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Post by stevecharb on Nov 19, 2019 17:20:40 GMT
I love the coyote panels so much. Tom, I am consistently blown away by the beautiful aesthetics of your comic.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Nov 19, 2019 18:04:18 GMT
I think Coyote's desire to die was less like a human's, even a long-lived and decrepit human's, and more like a human desire for adventure tourism. He wanted to go somewhere he'd never been and try to exceed his limitations. Death was his Mt. Everest; Ys and Ren were his sherpas, carrying things for him that he couldn't make his journey with. Coyote's mini-me is apparently his way of taking a selfie on the summit. Antimonies' role has yet to be fully revealed; she was instrumental in securing sherpa #2 (Ys) and if nothing else will bear witness to his mighty deed/cunning plan and likely spread word of same. Also: Some people engage in adventure tourism to feel like they're really alive. If he can die then that proves that he really existed, yes? Of course, tourists return from vacation. Logically, for Coyote to return, Loup would have to "die," since Coyote is part of Loup.
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Post by gpvos on Nov 19, 2019 22:33:22 GMT
Coyote's desire to die is mirrored in the fact that he demands that the hollow phayrighies seek death.
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Post by crater on Nov 20, 2019 0:28:31 GMT
kinda getting the feeling from this page coyotes done this sort of thing before.... probably many times
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 20, 2019 0:38:50 GMT
kinda getting the feeling from this page coyotes done this sort of thing before.... probably many times If he really does delete his own memories so that he can experience things again he probably has arranged his own real death before... I don't see any reason for him to stop, either.
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 20, 2019 3:28:31 GMT
I imagine Loup is not very fond of dying. Maybe now he decides to just not find out what Coyote's plan was, so he will not die. The power to control the forest is not hidden outside anyway, as he now knows. Here "then" does not even necessarily mean "because of this". That's Coyote. But yes, the most likely possibility is the instruction on how to undo this mess using the giggleknife. The previous Treatise suggested that there might be some kind of apocalyptic struggle, such as the earth burning and then being flooded before being repopulated – and Annie and Kat have always stood for fire and water. It also had a skeletal finger BONELAZORZ. ;] Speaking of which, my guess is that the tooth will have to be used as a spatula again. And amount of troubles possible if whoever conducts the separation messes up is painfully clear, now that Loup demonstrated what this kind of power can do in the wrong hands. So there will be exactly one surgeon on the list.
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Post by jda on Nov 20, 2019 4:26:29 GMT
I imagine Loup is not very fond of dying. Maybe now he decides to just not find out what Coyote's plan was, so he will not die. The power to control the forest is not hidden outside anyway, as he now knows. Here "then" does not even necessarily mean "because of this". That's Coyote. But yes, the most likely possibility is the instruction on how to undo this mess using the giggleknife. The previous Treatise suggested that there might be some kind of apocalyptic struggle, such as the earth burning and then being flooded before being repopulated – and Annie and Kat have always stood for fire and water. It also had a skeletal finger BONELAZORZ. ;] Speaking of which, my guess is that the tooth will have to be used as a spatula again. And amount of troubles possible if whoever conducts the separation messes up is painfully clear, now that Loup demonstrated what this kind of power can do in the wrong hands. So there will be exactly one surgeon on the list. Exactly! and even more now that he recovered his hand.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 20, 2019 8:56:14 GMT
In Spanish, there is a saying that goes "Curiosity killed the cat" (and I don't mean the Martian Rover). Well, in this case, the most obvious Chehkovite is now how long is going to take for Loupy Loops to agree to know the plan, even having for certain that´d mean its own erasure.
I think Coyote's desire to die was less like a human's, even a long-lived and decrepit human's, and more like a human desire for adventure tourism. He wanted to go somewhere he'd never been and try to exceed his limitations. Death was his Mt. Everest; Ys and Ren were his sherpas, carrying things for him that he couldn't make his journey with. Coyote's mini-me is apparently his way of taking a selfie on the summit. Antimonies' role has yet to be fully revealed; she was instrumental in securing sherpa #2 (Ys) and if nothing else will bear witness to his mighty deed/cunning plan and likely spread word of same. Also: Some people engage in adventure tourism to feel like they're really alive. If he can die then that proves that he really existed, yes? Actually, I am not really sure about that. In what way did Annie's presence contribute to securing Ysengrin for the plan? Would Ysengrin not have killed Coyote to show it to the humans, had he not gotten to know Annie?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 20, 2019 13:53:47 GMT
In what way did Annie's presence contribute to securing Ysengrin for the plan? Would Ysengrin not have killed Coyote to show it to the humans, had he not gotten to know Annie? She gave his acrimony a trim. A berserker makes for a poor sherpa.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 20, 2019 21:14:28 GMT
In what way did Annie's presence contribute to securing Ysengrin for the plan? Would Ysengrin not have killed Coyote to show it to the humans, had he not gotten to know Annie? She gave his acrimony a trim. A berserker makes for a poor sherpa. To me, he seemed pretty berserk after Coyote gifted him his strength. Or do you mean something different?
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Post by Runningflame on Nov 20, 2019 21:29:48 GMT
In what way did Annie's presence contribute to securing Ysengrin for the plan? Would Ysengrin not have killed Coyote to show it to the humans, had he not gotten to know Annie? She gave his acrimony a trim.I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 20, 2019 22:59:53 GMT
To me, he seemed pretty berserk after Coyote gifted him his strength. Or do you mean something different? I think pre-Antimony Ysengrin would have been way worse. Coyote comes right out and says it in Ch. 66. It took many years to temper Ys' rage. Antimony was instrumental in that, though presumably Surma might have been substituted if things had worked out differently with Renard. The reason why Ys' rage needed tempering is open for debate but I figure the main reason was that an out-of-control Ys wouldn't be able to bear Coyote's power very long at all. "Loup" is also thinking about what he needs to do to sustain the Wood, and he has future plans for Antimony (of a sort). He has a reason beside himself (or love of Coyote) to keep living. Killing off the entire audience would also be a bad thing.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 21, 2019 9:45:05 GMT
Killing off the entire audience would also be a bad thing. If you mean the audience reading the comic, I agree.
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Post by merry76 on Nov 21, 2019 12:36:35 GMT
An excerpt from a fanfic in a different universe: Ooh, I like that. I will now search for this, I hope its as good as this excerpt
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Post by warrl on Nov 21, 2019 22:58:07 GMT
I think it is. But, fair warning, it's a long-novel-length collaboration. (I had a couple of very minor contributions.) And one of a fairly substantial collection of stories in that universe. (I have a few complete pieces and bits of a couple other collaborations.) That storyA not-up-to-date index of stories (42 stories as of March 2016) (Nodaki does end up immortal... and a couple other words that start with "im", plus one that starts with "em, but he's less happy about those.)
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