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Post by warrl on May 4, 2009 22:47:43 GMT
I'm thinking that Mr. Siddell got an advance look at Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition somehow. (Or maybe some of the writers contributing to that effort read Gunnerkrigg Court.) Because messrs. Eglamore (in Annie's time, of course) and Thorn are rather obviously Swordmages.
* They both use a two-handed sword as a thrown weapon. Some Swordmage powers require that the weapon be thrown and impel it to physically improbable trajectories. * Apparently they are both pretty good at jumping. Swordmages have a number of ways of moving freely and rapidly. * In the meeting with Coyote, Eglamore did not have a sword until the frame where he was chopping at Ysengrim's arm with one. A Swordmage can bond with a specific sword and, once bonded, magically retrieve it from a certain distance (50 feet, maybe more). But that's a standard action, so the Swordmage can't do another standard action (such as a full attack) in the same round. Thus all Eglamore got was an opportunity attack as Ysengrim attacked past him. An opportunity attack doesn't include spell-casting.
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Post by Per on May 4, 2009 23:36:20 GMT
It died and they did nothing.
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Post by clementine on May 5, 2009 0:46:03 GMT
Bahaha, Donny reminds me RIDICULOUSLY of some boys I know in panel 2. Replace the protective purple barrier with answers to some difficult work, and it would be exact.
Also, about throwing the sword, our favorite dragon slayer's sword looks more aerodynamic than a normal one. Plus, it freaking glooooows, maaaaaan! It's probably got a homing device in it or something.
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Post by Dentrala on May 5, 2009 4:36:40 GMT
No worries Putte, we all get it wrong the first time.
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Post by reyo on May 5, 2009 7:32:27 GMT
You're all wrong. It's... BOXBOT! *cue dramatic music*
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Post by Kuraru on May 5, 2009 8:15:24 GMT
I have a sneaking suspicision that this is the event in which Jeanne died. Maybe Jeanne wanted to join the forest, and was being taken there in the form of a shadow person. Now Thorn's killed their ride, and them with it.
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Post by Casey on May 5, 2009 8:19:50 GMT
I have a sneaking suspicision that this is the event in which Jeanne died. Maybe Jeanne wanted to join the forest, and was being taken there in the form of a shadow person. Now Thorn's killed their ride, and them with it. That's an interesting theory. However I would have to point out that, just a few years after the scenes we're currently seeing, there will be a scene of Anja and Surma talking about the robots in the cellar, and it's clear that they are much older. Since they were built as a tribute to Jeanne, the running conclusion is that Diego, Jeanne, and the original robots are from some time in the relatively distant past.
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Post by Kuraru on May 5, 2009 8:27:40 GMT
That's an interesting theory. However I would have to point out that, just a few years after the scenes we're currently seeing, there will be a scene of Anja and Surma talking about the robots in the cellar, and it's clear that they are much older. Since they were built as a tribute to Jeanne, the running conclusion is that Diego, Jeanne, and the original robots are from some time in the relatively distant past. A few years after this scene we see Anja and Surma talking about the robots, but it'll be something like 20-30 years until Antimony and Kat get down there.
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Post by Casey on May 5, 2009 8:42:52 GMT
I think that I didn't make my point clear. In the current scenes, Anja and Surma are a little older than Kat and Annie are now. That would make them about 14 in this chapter. In the flashback sequence where Anja and Surma are talking about the robots, they are in their late teens, according to Tom. In that scene, she comments on how different the technology is between the robots in the basement and the ones around the court. So if Jeanne only died at most 5 years before that scene... five years isn't enough time for Diego to have made the original robots in a tribute to Jeanne, for them to have evolved into the current robots, and for the original robots to fall motionless in the basement. Therefore, we have to assume that the original robots were built a long time before the current chapter, and therefore Jeanne must have died a long time ago as well.
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Post by Dentrala on May 5, 2009 13:54:57 GMT
Or maybe... Mr. Thorn's first name is Diago? O: He could have just lost a couple pounds, grown a few feet, choppped off his nose and grown a sweet beard. No big deal.
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Post by bisected8 on May 5, 2009 13:59:38 GMT
Or maybe... Mr. Thorn's first name is Diago? O: He could have just lost a couple pounds, grown a few feet, choppped off his nose and grown a sweet beard. No big deal. I wonder when nose chopping came into fashion. Possibly after hair cutting and finger removal. ;D
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on May 5, 2009 21:11:58 GMT
Pfffttt it's quite obvious that Diego is Gamma's mom, so he can't be Mr. Thorn. ;D
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Post by Ulysses on May 5, 2009 22:27:06 GMT
Pffft yourself, everyone knows Jones is Diego. It makes such perfect sense I'm not even going to explain it...
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Post by drbubbles on May 6, 2009 14:00:59 GMT
The glowing sword's a bit flashy, since it was supposed to be a diplomatic meeting it probably wasn't a good idea to be too heavily armed. Not to mention it was the same sword he used to kill the shadow, which is part of what caused the issue in the first place. (Some reasons I thought it strange that Eglamore didn't take the glowing purple sword to the Greeting Hall for Ysengrin's and Coyote's visit.) You might be right, bisected8. I don't imagine Ysengrin, nor perhaps Coyote, would have been pleased if Eglamore had "chff"ed Ysengrin's tree-suit. Although that still doesn't explain why E. bothered taking a sword at all.
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Post by Scheherazade on May 6, 2009 15:41:32 GMT
Although that still doesn't explain why E. bothered taking a sword at all. Well, he doesn't trust either Ysengrin or Coyote. That would be why he took a sword, and somehow managed to conceal it inside a suit.
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Post by drbubbles on May 6, 2009 15:52:11 GMT
Although that still doesn't explain why E. bothered taking a sword at all. Well, he doesn't trust either Ysengrin or Coyote. That would be why he took a sword, and somehow managed to conceal it inside a suit. Here are my thoughts on that.
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Post by Chrome on May 6, 2009 16:05:19 GMT
Couple of things to note: Thorn (I assume that is him) seemed to have noticed the shadow people skittering about after the treedog was reduced to little branches and leaves. He didn't seem to care about them very much, or that lightsword probably would've gone to wipe them out. Then there's this: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=5Note how Annie has ascertained that Shadow 1 has been stuck there for a while? Also note how the bridge seems specifically designed to keep shadow-people from crossing it on their own. It seems more like a means of blocking a nuisance from crossing the distance rather than killing these guys outright, as there are obviously still ways to get them from the Wood to the Court (and back). I might also note that Eggers in the second major Bridge-involving chapter was quite aware of how dangerous animated, moving wood was, given that Robot had a wooden arm at the time. Obviously now we can see why - those things, and probably Ysengrin's powers, have been around for at least a couple of years. No wonder the seeds Ys dropped at the meeting hall were the source of such concern and interest.
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Post by Casey on May 6, 2009 17:54:58 GMT
Living wood does not -necessarily- point to Ysengrin, keep in mind. The impression seems to be that Coyote gave Ysengrin his woody powers relatively recently, though I would have to dig for the thread where that was concluded... anyway it's possible that there is living wood in the forest on its own, or specifically that can be manipulated by the shadow people (in the same way that a shadow man was able to take control of Robot once the seed had been planted in him). So the tree-dog could be literally an inanimate taxi that the shadow-people on board are controlling like a living-wood robot. But here, I'm speculating.
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Post by Chrome on May 7, 2009 3:32:48 GMT
Good point there. Forgot about that, but yeah. I like that speculation, though. Gives the whole living-wood thing more dimension. And it's possible the Court doesn't entirely grasp the various facets of living-wood control and those that can control it. Seeing as Jones says the Court doesn't see the animals as worth listening to most times, that's entirely possible.
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