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Post by madjack on Jan 24, 2020 8:19:16 GMT
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Post by shaihulud on Jan 24, 2020 8:20:34 GMT
It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma.
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Post by madjack on Jan 24, 2020 8:22:00 GMT
It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma. Please don't say scary things. |
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Post by novia on Jan 24, 2020 8:22:42 GMT
It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma. Noooooooooooooooooooo don't even play |
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Post by Fishy on Jan 24, 2020 8:24:04 GMT
Sometimes I think Zimmy’s powers manifested when her parents told her to stop making that face or it’d get a stuck like that and she didn’t listen. Amazing how she can come across as so incredibly sweet and yet still have that cocky grin.
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Post by wies on Jan 24, 2020 8:27:34 GMT
I think this is the most contented Zimmy has been, aside from after rains. Apparently what the Court has been doing weighed heavily on her mind, and that has stopped now.
For now, at least; the Court will likely use the results of those experiments on a larger scale later (Omega device?) that might threaten the state of her mind.
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Post by antiyonder on Jan 24, 2020 8:42:45 GMT
Maybe succeeding M Bison as the one(s) taking over the world? It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma. Please don't say scary things. Not to mention it's another same sex couple currently absent from the strip. Oh and they're interesting characters I guess:-). |
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Post by noone3 on Jan 24, 2020 9:07:19 GMT
It can only mean one thing. The zimmy-ray cannon is finally ready. Some whiny kid will be mounting a giant robot next week, to use it.  |
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Post by migrantworker on Jan 24, 2020 9:08:38 GMT
It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma. Heh, my first thought was the exact opposite: with Zimmy and Gamma no longer held back by whatever experiments were performed on them, they are now in a position to get more air time. Well, we'll see. |
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Post by Elysium on Jan 24, 2020 11:15:34 GMT
It can only mean one thing. The zimmy-ray cannon is finally ready. Some whiny kid will be mounting a giant robot next week, to use it. That's a job for Vegeta, he has the right hai- I mean qualifications. |
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Post by philman on Jan 24, 2020 11:57:16 GMT
It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma. I'm sure I remember Tom saying somewhere that he developed the Zimmy and Gamma characters long before he started Gunnerkrigg Court, and has always wanted to do something more with them, either within the comic or elsewhere. So I doubt this is the last we see of them! Although I can't remember where he said this or what his exact words or intentions were. It might have been in one of the video retrospectives. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 24, 2020 12:26:34 GMT
Surely they just dismantled the power station to get rid of evidence in case certain Forest denizens storm the place. Anyway, I would not be so sure they are "done" with you and Gamma, if I were you, Zimmy. It occurs to me, that like with Red and her friend, this may be the last chapter that will feature Zimmy and Gamma. I'm sure I remember Tom saying somewhere that he developed the Zimmy and Gamma characters long before he started Gunnerkrigg Court, and has always wanted to do something more with them, either within the comic or elsewhere. So I doubt this is the last we see of them! Although I can't remember where he said this or what his exact words or intentions were. It might have been in one of the video retrospectives. He said it on the forum when somebody asked about his DA drawing featuring the two of them, which was two years older than GKC. |
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Post by saardvark on Jan 24, 2020 12:36:16 GMT
The power station was an ether collector - transmitter... has the Court collected all the ether it needs for some major nefarious purpose (power up the Omega, maybe)?
Alternately, maybe they are dismantling it and giving up on ether experiments entirely, as too dangerous and annoying to Loup. Naaaaah! No way....
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Post by todd on Jan 24, 2020 12:41:56 GMT
This page does make me wonder if we're entering the final stage of the comic. I'll miss "Gunnerkrigg Court" - though there may be other good webcomics to follow it.
The really big question is: is whatever the Court's getting ready for the "big event" it was founded for (presumably understanding how the etheric world works, in a way to interpret it as science rather than magic), or is it something else forced upon it by Loup's threat (like an anti-etheric being weapon)?
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Post by alevice on Jan 24, 2020 14:32:22 GMT
This page does make me wonder if we're entering the final stage of the comic. I'll miss "Gunnerkrigg Court" - though there may be other good webcomics to follow it. The really big question is: is whatever the Court's getting ready for the "big event" it was founded for (presumably understanding how the etheric world works, in a way to interpret it as science rather than magic), or is it something else forced upon it by Loup's threat (like an anti-etheric being weapon)? I also feel we are reaching end game. A fair number of the older misteries and arcs have been solved, we have had some chabges that have everlasting narrative impact that i doubt will be rolled back without consequences, and it seems all the major playees are setting up the stage for a big showdown or event |
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Post by wies on Jan 24, 2020 14:41:03 GMT
I still feel the end is a long way off. Yeah, the story has delved quite deep into the Court and the Forest since the beginning, but there are still many, many mysteries awaiting.
Personally, I think the biggest sign for when the comic is nearing the end is when we know a clear (so non-coyote then) answer to the question that has been with us from nearly the first page: just what is Gunner's Cragg/Gunnerkrigg Court?
Both looking forward to and dreading the day when we learn that.
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Post by darlos9d on Jan 24, 2020 14:47:36 GMT
Okay that'd actually be pretty funny. "Yeah we're just leaving, this place sucks." |
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Post by rafk on Jan 24, 2020 15:19:01 GMT
Both Schlock Mercenary and Order of the Stick are openly in last chapter mode but for Schlock that means done by October and for OOTS that means done in 5 years. Tom is somewhere between the two in pacing, so even if we are in the home stretch there's time left yet.
Fwiw I think there is still a way to go - if this is the last quarter of the story it has rather crept up on us.
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Post by caber on Jan 24, 2020 15:29:52 GMT
I still feel the end is a long way off. Yeah, the story has delved quite deep into the Court and the Forest since the beginning, but there are still many, many mysteries awaiting. Personally, I think the biggest sign for when the comic is nearing the end is when we know a clear (so non-coyote then) answer to the question that has been with us from nearly the first page: just what is Gunner's Cragg/Gunnerkrigg Court? Both looking forward to and dreading the day when we learn that. And the other big question: what the hell is Kat?? |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jan 24, 2020 16:36:34 GMT
It does feel like the comic is reaching some sort of a conclusion, or at least a dramatic moment™. After all, it all started with Annie still in her schoolgirl uniform. Annie, and all of the characters, have grown and advanced. Of course, Gunnerkrigg Court moves at a snail's pace, so that conclusion could be months from now. But I can easily imagine: * Final battle between the Court and the Forest. * Court and Forest joining forces to battle Loup. (With an elf 442nd leading the charge?) Loup has probably angered some forest folk with his random chaos. * Annie graduating. (The Annie gang seems to operate independently, so it might be largely symbolic. But theoretically, if Gunnerkrigg is actually a "school," it should happen sooner or later.) * The end of the Court as we know it. (Re-unification with the Forest, shutting down?) * The return of the One True Annie. |
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Post by Polyhymnia on Jan 24, 2020 16:51:15 GMT
I still feel the end is a long way off. Yeah, the story has delved quite deep into the Court and the Forest since the beginning, but there are still many, many mysteries awaiting. Personally, I think the biggest sign for when the comic is nearing the end is when we know a clear (so non-coyote then) answer to the question that has been with us from nearly the first page: just what is Gunner's Cragg/Gunnerkrigg Court? Both looking forward to and dreading the day when we learn that. And the other big question: what the hell is Kat?? So it looks like we have a few threads to tie up, some big and some small. 1. What is the court, and what is it up to? See Druplesnub’s great wildspec post for links Link2.) What are the Tic Tocs? 3. What is Kat? 4. What happened to this timeline’s Annie? 5. Why is the forest frozen? + resolution of the Loup/Ysengrin/Coyote plotline (what is the lake water and goose bone) 6. Will Annie work for the psychopomps, or find a way out of it? When and how will that happen? What will it look like? I think those are the biggest questions that I think will be answered or at least addressed (if not explained—I think that likeliest with the Kat Mecha Angel plot). The first three are long running plot mysteries. Of them, I think only answering the first one would signal the end of the comic. The last three are the result at least indirectly from the resolution of one core, long running mystery: Jeanne’s fate. Thematically, I think Mecha Angel Kat and Psychopomp Annie are closely related, and bring in ideas of life, death, and immortality. They were also all referenced in the freeing of Jeanne. If anything can be done with Loup’s situation, I think it will be related to those things. Whatever the Court’s doing will likely parallel Loup’s act in extremity. |
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Post by fia on Jan 24, 2020 17:05:38 GMT
I still feel the end is a long way off. Yeah, the story has delved quite deep into the Court and the Forest since the beginning, but there are still many, many mysteries awaiting. Personally, I think the biggest sign for when the comic is nearing the end is when we know a clear (so non-coyote then) answer to the question that has been with us from nearly the first page: just what is Gunner's Cragg/Gunnerkrigg Court? Both looking forward to and dreading the day when we learn that. And the other big question: what the hell is Kat?? I have a wry suspicion it could answer both at the same time. Maybe the end will be, " God is dead.... (background) long live Kat". Much like for Neil Gaiman, for Tom, deities are kind of everywhere. If the Court's goal is to kill Coyote/Loup, for example, it won't succeed with doing away with gods. (Big IF there though). Not sure that's the theme we're going for. But there is a lot of death in the comic, and Antimony's whole life has been about taking people from life into death (and also a bit about communicating the mortal with the divine). |
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Post by strangebloke1 on Jan 24, 2020 18:56:27 GMT
I think this is the most contented Zimmy has been, aside from after rains. Apparently what the Court has been doing weighed heavily on her mind, and that has stopped now. For now, at least; the Court will likely use the results of those experiments on a larger scale later (Omega device?) that might threaten the state of her mind. My guess is that its something more direct, that the power station(s) were draining the ether and making zimmy's condition worse in a more direct fashion. Additionally, here she's getting tuned by both Gamma and two Annies, so it logically follows that she'd be less stressed. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Jan 24, 2020 23:27:36 GMT
You know, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think that Zimmy's cheerfulness here isn't because of some external or circumstantial thing - she's honestly just grown into a nicer person.
Like, when we first met her, she was super tortured and angsty from both her curse and her semi-ambiguous relationship with Gamma, and that sort of manifested as constant misanthropy and suspicion against everyone and everything (except Gamma). In Spring Heeled, she was still kind of like that, but she also started to accept that maybe her actions do have consequences for other people, which she should apologize for. Much later, in Divine, we saw her suddenly being a lot more comfortable with using her powers to help other people, and her relationship with Gamma was a lot easier. In her last appearance, in Torn Sea, she...well ok, she wasn't exactly nice to everyone, but she was also dealing with a huge crowd of people while also being seasick, and at least she was more willing to accept help than before. And of course, she had a much nicer relationship with Gamma.
Basically, I'm really getting the sense that Zimmy is just way more comfortable with herself now than she was at the beginning of the comic, and that combined with the whole "not getting hassled by the Court anymore" thing has just made her a happy gal. It's really heartening!
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 25, 2020 0:43:12 GMT
I still feel the end is a long way off. Yeah, the story has delved quite deep into the Court and the Forest since the beginning, but there are still many, many mysteries awaiting. Personally, I think the biggest sign for when the comic is nearing the end is when we know a clear (so non-coyote then) answer to the question that has been with us from nearly the first page: just what is Gunner's Cragg/Gunnerkrigg Court? Both looking forward to and dreading the day when we learn that. I agree 100% with your assessment. The story cannot enter the endgame before this question has been answered.
Regarding other plotlines and mysteries...
So it looks like we have a few threads to tie up, some big and some small. 1. What is the court, and what is it up to? See Druplesnub’s great wildspec post for links Link2. What are the Tic Tocs? 3. What is Kat? 4. What happened to this timeline’s Annie? 5. Why is the forest frozen? + resolution of the Loup/Ysengrin/Coyote plotline (what is the lake water and goose bone) 6. Will Annie work for the psychopomps, or find a way out of it? When and how will that happen? What will it look like? From the top of my head, I thought of those others (I admit not all of them are of the same magnitude):
8. Resolution to the Robo Religion and Kat's goal to provide them with organic bodies. Also, what's up with that extra blue part on the Seraph's CPUs?
9. Will Annie have a child or will the fire die with her one day? (Coyote: "Just as it will happen to you when you have a child.")
10. Will Annie C. and Annie F. become one person again eventually?
11. Will Tony overcome his anxiety, at least with his daughter(s)? Will he finally be able to properly talk, apologize and make amends to Annie? 12. What is the Omega Device? 13. What is the "program" the Court wanted to banish Annie from?
14. Where is this "far, far away" the Court means to take Annie according to Ysengrin? (the last three are probably all related to No. 1) 15. What exactly is the Seed Bismuth? 16. Will William and Janet openly admit their relationship one day? Or will they even marry and have children in secret? 17. Will Renard one day inhabit his old body again? 18. Why did the Court recruit Zimmy (and the rest of the Chester students)? What happens with them when they are too old to be students (not saying "graduate" on purpose because likely many of them never graduate)?
19. Why and how are Hollow Fairies initially created? (Coyote: "The Court wants what it wants.") 20. What is Jones? 21. Who is Annie's crush? 22. Why did Surma never tell Annie about her condition? Was anyone of the adults ever planning on doing that? If not, why? 23. What's up with Tony's parents? 24. Will Coyote's tooth ever return, or did it serve its purpose in the story by cutting Shadow 2 from the floor? 25. Why are there no rats in the Court (but plenty of spiders)? 26. Of what kind is all the data the Foley people work on? ("There's always a bunch of data to mess with.") 27. Who installed the shield protocol on the Court robots? 28. Why did Surma not want Annie to be born in the Court, but wanted her to be educated there later? Did she fear the Court would do something to the newborn child? 29. By the way, why did Surma never tell Annie that she knew Coyote, only stories about him?
And my personal pet peeves:
30. Will we ever get to know what the Court thought about the Torn Sea incident? Or what Renard thought about the plan to free Jeanne? Or why he was not present? 31. Will any of the disturbing or downright abusive relationships between certain characters be resolved or at least improved?
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Post by somebunny on Jan 25, 2020 1:25:30 GMT
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Post by Runningflame on Jan 25, 2020 3:01:01 GMT
You know, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think that Zimmy's cheerfulness here isn't because of some external or circumstantial thing - she's honestly just grown into a nicer person. Hey now, don't be saying things like that-- Zimmy has a reputation to maintain! |
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Post by Runningflame on Jan 25, 2020 3:03:35 GMT
In re: the power station, my thought was that the Court is just taking it apart to reassemble it somewhere else. Moving it, you might say.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jan 25, 2020 4:52:54 GMT
Wait, what does she mean they're done? Done as in: you're free to chill here as guests, or Done as in: aight, here's some cab fare, gtfo?
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Post by shaihulud on Jan 25, 2020 6:35:31 GMT
Wait, what does she mean they're done? Done as in: you're free to chill here as guests, or Done as in: aight, here's some cab fare, gtfo? Or maybe she means Done as in "we won't even be sending you food anymore, since we don't care if you starve or not." |
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