of course, now that he's laid it out like that, it's less likely that this is a trick, innit? Except we've now all figured that out, so it actually will be just a trick. It will just keep wrapping around indefinitely. So I see three possibilities: - It really is a trick to teach them some sort of life lesson, like teamwork and problem-solving. One wonders how these lessons will be imparted to the "kidnapped" children. Note that there could still be a real ghost, but it just isn't malicious.
- The children are in genuine danger, and the teachers really did just abandon and entire class of kids without any protection
- The teachers intended it as a trick, but it quickly becomes dangerous anyway.
Personally, I think what's going to happen is either option 1 or 3. They will be investigating the teacher's tricks and freeing their classmates, and in the process will make a major discovery and/or get into real danger There's always #4, which is that the teachers intend it to be a test, as a result of which, they put them in real danger with real consequences because there's no other way for the test to work when dealing with suspicious kids who think it's a trick.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 30, 2009 16:35:23 GMT
Kat's hairband magically changed from purple to greenish on Monday's page. It is now ground/grass colored. Nanotechnology? Magic
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Post by Nut on Sept 30, 2009 16:46:59 GMT
Nice to see Winsbury getting a chance to participate for once, instead of being an antagonist or part of a joke. This has been a great chapter for character development all around. If this is a trick, it will most likely play out as Max suggested and the kids will run into a real problem while trying to figure out the teachers’ game. It may just give the different camps reason to join forces, which will cause Annie to run into Jack again, and they’ll either be forced to work together or Jack will go off alone and Annie will try to find out what’s going on with him. If it’s a test, it could work the same way, although I’ve never been under the impression that the Gunnerkrigg teachers were inclined to put kids in genuine danger for the sake of learning. In that case, I’d expect this to be a controlled environment, with the teachers hanging around nearby to bail the kids out if there’s trouble. Or the laser cows might intervene if things got serious, seeing as Eglamore seems comfortable leaving the kids in their care. Then Annie’s blinker stone might be able to mess things up with its ability to bypass the cows’ sensors. If this isn’t a trick, I‘ll speculate wildly that Jack is involved with the disaster. Maybe he’s been spreading invisible spiders all over the Court without anyone noticing. Either way, I’m looking forward to seeing more about Jack. I’ve been wanting to see his character developed since the Power Station chapter, and all the changes in his personality are making me more curious what really happened to him back there. Also, Kat in the last panel makes me crack up. I somehow doubt that it’ll be Eglamore who winds up kidnapping her. Kat's hairband magically changed from purple to greenish on Monday's page. It is now ground/grass colored. Nanotechnology? Today’s page represents a new day; maybe she decided to wear a different hairband. I thought the greenish color was due to the shadows around the campfire. (Although, seeing how it looks to be the same color as the ground behind her, maybe it's a coloring mistake. Or, yeah, magic!)
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Post by gaia on Sept 30, 2009 17:53:48 GMT
Yeah or maybe the blinker stone will come to life and insist everyone call him 'Blinky' and he will be Annie's sidekick in the whole new adventues of Annie, William and Jack, the only students at Gunnerkrigg Court! Jar Jar Blinks.
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Post by sebastian on Sept 30, 2009 19:39:46 GMT
Kat's reaction is so great. And yeah, now that the characters themselves think it's a trick by the adults, it makes me more suspicious that it's just a red herring. OTOH that is exactly the reaction Tom would expect to get with that comment. But seriously, it must be a trick of some kind, Eglamore if not the rest of the Court would never leave the children alone if there was some kind of danger around, Beside the fact that he is not an idiot, Anja would kill him if something bad was to happen to Kat.
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Post by Rasselas on Sept 30, 2009 19:58:24 GMT
Hehe, it'd be funny if Kat got kidnapped, Annie checks up on her through the blinker stone, and the first face she sees is Jack. But only later they all realize that Jack also had been kidnapped by the ghost.
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Post by digikitty on Sept 30, 2009 20:05:45 GMT
Its probably Bob and Eglamore both, and instead of Eglamore taking Kat, its going to be Bob instead, to Kat's great disappointment.
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Post by gaia on Sept 30, 2009 20:15:23 GMT
So this is a new danger? The ghost's always been around, it's just never been a problem before.
Theory: it's after the blonde girl. It's also very crap at recognizing faces.
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Post by wynne on Sept 30, 2009 21:38:03 GMT
Question 1: Where are they getting their food?
Question 2: How many kids are in the "other" groups, and how come we haven't seen them?
Question 3: How are these kids organizing themselves? (though I think their collective, "anyone with something useful to contribute speak up while we try to figure out what the hell's going on" is a pretty realistic response to this kind of situation.)
I love how logically these kids conclude that it must be a conspiracy theory. Though in truth, it makes sense; they are still in the Court, under the protection of laser cows, and from their point of view this might seem like a spookier, less exciting, more realistic Dr. Disaster-type lesson. Plus, on our end, Paz didn't exactly look terrified when she was about to get snatched. Of course, now that this has been thought of, we enter into a vicious, never-ending cycle of self-doubt and attempted outsmarting, a la the Duel of Wits in the Princess Bride. Also, I think Kat's a bit too excited about the prospect of getting kidnapped by Eglamore.
I predict that soon Annie'll wish she'd brought her travel friendly expandable vicious sentient magical guard wolf along.
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Post by todd on Sept 30, 2009 22:23:41 GMT
IIRC, Tom said we wouldn't like this chapter? I think that the part he predicted we'd have problems has already taken place; the confrontation between Annie and Jack that produced a big discussion over which of them was right. Just for the fun of it, another Wild Speculation: the emergency back at the Court was Ysengrin's seeds finally sprouting, and possessing the faculty there. The means by which the Court alerted Eglamore and Bob also allowed the seeds' mind control ability to transfer itself by that communications link, possessing both of them, and directing them to abandon the children, thus allowing the ghost to make off with them (presumably choosing that route rather than having them spread the mind control infection to the children because, let's say, the mind control only works on adults). Presumably the possessed adults will then find other ways to dispose of those students at the Court not at the Recreational, and then yield themselves up to Ysengrin, allowing him to conquer the Court at last and revert it to being part of the forest. Or is this one too wild?
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Post by Jiminiminy on Sept 30, 2009 23:42:27 GMT
Question 1: Where are they getting their food? I'd imagine that Eggers and Bob didn't take all of the food with them when they left. Or any of it, considering the (apparent) urgency of the situation. I'm sure at least some of the kids there can cook up something or another. Or maybe the laser cows double as a walking mini-fridge. Question 2: How many kids are in the "other" groups, and how come we haven't seen them? I'm imagine that the "groups" consist of the respective classes, 8qn, 8qs, etc, etc. I believe that that means about thirty people in each group: Fifteen boys, fifteen girls, correct me if I'm wrong. Question 3: How are these kids organizing themselves? (though I think their collective, "anyone with something useful to contribute speak up while we try to figure out what the hell's going on" is a pretty realistic response to this kind of situation.) When presented with a situation, pretty much everyone can form at least some form of useful cohesion. Organization isn't very complex an idea, I'm not sure why you really need to question how they can do it. I love how logically these kids conclude that it must be a conspiracy theory. Though in truth, it makes sense; they are still in the Court, under the protection of laser cows, and from their point of view this might seem like a spookier, less exciting, more realistic Dr. Disaster-type lesson. Plus, on our end, Paz didn't exactly look terrified when she was about to get snatched. Of course, now that this has been thought of, we enter into a vicious, never-ending cycle of self-doubt and attempted outsmarting, a la the Duel of Wits in the Princess Bride. Also, I think Kat's a bit too excited about the prospect of getting kidnapped by Eglamore. I'm sure that, given the girls previous enthusiasm, any one of them would be pretty willing to be kidnapped by Jimmy. I predict that soon Annie'll wish she'd brought her travel friendly expandable vicious sentient magical guard wolf along. I wish I brought my travel friendly expandable vicious sentient magical guard wolf along wherever I went. Just for the fun of it, another Wild Speculation: -Words- Or is this one too wild? Rather interesting. Completely ridiculous to expect, but rather interesting. That is to say, yes, a little too wild. Kat's hairband magically changed from purple to greenish on Monday's page. It is now ground/grass colored. Nanotechnology? Kat is a fan of MGS, right? Maybe she made herself an OctoCamo hairband.
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Post by wynne on Oct 1, 2009 3:24:59 GMT
When presented with a situation, pretty much everyone can form at least some form of useful cohesion. Organization isn't very complex an idea, I'm not sure why you really need to question how they can do it. I guess what I mean is, who gets to be the leader, and why, or whether or not the different groups are banding together or not. Basically, can they take care of themselves, or are they going to go all Lord of the Flies on each other? These are obviously very intelligent, and probably very mature kids, but they're still just kids. It's not a particularly vital question as of yet, but you never know, maybe if the situation keeps getting worse it'll become vital.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 1, 2009 7:34:36 GMT
Either Annie won't be able to feel her stone, or when she goes to look there'll be a freaky mindscrew thing, or a glitchy aura like the stylish spider motif Jack's modelling, and she won't be able to see any of the students. Or Kat will be alredy "there" (wherever it is) and Annie will be able to see her, but not to track. And of course Kat wouldn't see her and it will not occur to her she can relate the story into the empty air... Just out of perverseness, I'm going to say that Kat will get kidnapped and when Annie looks for her blinker stone she will find it... with Jack. Because he accidentally summoned it. And everyone. Now you see how well it fits? It is now ground/grass colored. Nanotechnology? Grass-o-technology. Or maybe the laser cows double as a walking mini-fridge. ...after all, they're liquid nitrogen-weeping.
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Post by jon77 on Oct 1, 2009 9:31:11 GMT
Ok, here's another theory: Kat gets kidnapped, but the blinker stone is found lying on the ground where Kat was last standing. The kids are kidnapped etherically, and the etheric-transportation mechanism doesn't work on blinker stones. Kat's disappearance just adds to the tension and urgency.
Also, isn't it strange that Annie is still so eager to use the blinker stone as a spying tool? She's already had two surprises (Rey and Jack), plus an explicit warning from Reynardine, but she still can't give it up.
Maybe the kids just don't have any better ideas...
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Post by digikitty on Oct 1, 2009 12:31:16 GMT
well, just because its not recommended to use a blinker stone to spy on someone, doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be used for such purposes when the situation calls for it. After all, the person who the stone is going with knows that they are going to be the "eyes" for the rest of the remaining children, so as long as the one kidnapping the kids isn't aware of the stone, its not a bad idea.
Also, just because the kids have now decided that the teachers are just tricking them doesn't mean that the theory everyone guessed earlier is no longer valid. People have managed to guess key plot points in the past, and will probably do so in the future, so my vote is still for the "Teachers are behind the disappearance/its all a trick" theory
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Post by jon77 on Oct 1, 2009 13:55:50 GMT
The point is, so far Annie is 2-for-2 in the getting-caught-while-spying-with-the-blinker-stone department, which might suggest to her a bit of caution when dealing with a 'ghost'. Of course, if she's so sure it's one of the teachers, and that the ghost doesn't exist, then there's no reason for her to be cautious, in her mind. Let's see what the ghost thinks about being spied on
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Post by gaia on Oct 1, 2009 14:31:54 GMT
Or maybe Kat won't get kidnapped at all! There'll be a page with Kat wandering about in the forest with the blinker stone going "Oh woe is me, I am so alone and kidnappable" while everyone else gets kidnapped in the background. And then she'll turn around and see everyone else is gone and be like "...oh sod."
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Post by crysiana on Oct 2, 2009 3:22:29 GMT
Or maybe Kat won't get kidnapped at all! There'll be a page with Kat wandering about in the forest with the blinker stone going "Oh woe is me, I am so alone and kidnappable" while everyone else gets kidnapped in the background. And then she'll turn around and see everyone else is gone and be like "...oh sod." I'm putting my money down on Annie's being kidnapped, personally. Think about it.
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Post by Max on Oct 2, 2009 3:26:18 GMT
Well, if the kids are smart, they'll all stick together and send Kat off on her own as the designated victim.
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