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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 30, 2019 7:05:00 GMT
Looks like both Antimonies will be around a while longer. I suppose the more Antimonies around the greater the odds that one will do what he wants. |
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Post by madjack on Oct 30, 2019 7:17:16 GMT
Driven by Ysengrin's inferiority complex. Oh boy.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 30, 2019 7:21:24 GMT
Also: I double down on my wild speculation that Coyote didn't pare down his powers as a test for Ysengrin/"Loup" but because they'd be too much for him.
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Post by madjack on Oct 30, 2019 7:41:59 GMT
Also: I double down on my wild speculation that Coyote didn't pare down his powers as a test for Ysengrin/"Loup" but because they'd be too much for him. " Responsibility! A fine word, and one of the last you will learn as a human!" Perhaps he might be trying to teach Ys/Loup the same lesson, and the only way to really experience what that means for Coyote is to live it? |
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Post by Nnelg on Oct 30, 2019 9:08:07 GMT
Okay, 90% certain now that Loup is keeping an Annie trapped in the Forest.
The remaining 10% is that he's keeping more than one.
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Post by migrantworker on Oct 30, 2019 9:59:54 GMT
Looks like both Antimonies will be around a while longer. I suppose the more Antimonies around the greater the odds that one will do what he wants. ...at which point events would probably conspire to resolve the Annies' predicament in some distressing way. Oddly, I tend to almost trust Loup: when you ask something of him, he will deliver it. With a twist to be sure, but you will get exactly what you said you wanted. We saw it when he promised to stop an attack on the Court, and stop it he did (but made no promises for other creatures doing the same, which duly continued with it). Also, resolving Annies' situation may not really be in Court's best interests. Right now both Loup and Annies have something valuable to the other, and so their bargaining positions are strong. But if Loup gets his gifts back, there will be nothing left for Annies to bargain with, except if they call upon the Court's resources. Unless... apart from Loup's guess, how sure are we that the gifts actually hold powers? |
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 30, 2019 12:26:23 GMT
Also, resolving Annies' situation may not really be in Court's best interests. Right now both Loup and Annies have something valuable to the other, and so their bargaining positions are strong. But if Loup gets his gifts back, there will be nothing left for Annies to bargain with, except if they call upon the Court's resources. Unless... apart from Loup's guess, how sure are we that the gifts actually hold powers? We are not; and Loup only thought this of the lake water. He said the bone was one of Coyote's memories (and seemed sure of it). |
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 30, 2019 13:04:50 GMT
If this "test" (which, by the way, Loup seems to be cheating at by not doing the legwork - not that he cares) culminates in Coyote reasserting his existence, having finished experiencing death/defeat/a tour of the digestive tract, I'm going to laugh myself hoarse.
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 30, 2019 13:16:00 GMT
Well, he's not wrong. If this resolves itself, into there being one Annie, I'm going to miss the Carver Twins.
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Post by haspen on Oct 30, 2019 13:39:13 GMT
The first pose makes Loup look like a Corgi.
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Post by philistine21 on Oct 30, 2019 14:36:56 GMT
If this "test" (which, by the way, Loup seems to be cheating at by not doing the legwork - not that he cares) culminates in Coyote reasserting his existence, having finished experiencing death/defeat/a tour of the digestive tract, I'm going to laugh myself hoarse. I'm willing to bet that Coyote sees "making someone else do the legwork" as the primary way tests are passed |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 30, 2019 14:45:02 GMT
"Girls is" is improper grammar, Loup. "Girls ARE."
Of course, if two fire head girls "is" better than one, wouldn't 50 be better than two?
Or maybe not. Maybe 50 would be enough to overwhelm even Coyote or Loup. Still... is the "more Annies return" theory back in play?
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Post by jda on Oct 30, 2019 15:20:30 GMT
"Girls is" is improper grammar, Loup. "Girls ARE." Of course, if two fire head girls "is" better than one, wouldn't 50 be better than two? Or maybe not. Maybe 50 would be enough to overwhelm even Coyote or Loup. Still... is the "more Annies return" theory back in play? 50 shades of Flame |
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Post by wooftydoo on Oct 30, 2019 16:12:08 GMT
Where Rey manifests pupils in the familiar space to look very unimpressed.
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Post by DonDueed on Oct 30, 2019 17:16:12 GMT
"Girls is" is improper grammar, Loup. "Girls ARE." It can work if you assume an unspoken subject, or subject clause: "(The situation of having) two fire head girls is better than (the situation of having) one."
Or put another way, it is better to have two fire head girls than one. Who can argue with that?  |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 30, 2019 21:35:28 GMT
"Girls is" is improper grammar, Loup. "Girls ARE." It can work if you assume an unspoken subject, or subject clause: "(The situation of having) two fire head girls is better than (the situation of having) one." Editors would revolt if we had to consider unspoken or imaginary subjects. English grammar is enough of a mess as it is, without "that's not what the author meant." "If it was so, it might be, and if it were so, it would be, but as it isn't, it ain't" - Lewis Carroll. |
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Post by warrl on Oct 30, 2019 23:06:17 GMT
Editors would revolt if we had to consider unspoken or imaginary subjects. English grammar is enough of a mess as it is, without "that's not what the author meant." Stop! Tell me what the (grammatical) subject of the first sentence in this paragraph is! Or the second for that matter! And just try to do a grammatical analysis of the third, which has neither subject nor verb, yet is perfectly understandable English! |
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Post by DonDueed on Oct 31, 2019 2:21:19 GMT
Lots of commenters have mentioned Rey's ticked-off expression, but nobody seems to have noticed fAnnie. She is definitely all done with Loup using her hair as a wading pool.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 31, 2019 6:02:09 GMT
Editors would revolt if we had to consider unspoken or imaginary subjects. English grammar is enough of a mess as it is, without "that's not what the author meant." Stop! Tell me what the (grammatical) subject of the first sentence in this paragraph is! Or the second for that matter! And just try to do a grammatical analysis of the third, which has neither subject nor verb, yet is perfectly understandable English! The first sentence is an interjection. It follows the rules of proper grammar. The second sentence is imperative, or a command. The third is a sentence fragment. All three sentences are understandable. Loup's sentence can also be understood as written, but the grammar is jarring. The goal of good grammar is not just to make a sentence readable, but to make certain it reads well. |
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Post by arf on Oct 31, 2019 8:16:06 GMT
The first pose makes Loup look like a Corgi. A callback to when Rey was owned by Kat? (and he's with her at the moment) For now, it seems to me that Courtney is out of the Loup. |
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Post by spritznar on Nov 1, 2019 5:22:47 GMT
Stop! Tell me what the (grammatical) subject of the first sentence in this paragraph is! Or the second for that matter! And just try to do a grammatical analysis of the third, which has neither subject nor verb, yet is perfectly understandable English! The first sentence is an interjection. It follows the rules of proper grammar. The second sentence is imperative, or a command. The third is a sentence fragment. All three sentences are understandable. Loup's sentence can also be understood as written, but the grammar is jarring. The goal of good grammar is not just to make a sentence readable, but to make certain it reads well. being interjections, imperatives, or fragments doesn't negate the point that they have assumed subjects. also, whether loup's sentence is jarring or not is subjective. i did not find it to be so and suspect its defenders agree with that sentiment. ( there is no one true grammar) (("more is better" or "more are better"?)) |
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Post by warrl on Nov 1, 2019 6:22:09 GMT
In discussions of grammar, there is the slight issue that our technical language for grammar is all borrowed from Latin, and barely adequate for Latin, and then applied to a language that is quite unlike Latin.
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Post by spritznar on Nov 1, 2019 6:41:30 GMT
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Post by Gemini Jim on Nov 1, 2019 8:00:48 GMT
The first sentence is an interjection. It follows the rules of proper grammar. The second sentence is imperative, or a command. The third is a sentence fragment. All three sentences are understandable. Loup's sentence can also be understood as written, but the grammar is jarring. The goal of good grammar is not just to make a sentence readable, but to make certain it reads well. being interjections, imperatives, or fragments doesn't negate the point that they have assumed subjects. "Assumed subject" is just another way of saying it doesn't need a subject. They are understandable without one. The problem with Loup's sentence is that it already has a perfectly good subject, "Two fire head girls." Either way, it needs a minor fix to avoid confusion - either add the superfluous assumed subject, "the situation of having," or change the verb from "is" to "are." The second solution is simpler, as Occam would say. And with that, I'll say good night. |
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Post by arkadi on Nov 1, 2019 10:53:34 GMT
Also: I double down on my wild speculation that Coyote didn't pare down his powers as a test for Ysengrin/"Loup" but because they'd be too much for him. I stand by my theory that the true purpose of the "gifts" is to undo Loup and restore Coyote. |
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Post by arkadi on Nov 1, 2019 10:56:55 GMT
"Not powerful enough to keep the forest in order"
Coyote's power kept the forest in chaos, Renard. But I get your point.
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