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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 21, 2019 7:02:27 GMT
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Post by Timberwere on Aug 21, 2019 7:04:12 GMT
Let's just hope that rock isn't too much of a distraction.
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Post by madjack on Aug 21, 2019 7:06:33 GMT
Gonna be interesting to see what Parley/Rey perceive Cvet as.
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Post by Sauzels on Aug 21, 2019 7:09:30 GMT
Looks like the real monster was the friends we made along the way. |
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Post by philman on Aug 21, 2019 7:09:43 GMT
Either Cvet is incredibly strong to throw the stone that far, or there is some weird perspective thing going on where Parley and the rock monster thing appear much larger than they really are but are actually very close
Given that it is the title of the chapter, I guess that should have been obvious to me earlier...
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 21, 2019 7:19:16 GMT
Supposing the wisps want to keep the groups separate so they don't interact accidentally in any way that would mess with the immersion but also play them off against each other they couldn't keep them too far apart. I'd think just beyond a bow-shot distance would be ideal.
Well, better still to keep them wandering farther apart than that until they're tired and maybe a little unglued, and then move them closer and start using the dangerous ones to take the clever/talented people out, then knock out each other. Once that was done they could scatter what's left in the groups and hunt individually.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Aug 21, 2019 7:32:19 GMT
Either Cvet is incredibly strong to throw the stone that far, or there is some weird perspective thing going on where Parley and the rock monster thing appear much larger than they really are but are actually very close Given that it is the title of the chapter, I guess that should have been obvious to me earlier... There's something fucky going on with perspective for sure. Look at the follow-up of perspective on the rock in the three panels after it's thrown. The arch seems to get shorter, while the rock keeps on getting bigger... and then it hit her. That's not normal behaviour! |
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Post by arkadi on Aug 21, 2019 8:00:22 GMT
Yup! Objects don't usually look bigger the further they get from you.
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Post by stclair on Aug 21, 2019 8:02:52 GMT
The really fun thing, for me, is that this space is operating pretty much like a canon holodeck is supposed to (for groups of people in "separate locations") - messing with perspective, treadmills, and so forth.
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 21, 2019 9:24:12 GMT
Either Cvet is incredibly strong to throw the stone that far ...and Parley has an incredibly tough skull.  |
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Post by coastal on Aug 21, 2019 11:18:05 GMT
Sorry for being slow, but... what exactly does hitting Parley on the head with a rock accomplish? : /
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 21, 2019 11:40:23 GMT
Sorry for being slow, but... what exactly does hitting Parley on the head with a rock accomplish? : / Frannie can now ask Renard "Was Parley just hit by a rock?", and if Renard confirms, they can conclude that what Cvet and Frannie perceive as one of two huge monsters fighting is actually Parley. Furthermore, Cvet probably has an idea of how far she can throw a rock of a certain size, and from this can make an assumption how far away from them Parley actually is - since their usual optical determination of distance is apparently not to be trusted, as evidenced by the rock seemingly getting bigger while gaining distance. |
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 21, 2019 13:17:37 GMT
We really don't know the sanitary habits of Rogat Orjake. Thank goodness it was just a rock... unless the wisps...
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Post by ohthatone on Aug 21, 2019 13:37:08 GMT
only problem is, unless Rey can convince Parley that it was Cvet who threw the rock (barring wisp interference), she'll likely perceive it as another attack by more enemies and start fighting Cvet.
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Post by Per on Aug 21, 2019 15:18:48 GMT
Thank goodness it was just a rock... It wasn't a rock, it was a rock lobster |
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Post by ohthatone on Aug 21, 2019 15:58:39 GMT
Thank goodness it was just a rock... It wasn't a rock, it was a rock lobster well played |
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 21, 2019 16:13:58 GMT
The rock looks comparable to the size of Cvet's head in panel 4. In the last panel it looks smaller than Parley's head. Given that the title of the chapter is "Perspective" and what the relative sizes of Parley and Cvet are, I suspect either Parley has become bigger or Cvet has become smaller. |
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Post by yhbc on Aug 21, 2019 16:16:40 GMT
I don't think the rock is getting bigger as it goes farther away, I think the rock is pictured as coming from BEHIND Parley and the as yet unidentified grappler. In other words, when Cvet threw the rock, she and Annie didn't see it going away from them, they saw it coming in from the other side of the scene.
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Post by yhbc on Aug 21, 2019 16:17:50 GMT
Also, the rock hit the "Parley" figure from behind, on the back of the head.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 21, 2019 16:32:20 GMT
On further reflection, the "CLUD" in the last panel may mean that the alleged rock is no rock, but a dirt clod. I'd expect a rock shattering to make a sharper sound like "KRAK" and throwing a dirt clod would be more responsible than chucking a rock. Also: As it broke apart some of it may have passed beyond Parley's head [edit] from the perspective of the last panel, thus accounting for any change in apparent size compared to panel #4 [/edit].
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Post by warrl on Aug 21, 2019 17:08:28 GMT
Thank goodness it was just a rock... It wasn't a rock, it was a rock lobster No Cvet was the rock lobster... she's the one who lobbed the rock... |
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Post by alevice on Aug 21, 2019 17:24:22 GMT
The 3 frames show the arc ocurring 3 times, with differing perspective projections. And her throw was straight given the former frame, without an arc
This is getting beyond weird.
WHo is fighting parley?
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Post by machiavelli33 on Aug 21, 2019 20:26:13 GMT
Parley....Parley. Why you trying to choke out a rock , Parley.
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Post by davidm on Aug 22, 2019 0:56:37 GMT
I think it is a lump of dirt or clay rather than a rock, something to do a test (to see if target is really Parley) rather than injure, and easier to throw.
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Post by stclair on Aug 22, 2019 4:05:36 GMT
Parley....Parley. Why you trying to choke out a rock , Parley. "Go for the mouth or the throat, its vulnerable spots!" "It's a rock, it doesn't have any vulnerable spots! |
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Post by Igniz on Aug 22, 2019 6:12:00 GMT
there is some weird perspective thing going on where Parley and the rock monster thing appear much larger than they really are but are actually very close This. Still, I say that it's safe to assume that Cvet is incredibly strong as well. I suspect either Parley has become bigger or Cvet has become smaller. It's neither - remember, it's all a matter of [forced] perspective. Something or someone (allegedly, the aforementioned wisps; of course, this can be a red herring and the phenomena eventually be revealed to have a different source altogether) is distorting the characters' awareness and their perception of the situation and their surroundings (including sense manipulation, location displacement and failure of their own abilities), making things appear different from what they truly are. In other words, it's just an illusion (a powerful one, but an illusion nonetheless). In this page's case, from Annie's and Cvet's point of view (or should I say, perspective), objects appear larger the farther they are from them (it can be assumed that their Happy Meal includes altered characteristics and shape, otherwise they would be seeing a kaiju-sized Parley instead of a second "monster"). Kat  |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 22, 2019 9:05:11 GMT
only problem is, unless Rey can convince Parley that it was Cvet who threw the rock (barring wisp interference), she'll likely perceive it as another attack by more enemies and start fighting Cvet. Only if the groups are suddenly "allowed" to come near each other. Because until right now they have been prevented from interacting. |
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Post by jda on Aug 22, 2019 13:55:28 GMT
This is getting beyond weird. WHo is fighting parley? Jones! (It could be easily felt like fighting a rock) |
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Post by Eily on Aug 22, 2019 15:55:01 GMT
Cvet is the lead scientist of the Large Head-on Collider. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Aug 22, 2019 16:37:29 GMT
Cvet clearly can't see which one is Parley, yet she easily conks Parley on the head. From Rey's perspective (bottom panel of 2189), Parley is the one on the left. Cvet's rock also hits the rock monster on the left. You can tell because Leftie has its arms around the other rock monster. From Parley's perspective, the unexpected rock attack hits her on her right (audience left). This means that Cvet is seeing the fight from the same angle as Rey, leaving aside all wisp illusions for the moment. (Yes, it might not be wisps, but I'm assuming wisps unless Tom says otherwise. He's left a lot of clues to suggest wisps, and I feel it would be bad form to say, "ha! it was actually psiws this whole time!" EDIT: It could be Loup, playing with them like puppets on strings.) If they're not watching the fight from the same angle, then both monsters would have to be Parley. Is it possible that Parley is fighting a mirror image of herself?
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