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Post by inhumandecency on Oct 14, 2008 19:36:44 GMT
I say this because I don't believe some of the postuations being made in this thread really have any basis - that is, the idea that there is some sort of nefarious shadow realm, or some insideous plot being hatched by the nobodies. The evidence just points to it all being inside Zimmy's head. I wouldn't call anything nefarious. I think the shadow world is just by its nature kind of creepy. It's corrupt in a Philip K. Dick kind of perpetual-decay way. Nor do I think the shadows are up to anything sinister. They just seemed sort of oblivious. And everything points to the copyKat really acting like Kat -- there are a dozen ways she could have she could have knocked the group off course or tried to make Annie distrust Zimmy. Instead Kat asked Annie to help get them out of there, and quietly followed Zimmy straight to Gamma. For me the big missing piece is why Zimmy is distressed by all this stuff. What do the nobodies -- or the giant insects and other monsters -- do to her? What would have happened if she hadn't had Annie there to gop the nobodies away? What happened to her before Gamma wandered up that first time? Was she perpetually catatonic? Or did Gamma show up shortly after all this stuff started happening to her? And wouldn't that be suspiciously coincidental...
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Oct 14, 2008 20:22:37 GMT
What if... Annie never quite recovers from this experience. Once back in reality she embraces the real Kat, but something is different. Something has crept in. Her determination to never lose Kat or anyone else she cares about becomes that much more determined, uncompromising and joyless. No matter how much care she takes, she can never be entirely sure about anything. Over time, the anxiety of losing costs her the innocence of having. It's an Anakin twist done subtly and well, as opposed to some other Anakin twists seen on film. Annnnggst etc. Guh. Now add to this the Matrix comparison; i.e. Annie comes back to the real world and Kat is catatonic or dead or whatever, and Annie now has an easily identifiable reason for that determination to crystalize into something a little more, ah, darkside... Annie's loss of innocence. *shudder* Great, I'm creeping myself out, now.
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Post by todd on Oct 14, 2008 22:32:08 GMT
I think that Annie might have already lost some of her innocence in the hospital - particularly when she learned the reason for the Guides' visits.
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Post by sniperct on Oct 14, 2008 23:46:48 GMT
Longtime reader and lurker ;D I registered just to make a couple of comments.
Firstly, when Zimmy said 'other friends' how do we know that she wasn't referring to Kat as another friend who was stuck there, as opposed to herself and Gamma being the other friends?
Though I personally think Zimmy was referring to herself, it would be an interesting - and very frightening - possibility, that she was the 'real' Kat who just got gopped, in some manner or another. From a writer's standpoint, it would be a deliciously evil, emotionally wrenching plot-twist.
I like deliciously evil, emotionally wrenching plot-twists ;D
Secondly, Kat's going poof was a lot more forceful, violent and bright/white than any other we've seen. It actually knocked people over. That has to mean something. I don't know what, but it's not like that on accident.
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Post by etcetera on Oct 14, 2008 23:54:04 GMT
I think that Annie might have already lost some of her innocence in the hospital - particularly when she learned the reason for the Guides' visits. Or when one of the Guides visited right after her mother died, taking her away. I really hope Annie didn't have to witness that. Just knowing that it happened gives me creeps, let alone crush any innocence in a little girl. I don't think the real Kat is affected by the goping of her doppelgänger. Firstly Gamma wouldn't do anything to hurt a friend in real life, and secondly it would not be like Tom to fling one of the major characters into a coma or the afterlife just for the sake of a good solid scare.
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Post by Goatmon on Oct 15, 2008 2:00:02 GMT
That face looks really... terrible. I mean, that just one weird, bizarre, not-Annie expression period. I'm disappointed. That face just looks totally wrong in this context. But then, I am neither the artist, nor author, so what do I know. I don't know. Antimony is a very stoic girl, hence she isn't overly expressive, but much of that comes from her foresight and perceptive nature over likelyhoods. Her attachment to Kat is the only part of her that really isn't terribly predictable to her, essentially the only chink in Annie's armor. Seeing what she thought was a friend get blown up in front of her is going to be pretty shocking. Not to mention that, over the course of the series, Annie has slowly become more expressive and less introverted.
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Post by King Mir on Oct 15, 2008 2:01:26 GMT
People seam alarmed by Annie's reactions in this page, but under the circumstances they are fitting. In Panel 2, she is analyzing the possibility that Kat isn't real. By panel 4 she realizes that there is a distinct possibility, but she still wants Kat to be around; remember she hasn't though things through yet. In Panel six she is mad at Gamma's haste and that she made her friend disappear. The anger is misplaced, as rash anger often is; the scene is moving too fast for her feelings to keep up.
A theory: the nobodies aren't naturally faceless, that's just the way Zimmy sees people. Zimmy is afraid of people in general, and these apparitions are her worst imagining of them. They aren't anything but the realization of Zimmy's fears, and a part of the large mirror that is this world.
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Post by mudmaniac on Oct 15, 2008 6:00:05 GMT
I just saw Zimmy's look again in the first panel. Doesn't it just say "Sorry Annie, but your best friend in the whole wide world may be imaginary"?
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Post by inhumandecency on Oct 15, 2008 6:26:03 GMT
People seam alarmed by Annie's reactions in this page, but under the circumstances they are fitting. I agree, but I think it's also fitting for people to be alarmed when someone around them is making an "I'm about to flip out" face. I still think Annie doesn't look angry; she looks like she's scarcely controlling a mix of terror, grief, and rage. At least, I associate heavy sweating and lip biting more with fear than with anger. But I suppose time will tell. Time, and hitting refresh over and over. I'll try to stop that.
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