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Post by madjack on Jul 26, 2023 7:12:02 GMT
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Post by philman on Jul 26, 2023 7:15:50 GMT
Yeah good luck with that Annie...
And now we see why Annie will be forced to use the tooth blade, but on Loup or on Coyote? Or both?
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Post by csj on Jul 26, 2023 7:29:41 GMT
'my emotional surrogate is dead, time to commit unspeakable acts again' |
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Post by arf on Jul 26, 2023 8:18:03 GMT
'Lana made me do it' is no excuse.
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Post by bicarbonat on Jul 26, 2023 9:29:39 GMT
"Try amputating the source of your volatility, that worked pretty well for m –"
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Post by blahzor on Jul 26, 2023 9:58:01 GMT
Annie get the knife ready
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Post by Igniz on Jul 26, 2023 10:18:31 GMT
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Post by laaaa on Jul 26, 2023 12:42:05 GMT
Thia is really sad... this is the most evil thing Coyote has done.
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 26, 2023 13:19:32 GMT
Have you ever been so angry that you blasted off into the sky.
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 26, 2023 14:19:39 GMT
So, as Jerrek/Loup's rage spirals out of control, he begins to change, as Annie exhorts him to keep control. An interesting building in the background separates this first frame, almost splitting it into two, with sky behind Loup and building behind Annie. The building's angle seems to me to add to the sense of imbalance here. Then we focus on Annie, who is clearly worried about what this may lead to.
Jerrek/Loup tries for a moment, his hands on his head, as Annie tells him that this is what Coyote wants him to do, but then he looks toward the sky, his eyes and face changing and a stream of drool dangling from his chin. And in the final frame of this page, he launches himself into the air hard enough to toss up bits of dirt. Annie can only stand there and watch him hurtle into the distance.
When last we see Jerrek/Loup/etc., he's a tiny dot in the sky, so it's unclear whether his transformation progressed beyond the next-to-last frame on this page, but I do note that he still wasn't all the way back to Loup form when we last saw him. I suspect that Loup hasn't entirely abandoned his Jerrek form yet, and his form has become highly symbolic of his mental state. There's still Jerrek in his form, so there's still some part of him that cares about Lana and what Coyote's done to her more than he cares about Coyote's plan. So what's he flying off to do? I doubt he's going off to have tea with him, unless it's, well, casual-tea.
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Post by foxurus on Jul 26, 2023 16:39:14 GMT
Thia is really sad... this is the most evil thing Coyote has done. Coyote psychologically abused Ysengrin for hundreds of years, controlling all aspects of his life and gaslighting him by literally taking away his memories, with the purpose of disintegrating his mental health so much that he'd murder someone he loved. |
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Post by laaaa on Jul 26, 2023 16:53:12 GMT
Thia is really sad... this is the most evil thing Coyote has done. Coyote psychologically abused Ysengrin for hundreds of years, controlling all aspects of his life and gaslighting him by literally taking away his memories, with the purpose of disintegrating his mental health so much that he'd murder someone he loved. And then he deliberately killed the only being Loup really loved and was loved by. I originally thought Coyote was kind of protecting Ysegrin from his own actions, but I now realize he never let Ysegrin grow or change. If Coyote really did kill Lana in the last few pages, he must be truly evil. |
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Post by rabbit on Jul 26, 2023 21:31:59 GMT
Looks like I was wrong about Jerrek being introspective about love, loss, and the ephemeral nature of mortal life. If there's going to be a clash, JerrLoup best be on his guard against a Mike Tyson-style ear-bitey attack; Coyote has done that before. |
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Post by drmemory on Jul 26, 2023 22:08:28 GMT
This may seem a little cold, but I'm wondering how exactly Annie is supposed to use the knife. We know it's sharp enough to cut a shadow from the ground, but both Coyote and Ysengrin are basically beings of the ether... aren't they? So it isn't that clear to me what she should stab or cut exactly.
They do sometimes have a physical presence, but I'm not sure that manifestation is THEM, if you see what I mean.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 26, 2023 23:20:17 GMT
And now that pressing the red button would have actually made sense, of course Annie doesn't do it. So. Loup should now agree any moment that Coyote's plan is a wonderful plan. Any moment now... Yeah good luck with that Annie... And now we see why Annie will be forced to use the tooth blade, but on Loup or on Coyote? Or both? Dumb question, but how is she even supposed to do that? As far as we know, Annie can't fly, and even if she had help, Loup has already demonstrated he's able to casually destroy whole buildings from afar and to manipulate wood and earth like he was a giant playing with clay. How would Annie even be able to get near him? |
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Post by laaaa on Jul 28, 2023 15:15:55 GMT
This may seem a little cold, but I'm wondering how exactly Annie is supposed to use the knife. We know it's sharp enough to cut a shadow from the ground, but both Coyote and Ysengrin are basically beings of the ether... aren't they? So it isn't that clear to me what she should stab or cut exactly. They do sometimes have a physical presence, but I'm not sure that manifestation is THEM, if you see what I mean. I think the implication is: whatever they're made of, the knife can cut it. It is of the same essense as Coyote, after all. ... I'm not sure why Coyote couldn't just bite his own head off, now that I'm thinking about it. Not dramatic enough for his liking, I guess. |
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Post by drmemory on Jul 29, 2023 1:45:01 GMT
And now that pressing the red button would have actually made sense, of course Annie doesn't do it. So. Loup should now agree any moment that Coyote's plan is a wonderful plan. Any moment now... Yeah good luck with that Annie... And now we see why Annie will be forced to use the tooth blade, but on Loup or on Coyote? Or both? Dumb question, but how is she even supposed to do that? As far as we know, Annie can't fly, and even if she had help, Loup has already demonstrated he's able to casually destroy whole buildings from afar and to manipulate wood and earth like he was a giant playing with clay. How would Annie even be able to get near him? In the ether? Or maybe in Zimmyland, whatever THAT really is. We know she can fly in the ether (sort of), and I have to think this battle will take place at least partly there. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 29, 2023 2:12:57 GMT
And now that pressing the red button would have actually made sense, of course Annie doesn't do it. So. Loup should now agree any moment that Coyote's plan is a wonderful plan. Any moment now... Dumb question, but how is she even supposed to do that? As far as we know, Annie can't fly, and even if she had help, Loup has already demonstrated he's able to casually destroy whole buildings from afar and to manipulate wood and earth like he was a giant playing with clay. How would Annie even be able to get near him? In the ether? Or maybe in Zimmyland, whatever THAT really is. We know she can fly in the ether (sort of), and I have to think this battle will take place at least partly there. Loup has also shown that he could easily control Annie in the Ether, but you're right that in Zimmingham possibly everything can happen. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 29, 2023 3:28:55 GMT
In the ether? Or maybe in Zimmyland, whatever THAT really is. We know she can fly in the ether (sort of), and I have to think this battle will take place at least partly there. Loup has also shown that he could easily control Annie in the Ether, but you're right that in Zimmingham possibly everything can happen. Speaking of controlling the ether, Antimony did light the ether to make her bowling ball throws go the way she wanted (more or less). She's got twice the fire now, she could potentially throw The Tooth at "Loup" even if he's high in the air or moving quickly and use the fire to enhance her chance of hitting effectively. Additional thought: What if The Tooth's ability to cut even metaphorical things is only an ancillary effect, and it is really a specific tool for punching Coyote's death-tourism ticket? Jerrek was acting like even its peaceful return (presumably scabbarded and handle-first) is something that he really didn't want; perhaps it contains memories of Coyote's plan, his Great Secret TM thought experiment, insight into Ysengrin's mind and character, or some combination of those things, or something else entirely. |
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Post by drmemory on Jul 29, 2023 4:58:07 GMT
So what happens if Loup beats Coyote... and eats him? Just as Ysengrin did to start with.
I still think Loup is mostly Ysengrin at this point, just as he was at the start. But he still has at least some of Coyote's power, as evidenced by his color scheme and by the fact that Coyote's ghost mentioned having given him power. So he may well try this, but I doubt Coyote would let it happen as easily this time, unless it suits his plan of course.
That probably isn't what's going to happen, but I find I can't rule it out.
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