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Post by csj on Oct 25, 2019 7:06:34 GMT
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Post by madjack on Oct 25, 2019 7:07:49 GMT
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Take your like and get out.
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Post by csj on Oct 25, 2019 7:18:45 GMT
but... it's my roomthread...
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Post by migrantworker on Oct 25, 2019 9:03:21 GMT
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 25, 2019 11:18:21 GMT
False shift alarm, they are still in the same place.
Since when does Annie call the Anwyn "tree elves"? Does she dumb down her language on purpose for Loup?
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Post by todd on Oct 25, 2019 12:38:17 GMT
And, naturally, Loup shifts the conversation away from the two Annies' request to the change in their connection to Renard - I wonder if it's the Coyote-side of him at work, constantly digressing, changing the subject, a source of frustration to anyone who wants to address the immediate problems. (We might even be in for another "how the etheric world works" lecture, with the goosebone-and-water situation placed on hold until Loup's finished delivering it.)
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Post by netherdan on Oct 25, 2019 14:09:52 GMT
False shift alarm, they are still in the same place. Well it looks like I need to look into the new page and thread before commenting on older ones. False shift alarm indeed. Since when does Annie call the Anwyn "tree elves"? Does she dumb down her language on purpose for Loup? Uuh... Because Anwyn is the name of a tree elf family? There you go @korba , more evidence! |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 25, 2019 14:52:29 GMT
I could be wrong, but he looks fairly freaked out about her being linked to Rey.
Maybe he realizes that Rey could be listening in to their conversation, so he can't do any funny business without getting caught.
Also, nice fakeout on being separated (yet).
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 25, 2019 15:10:18 GMT
Since when does Annie call the Anwyn "tree elves"? Does she dumb down her language on purpose for Loup? Uuh... Because Anwyn is the name of a tree elf family? There you go @korba , more evidence! D'oh, right...we just had that discussion, which I had completely forgotten. I am beginning to believe as well that Anwyn is the name of a big clan of tree elves, then. |
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Post by netherdan on Oct 25, 2019 15:42:04 GMT
Uuh... Because Anwyn is the name of a tree elf family? There you go @korba , more evidence! D'oh, right...we just had that discussion, which I had completely forgotten. I am beginning to believe as well that Anwyn is the name of a big clan of tree elves, then. And I also believe that Canvey is a bit over-expressive with everything it hears about Annie (or anything really). Unless you believe that Red and Ayilu are moons who got pushed together, they're almost certainly exaggerating the whole prince of the Anwyn thing and Kamlen is just the older descendant of the Anwyn family/clan. |
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Post by Eily on Oct 25, 2019 18:27:14 GMT
Hmmm, does Annie's direct control over Renard (unlike the control over his body she previously had) extend to the power he owns? Even if he were to give it up? And I'll give myself an anti-cookie for "guessing" that the Annies had been shifted back to their timelines. Lucky me they are exactly identical to regular cookies, except a lot warmer  |
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Post by alevice on Oct 25, 2019 18:54:57 GMT
IT JUST DAWNED ON ME!
The 2 point of view thing we get is basically rey peering through both annies! Not some Loup distortion.
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Post by DonDueed on Oct 25, 2019 19:18:29 GMT
Maybe Loup changed the subject so abruptly because he doesn't know how to unfreeze the tree elves, at least not without some disastrous further degradation of the ethereal forest.
Am I correct in thinking that the force that's causing that degradation (which Coyote was suppressing but Loup can't) is the Court's ethereal experiments (viz Power Station)? That's the general consensus, right?
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Post by Runningflame on Oct 25, 2019 20:13:10 GMT
I could be wrong, but he looks fairly freaked out about her being linked to Rey. I think he looks excited. His posture is called a "play-bow" in dogs, and usually precedes some high-energy romping. |
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Post by todd on Oct 26, 2019 0:34:15 GMT
Am I correct in thinking that the force that's causing that degradation (which Coyote was suppressing but Loup can't) is the Court's ethereal experiments (viz Power Station)? That's the general consensus, right? That's what I've suspected as well - and I think it's going to be one of the big complications facing Annie(s) in trying to solve the conflict between the Court and the Forest. I can't imagine the Court leadership agreeing to halt its project that it's spent generations on (and which are probably the whole point of the Court's existence), and as long as the project threatens the Forest, a lot of the forest-folk are going to be hostile towards the Court and want to shut it down. I suspect that this can't be solved, either, by simply sticking "etheric pollution filters" onto the power station. Even trying to set up a new barrier between the two won't solve the problem for long; the forest-folk will just brood and fester in their hate for the Court, until eventually something happens to the barrier (especially if the new one's founded on more corrupt acts like the murder of Jeanne) and the open war resumes. |
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Post by bedinsis on Oct 26, 2019 9:58:23 GMT
Maybe Loup changed the subject so abruptly because he doesn't know how to unfreeze the tree elves, at least not without some disastrous further degradation of the ethereal forest. Given that he on the last page abruptly changed the subject when the subject was something he found less interesting I read it as he hearing "blah-blah-blah, boring complications in getting my powers back" and his mind wandering to "hey something is different with fire head girl". Also, I think he would arrogantly display his powers, potential consequences be damned. |
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Post by todd on Oct 26, 2019 12:41:07 GMT
And Coyote (whom Loup has absorbed) showed similar tendencies to stray from the subject - like holding up the meeting between the Court and the Forest in Chapter Fourteen to talk about old stories about himself.
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Post by netherdan on Oct 26, 2019 23:07:33 GMT
Also, I think he would arrogantly display his powers, potential consequences be damned. And Coyote (whom Loup has absorbed) showed similar tendencies to stray from the subject - like holding up the meeting between the Court and the Forest in Chapter Fourteen to talk about old stories about himself. At least Coyote planned ahead to avert obvious disasters. For example, I just realized that this was the reason he waited for Jeanne to be dealt with. He knew it was very possible that Loup would do that and its consequences |
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 28, 2019 4:12:55 GMT
Speaking of which. What will happen with familiar link when Annies are re-shuffled between timelines?
Or one Annie is as good as another?
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 28, 2019 8:31:14 GMT
What would happen if the place a murderous hatred filled spirit is tied to just ceased to exist? I think she would have continued haunting the Annan waters' new riverbanks, wherever they may be now (somewhere else or underground). Possibly Jeanne's ghost was not bound to the place itself but rather the place where Diego's arrow was. In any case, Mort proves that a ghost is normally not restricted to haunting places it had any connection to in life. |
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Post by netherdan on Oct 28, 2019 11:45:50 GMT
What would happen if the place a murderous hatred filled spirit is tied to just ceased to exist? I think she would have continued haunting the Annan waters' new riverbanks, wherever they may be now (somewhere else or underground). Possibly Jeanne's ghost was not bound to the place itself but rather the place where Diego's arrow was. In any case, Mort proves that a ghost is normally not restricted to haunting places it had any connection to in life. I didn't notice until someone mentioned but the little splash of water where the edges met meant that the ravine was closed all the way down. Assuming that happened I can think up of three possibilities: 1) the arrow would get stuck deep underground, no one would notice and Jeanne would be stuck for eternity (a boring one with nothing to slice); 2) the arrow would be spat out with the water that got up and she'd be stuck in the surface (and considering the extent of the ravine and why no one tried to "go around" it's safe to assume that the range of the arrow "cage" is fairly big); 3) the arrow would be destroyed and the outcome couldn't be predicted. Ranging from ceasing to exist or recovering her senses to hunting down the descendants of her perpetrators or the whole planet. |
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 28, 2019 13:30:34 GMT
I think she would have continued haunting the Annan waters' new riverbanks, wherever they may be now (somewhere else or underground). Possibly Jeanne's ghost was not bound to the place itself but rather the place where Diego's arrow was. In any case, Mort proves that a ghost is normally not restricted to haunting places it had any connection to in life. I didn't notice until someone mentioned but the little splash of water where the edges met meant that the ravine was closed all the way down. Assuming that happened I can think up of three possibilities: 1) the arrow would get stuck deep underground, no one would notice and Jeanne would be stuck for eternity (a boring one with nothing to slice); 2) the arrow would be spat out with the water that got up and she'd be stuck in the surface (and considering the extent of the ravine and why no one tried to "go around" it's safe to assume that the range of the arrow "cage" is fairly big); 3) the arrow would be destroyed and the outcome couldn't be predicted. Ranging from ceasing to exist or recovering her senses to hunting down the descendants of her perpetrators or the whole planet. Coyote didn't move forward with his "Eat Me" plan, until Jeanne was gone. I'm guessing, either he couldn't, or he was waiting so Loup would have an easier time attacking. Then again, I'm biased towards any idea that this all part of a tooth-bone-water Coyote plan. |
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Post by netherdan on Oct 29, 2019 1:02:07 GMT
Coyote didn't move forward with his "Eat Me" plan, until Jeanne was gone. I'm guessing, either he couldn't, or he was waiting so Loup would have an easier time attacking. Then again, I'm biased towards any idea that this all part of a tooth-bone-water Coyote plan. He just want some brand new story to tell Annie's daughter when they're "friends". "Oh, oh, have I told you about that time when I DIED?" "Yes, Coyote, every Friday..." "wait a second" *blink* "then tell me about it!" |
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Post by warrl on Oct 29, 2019 1:17:18 GMT
I didn't notice until someone mentioned but the little splash of water where the edges met meant that the ravine was closed all the way down. I disagree. I think it meant that the sides of the ravine did not all stay as vertical as when they were first created (they wouldn't) and in that area there was a level spot partway down that had accumulated a bit of water. If there had been water splashing up over pretty much the whole length of the ravine as it closed, that would mean it closed all the way down. |
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