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Post by philman on May 3, 2023 7:30:06 GMT
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Post by Ophel on May 3, 2023 8:05:46 GMT
Hey now, they're still getting used to the whole being their own person thing.
As the youth says, let them cook.
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Post by blahzor on May 3, 2023 8:14:18 GMT
Eyes close, closed emotions theme again
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Post by blahzor on May 3, 2023 8:14:49 GMT
They aren't but slowly will become unique over time |
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Post by arf on May 3, 2023 8:31:31 GMT
A lot chose the random selection, which produce a cluster about a mean...
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Post by csj on May 3, 2023 9:35:09 GMT
They just don't want to feel like they Did Nothing |
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Post by arf on May 3, 2023 11:39:56 GMT
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Post by ctso74 on May 3, 2023 13:55:48 GMT
TFW, a partner points to a key part of your personality, and says "Nah". Plus, if it's bad enough that they need to move on, then they do need to move on, and should. What are any of us supposed to make of that?
That's rough, Kat.
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 3, 2023 15:59:25 GMT
I like that little bit of "present company excepted" at the end there  |
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Post by Gemminie on May 3, 2023 19:54:35 GMT
After telling us that NP have been coming around trying to console her all day (on the previous page), Kat points out of the frame toward us, Annie following her gaze, and when our view changes in the second panel so we can see what they see, there are a number of NP watching through the window. But as soon as she looks their way, the NP all vanish out of sight, as if they know they're making Kat uncomfortable.
Annie says they're just trying to help, and that they don't want her to be sad. Kat says she just vants to be alone.
There's then a frame of Annie looking downward and saying nothing. Kat may say she just vants to be alone, but Annie is probably thinking about how Kat shouldn't be alone, and how Paz just recently said things would be OK if Kat had Annie there to support her, and how she wants to be there to support her friend ... did Kat just obliquely tell Annie that she should go? Or did she mean everybody except Annie should go away? She should ask, really.
But Kat thanks Annie for being there for her. Whether or not she wants Annie there with her right now, she's grateful that Annie's supportive.
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Post by stclair on May 3, 2023 22:10:08 GMT
What Kat says and even thinks she wants, and what she actually wants, are often at odds.
(Much like most of us.)
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Post by Runningflame on May 3, 2023 23:43:47 GMT
Kat in the bottom row of panels (plus Tom's comment) is super relatable.
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Post by TBeholder on May 4, 2023 0:24:04 GMT
A lot chose the random selection, which produce a cluster about a mean... Depends on how random it is, no? That’s a good catch. (I can imagine that the end page features Paz trying to deal with a room filled with all the blooms that Kat has been sending on.) I imagine a co-pilot walking into passenger cabin. “Hey, kids, it’s not an airbus, what are you doing to our centre of ma…” (sees the passage and most of other space not occupied by the passenger bodies is now stuffed with flowers) “Where did all those…” (another bouquet materializes in mid air) “…An easy job, they said. No crazy stuff, they said. *sigh*” |
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Post by arf on May 4, 2023 0:42:18 GMT
A lot chose the random selection, which produce a cluster about a mean... Depends on how random it is, no? Depends on how many dice are rolled. The higher the number, the smaller the spread. |
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Post by silicondream on May 4, 2023 3:55:22 GMT
Depends on how random it is, no? Depends on how many dice are rolled. The higher the number, the smaller the spread. The smaller the relative spread, e.g. the coefficient of variation. The absolute spread, e.g. the variance or standard deviation, increases with the number of dice. (The increase in variance is directly proportional to the number of dice; the increase in the standard deviation is proportional to its square root.) |
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Post by blahzor on May 4, 2023 5:47:08 GMT
It's going to be revealed that Annie put them up to it not Robot
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Post by TBeholder on May 4, 2023 7:28:57 GMT
Depends on how random it is, no? Depends on how many dice are rolled. The higher the number, the smaller the spread. It’s but one way for thing to be random. And a fairly boring one, at that. Even then, there’s a problem of thinking about being random handling the extreme cases. Which can produce more oddities. For example, we have a nice, wide bell curves for just one variable, but then want to limit it. To keep the results spread (avoid bunching them too much), we set two boundary points on each side (“yellow” and “red”), and compress the outliers back into this band so that the yellow point retains its value and red point is at zero. Sounds nice, but depending on the parameters, we may now have 3 local maximums on this curve. Another way to produce widely varied random results from a lot of pre-existing samples (each with many variables) would be to remix the known values. A simple way is to pick outright. To make it more complex, analyse and remix: find the local maximums. Randomly pick one, then roll a smooth distribution from it. Either way, there are choices to make, like “how much of the observed co-variance between the variables you want to preserve?”. Even for plain remixing, this may range from “copy each variable from a randomly picked sample” to “randomly pick one sample, copy it all”. And so on. This rabbit hole is spacious and branching. |
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Post by aline on May 4, 2023 7:40:47 GMT
I like that little bit of "present company excepted" at the end there Yep. That very relatable moment when you don't want to be around people, you just want to be around your bestie. |
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Post by drmemory on May 5, 2023 4:31:39 GMT
The only robot we know of that has researched (read about) human behavior and thus might have a different idea of how to comfort Kat is busy with her own boyfriend. But will show up soon!
I'm guessing the rest are either working on a very basic working set of information Kat or Robot gave them or are totally guessing. I think the former is a little more likely than the latter just because a lot seem to have come up with "give flowers" rather than just "say sympathetic words". But even knowing to do that is interesting - what would a pipe maintenance robot know about comforting a human that just lost her first relationship partner? So my cookies are on "basic information provided with new body".
This could also just all go back to Lana in a different way. Someone had to have explained the difference between "close friend" and "romantic relationship" to the robots/NP at some point, and the only candidates I can see are S13 and Lana.
In short, I don't think this is random or lack of uniqueness - I just think they all got their info on this topic from the same source and haven't yet developed their own relationships. Lana will probably be the first NP to experience a breakup or other romantic disaster for herself...
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Post by pyradonis on May 5, 2023 15:30:06 GMT
This could also just all go back to Lana in a different way. Someone had to have explained the difference between "close friend" and "romantic relationship" to the robots/NP at some point, and the only candidates I can see are S13 and Lana. What about Arthur? He has been both a close friend and later a stable romantic partner for a human for years and seems very mature in general when compared to the other robots/NPs. All the time spent with Juliette plus his old job with the Shadow Men (which included lots of observing human and nonhuman inhabitants of the Court) should make him the best candidate to teach NPs about these things. Assuming he is interested in teaching anyone of course. |
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Post by mturtle7 on May 5, 2023 18:17:25 GMT
The only robot we know of that has researched (read about) human behavior and thus might have a different idea of how to comfort Kat is busy with her own boyfriend. But will show up soon! I'm guessing the rest are either working on a very basic working set of information Kat or Robot gave them or are totally guessing. I think the former is a little more likely than the latter just because a lot seem to have come up with "give flowers" rather than just "say sympathetic words". But even knowing to do that is interesting - what would a pipe maintenance robot know about comforting a human that just lost her first relationship partner? So my cookies are on "basic information provided with new body". This could also just all go back to Lana in a different way. Someone had to have explained the difference between "close friend" and "romantic relationship" to the robots/NP at some point, and the only candidates I can see are S13 and Lana. In short, I don't think this is random or lack of uniqueness - I just think they all got their info on this topic from the same source and haven't yet developed their own relationships. Lana will probably be the first NP to experience a breakup or other romantic disaster for herself... Personally, I'd like to think that being a pipe maintenance robot doesn't actually exclude one from being able to, say, watch romantic comedies via an Internet streaming service, and thus learn all SORTS of (horribly inaccurate) things about human romance. Lana thinks she's uniquely knowledgeable, but she's actually only unique for being a huge bookworm.
Also (or alternatively), it doesn't actually take much to get even humans to jump on a bandwagon once they see it, so the explanation for why all the robots are doing the same thing for Kat doesn't really have to be any more complicated than "one robot gave her flowers and she seemed to appreciate it, so now literally everyone is doing it in order to prove their devotion to the Angel."
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Post by drmemory on May 5, 2023 20:59:23 GMT
This could also just all go back to Lana in a different way. Someone had to have explained the difference between "close friend" and "romantic relationship" to the robots/NP at some point, and the only candidates I can see are S13 and Lana. What about Arthur? He has been both a close friend and later a stable romantic partner for a human for years and seems very mature in general when compared to the other robots/NPs. All the time spent with Juliette plus his old job with the Shadow Men (which included lots of observing human and nonhuman inhabitants of the Court) should make him the best candidate to teach NPs about these things. Assuming he is interested in teaching anyone of course. That's fair. I totally forgot about Arthur. He belongs on the short list for sure. |
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Post by blahzor on May 5, 2023 23:29:20 GMT
also Aurther is technically the 1st of among them. He should be first on the list
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Post by Isildur on Jul 11, 2023 21:29:22 GMT
Noticing this thread's title quote, I was belatedly reminded of Greta Garbo. As noted by an article at the Smithsonian Magazine website: (Missing quotation mark added back in.)(Although it's now 29 comic pages back, the thread caught my eye partly because it's currently pushed to the very bottom of "Discussion" index page #1.) |
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