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Post by bedinsis on Nov 6, 2019 8:12:04 GMT
Enter the memory inside the goose boneFor some reason I am reminded of how in Disney's Mulan the dragon Mushu was originally intended to be two-headed, a detail that was scrapped because it turned out two de-facto Mushus was too much Mushu for the story.
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Post by merry76 on Nov 6, 2019 8:13:29 GMT
Didnt Coyote also state that he never was _really_ alive? Or was that the Psychopomps?
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Post by Igniz on Nov 6, 2019 8:21:32 GMT
"- No, I am very much dead!" Well, if dead fighters can participate in martial arts tournaments and protect Earth, why not?  |
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Post by madjack on Nov 6, 2019 8:22:46 GMT
Loup just got his inferiority complex validated.
Yeah, I'm going to need more popcorn.
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Post by arf on Nov 6, 2019 8:42:56 GMT
If it turns out the key to all this is the gift Coyote *insisted* on bequeathing to Rey...
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Post by coastal on Nov 6, 2019 9:07:08 GMT
Didnt Coyote also state that he never was _really_ alive? Or was that the Psychopomps? No, he stated that he does not exist. This is a good existential question, actually. If Coyote never existed, how can he be dead? |
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Post by bedinsis on Nov 6, 2019 9:30:52 GMT
Didnt Coyote also state that he never was _really_ alive? Or was that the Psychopomps? No, he stated that he does not exist. This is a good existential question, actually. If Coyote never existed, how can he be dead? The subject of being alive and dead has been discussed before in this comic. Although from the science that the Gunner-verse uses point of view I'd argue that Coyote is in fact not dead. His existence is brought about through the collective belief of mankind, i.e. he is in essence an idea. Ideas cannot be killed so easily. |
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Post by Eily on Nov 6, 2019 9:39:24 GMT
So there was indeed a memory in the bone. Wonder what it's of.
So, Coyote doesn't react to there being two Annies, and doesn't show any surprise when seeing that he basically took Ysengrin with him...
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Post by aquamafia on Nov 6, 2019 9:56:57 GMT
Anyone else think Coyote's powers are going to end up going to Renard instead?
I bet Coyote's tooth can split the powers from Ysengrin. Or Rey can possess Loup.
Giving the goose water to Loup feels like the worst option here given how cuckoo Loup is. If Rey drinks it, maybe he can figure out how to fix the forest.
I'm just throwing theories around.
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Post by csj on Nov 6, 2019 10:08:05 GMT
Just resting
and pining for the forest
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Post by King Mir on Nov 6, 2019 10:25:18 GMT
Trust a trickster god to find a way to cheat at death.
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Post by migrantworker on Nov 6, 2019 10:35:19 GMT
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Post by machiavelli33 on Nov 6, 2019 12:44:59 GMT
What is this, Coyote? A lesson in humility for Ysengrin? To not pine for what he could not possibly control? A lesson, too, to humanity, to respect the forest? A *simultaneous* lesson to both Ysengrin and Coyote?
What else could be in the works, Coyote?
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Post by jda on Nov 6, 2019 13:13:56 GMT
What a snake has Coyote became on last ...
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Post by hp on Nov 6, 2019 13:38:47 GMT
When you're such a trickster that you trick yourself
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 6, 2019 14:22:38 GMT
If Coyote is manipulating the situation posthumously, this "message" could be meant to agitate Loup's inferiority complex, and ensure he takes a certain path with gusto.
Then again, this could just be Coyote having a lark.
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Post by DonDueed on Nov 6, 2019 15:06:27 GMT
Just resting and pining for the forest For the fjorest, I think you meant :-) |
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Post by DonDueed on Nov 6, 2019 15:10:51 GMT
"Being dead shouldn't stop you from living your life!"
I need this on a T-shirt. Besides the funny, it's kind of profound, especially if you take the phrase "being dead" to mean something closer to "knowing you'll eventually be dead".
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Post by Gemini Jim on Nov 6, 2019 17:44:03 GMT
Didnt Coyote also state that he never was _really_ alive? Or was that the Psychopomps? No, he stated that he does not exist. This is a good existential question, actually. If Coyote never existed, how can he be dead? As far as we know, "In Real Life" Annie doesn't exist. So Coyote is a story within a story, who just might be aware of the Fourth Wall surrounding Gunnerkrigg. Humans have invented stories where supernatural creatures die, or go down to the underworld, or even die and come back to life. If Coyote wants to be a dead god (who can still interact with the world because... Coyote), who's to stop him? |
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 6, 2019 18:25:43 GMT
No, he stated that he does not exist. This is a good existential question, actually. If Coyote never existed, how can he be dead? The subject of being alive and dead has been discussed before in this comic. Although from the science that the Gunner-verse uses point of view I'd argue that Coyote is in fact not dead. His existence is brought about through the collective belief of mankind, i.e. he is in essence an idea. Ideas cannot be killed so easily. I am also of the opinion that as long as humans believing in the existence of Coyote are going into the Ether, he would eventually reform. (Let us not forget that Ysengrin, for example, dies in many of the stories humans tell of him and Renard, only to be back in the next.)
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Post by fia on Nov 6, 2019 18:28:40 GMT
As a professional metaphysician....... I am very confused.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 6, 2019 18:29:44 GMT
By the way, the way Loup grins when Coyote is looking at him reminds me of Kat in the first panel of this page. |
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Post by Draxiss on Nov 6, 2019 23:34:31 GMT
Calling it now: Coyote never really 'controlled' the forest to begin with. At least, not DIRECTLY, the way Loup seems to think He did. That's not His style. I don't think I could quite say that He's an Anarchist (He doesn't seem to care one way or the other about the formation of a classless, stateless society), but he does enjoy messing with hierarchies.
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Post by justhalf on Nov 7, 2019 1:22:30 GMT
Didnt Coyote also state that he never was _really_ alive? Or was that the Psychopomps? Probably you were thinking of Jones |
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Post by madjack on Nov 7, 2019 3:23:53 GMT
Coyote looks like he's getting smaller as the conversation goes on, perhaps that will continue until he vanishes, almost certainly with the last laugh.
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Post by TheClockworkCoyote on Nov 7, 2019 7:20:41 GMT
Trust a trickster god to find a way to cheat at death. "And that was only one of the many occasions on which I met my death, an experience which I never hesitate strongly to recommend." --The Adventures of Baron von Munchausen (1988) |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Nov 7, 2019 12:32:09 GMT
You know what Coyote was very good at, that Loup totally lacks? The ability to DANCE AND PAR-TAY!!!
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Post by jda on Nov 7, 2019 13:58:31 GMT
Trust a trickster god to find a way to cheat at death. "And that was only one of the many occasions on which I met my death, an experience which I never hesitate strongly to recommend." --The Adventures of Baron von Munchausen (1988) Cest magnifique that a reference to Münchausen is made when talking about Coyote, since he was a man only known by the strength and extravagance of his lies on stories. I remember the part when he was deep to the neck with his horse in a swamp, and, being so strong and having no support point, he took the horse by the reins and pulled both of them out of the mud while still being on the horse. |
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Post by mashivan on Nov 7, 2019 16:39:52 GMT
Does anyone else not like how Loup looks? He seems so rigid, especially his snout in the second panel looks stunted.
It's so noticeable compared to Coyote's fluid look, especially Coyote's bold solid colors. I can't help but feel this is intentional
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Post by TheClockworkCoyote on Nov 7, 2019 18:44:10 GMT
"And that was only one of the many occasions on which I met my death, an experience which I never hesitate strongly to recommend." --The Adventures of Baron von Munchausen (1988) Cest magnifique that a reference to Münchausen is made when talking about Coyote, since he was a man only known by the strength and extravagance of his lies on stories. I remember the part when he was deep to the neck with his horse in a swamp, and, being so strong and having no support point, he took the horse by the reins and pulled both of them out of the mud while still being on the horse. Tricksters are a favorite subject of mine  A friend once described me as "Not everyone strives to be a blend of Coyote and Loki. Just you." |
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