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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 12, 2019 7:17:18 GMT
Yep they can contact Renard. And Mr. T's looking kinda rough these days. Also: I just make the thread if I'm on when the comic updates. If I'm asleep/elsewhere/incapacitated and you want to discuss the comic, go right ahead. |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jul 12, 2019 7:29:37 GMT
Ah man, and here he was concentrating to prepare for his super-ultra-mega-ultimate BiteFireFang attack!
Loving his startled face!
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Post by madjack on Jul 12, 2019 7:30:48 GMT
So they both knew they could contact him. C!Annie actually read the manual but F!Annie needed Cvet to tell her?
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Post by jda on Jul 12, 2019 7:40:45 GMT
So they both knew they could contact him. C!Annie actually read the manual but F!Annie needed Cvet to tell her? You see, with your avatar, it always sounds like a very deep question. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 12, 2019 7:44:09 GMT
When all of this is over, they're going to have to set some ground rules about proper mental radio etiquette.
Rule #1: Use Your Indoor Voice
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Post by jda on Jul 12, 2019 7:46:10 GMT
Ah man, and here he was concentrating to prepare for his super-ultra-mega-ultimate BiteFireFang attack! Loving his startled face! Haha, I don't usually like mixing of drawing styles, but the manga-ization of that last panel was very good |
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Post by madjack on Jul 12, 2019 7:47:34 GMT
So they both knew they could contact him. C!Annie actually read the manual but F!Annie needed Cvet to tell her? You see, with your avatar, it always sounds like a very deep question. What? You mean it isn't? |
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Post by csj on Jul 12, 2019 7:49:18 GMT
Annie Radio; now broadcasing in Stereo...
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Post by jda on Jul 12, 2019 7:53:09 GMT
Also, the detail on the "RENARD!"letters, may be revealing something: there are 3 layers of the word, the bottom is grey(Renard's), one other is Pink, and the third is... empty? only outlined? Whose it is: C!Annie or the F! Annie?
(can't help but see NSFW expletives on those C! and F! ... )
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 12, 2019 7:54:24 GMT
Other than "Renard" I figure the Antimonies will not choose exactly the same words... So they'll be talking over each other to some extent. In his brain. Loudly.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 12, 2019 8:31:08 GMT
So they both knew they could contact him. C!Annie actually read the manual but F!Annie needed Cvet to tell her? Maybe Frannie is now annoyed that Cvet tells her things she already knew. Or maybe Courtney read more of the manual because Clippy gave it to her. Frannie, meanwhile familiarized herself with the tracker, which she got. Not-really-related thought: I am wondering why Frannie still chooses not to wear makeup again. As far as I see it, there is nothing keeping her from doing it? (I just thought of it because in the last panel of today's comic they are both drawn without makeup.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 8:48:32 GMT
I had wished that the previous two pages had presented different immediate problems to each group without any explanation (which would in time reveal some non-obvious link between them all), but I had also hoped that GkC would never again resort to Disney monsters that impetuously clean their teeth with their fists, and in fact, forget the cleaning. I think Crash Course was the chapter to introduce them.
There's little I can say about the last panel, besides that I can't pretend to be "kind" about it. The depiction of Red's terror in Jeanne/The Other Shore worked well, as did Carver's some kind of face much earlier (in Power Station), and this does not. It's possible that "Court Annie" has indeed not developed the idea of pinging Renard, yet joins this conference simply because "Forest Annie" does, but I'm sure that impression (whether true or false) could have been conveyed without evoking Garfield. "Shorthand" has always been part of this comic, e.g. I think Renard's first "coniferous morph" occurred in Spring Heeled Pt. 2, when Zimmy mock-scared him, but some of the more recent ones do feel "toothless".
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Post by Corvo on Jul 12, 2019 10:47:00 GMT
Made my day!
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 12, 2019 11:21:59 GMT
I had wished that the previous two pages had presented different immediate problems to each group without any explanation (which would in time reveal some non-obvious link between them all), but I had also hoped that GkC would never again resort to Disney monsters that impetuously clean their teeth with their fists, and in fact, forget the cleaning. I think Crash Course was the chapter to introduce them.
There's little I can say about the last panel, besides that I can't pretend to be "kind" about it. The depiction of Red's terror in Jeanne/The Other Shore worked well, as did Carver's some kind of face much earlier (in Power Station), and this does not. It's possible that "Court Annie" has indeed not developed the idea of pinging Renard, yet joins this conference simply because "Forest Annie" does, but I'm sure that impression (whether true or false) could have been conveyed without evoking Garfield. "Shorthand" has always been part of this comic, e.g. I think Renard's first "coniferous morph" occurred in Spring Heeled Pt. 2, when Zimmy mock-scared him, but some of the more recent ones do feel "toothless".
I do not understand why you compare those panels. The first two were drawn in an entirely different style, and showed very different reactions by the characters depicted. Yes, the last panel of this page does look very cartoony, but IMHO not any more than on previous occasions. And what's wrong with the guy Parley is wrestling with? That his teeth are colored brown? I am not sure I understand your critique of that either. In any case, the existence of those monsters was introduced in a long chapter, it would be very strange if not at least some of them had invaded when they had the chance.
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Post by saardvark on Jul 12, 2019 12:03:04 GMT
It certainly adds a comic touch that the Annies contact Renard simultaneously, but it is almost vanishingly improbable. Is there something else at work here? Some Annie-as-joint-familiar-owner linkage, or split timeline synching (if we have split timelines going here), or Andrew effects (tho he seems absent), or ...? (Or maybe just a Tom joke, and Im reading too much into it!)
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Post by netherdan on Jul 12, 2019 12:41:00 GMT
It certainly adds a comic touch that the Annies contact Renard simultaneously, but it is almost vanishingly improbable. Is there something else at work here? Some Annie-as-joint-familiar-owner linkage, or split timeline synching (if we have split timelines going here), or Andrew effects (tho he seems absent), or  ...?  (Or maybe just a Tom joke, and Im reading too much into it!) Maybe they both sensed that Reynard were in danger, or one of them contacted Reynard and the other heard and got startled and screamed and they all gone AAAAAA It seems like they didn't practice their new familiar abilities after all |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 12, 2019 12:54:12 GMT
It certainly adds a comic touch that the Annies contact Renard simultaneously, but it is almost vanishingly improbable. Is there something else at work here? Some Annie-as-joint-familiar-owner linkage, or split timeline synching (if we have split timelines going here), or Andrew effects (tho he seems absent), or ...? (Or maybe just a Tom joke, and Im reading too much into it!) Maybe they both sensed that Reynard were in danger, or one of them contacted Reynard and the other heard and got startled and screamed and they all gone AAAAAA It seems like they didn't practice their new familiar abilities after all both sensing he was in danger sounds like a reasonable familiar-connected possibility... we don't know the extent of familiar-related abilities yet, tho I think we will be seeing some shortly! |
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Post by aline on Jul 12, 2019 13:38:26 GMT
both sensing he was in danger sounds like a reasonable familiar-connected possibility... we don't know the extent of familiar-related abilities yet, tho I think we will be seeing some shortly! Sometimes things in comics happen just for humor. Like when Kat suddenly had a cup of tea to offer to Juliet. Also they both needed to contact the rest of their party and it was the only available option, it's not that much of a stretch. So they both knew they could contact him. C!Annie actually read the manual but F!Annie needed Cvet to tell her? My guess is they probably both read the manual, which is why they both new *how* to contact Renard, but this particular feature didn't occur to either of them immediately because they're still fairly new to the whole familiar thing. |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 12, 2019 14:13:43 GMT
Sometimes things in comics happen just for humor. Like when Kat suddenly had a cup of tea to offer to Juliet. Also they both needed to contact the rest of their party and it was the only available option, it's not that much of a stretch. Oh of course! It could just be a joke (as I also suggested above). Its not at all a stretch that they would be contacting him, the stretch is that it is precisely simultaneous, despite their being well separated. Joke or indicating something more? (You may well be right, but I was just pointing out some possibly interesting alternatives...) ( But this is England, isn't tea almost, like, omni-present?) |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 12, 2019 14:48:49 GMT
Do you want etheric tinnitus? Because that's how you get etheric tinnitus.
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Post by jda on Jul 12, 2019 14:52:35 GMT
It certainly adds a comic touch that the Annies contact Renard simultaneously, but it is almost vanishingly improbable. Is there something else at work here? Some Annie-as-joint-familiar-owner linkage, or split timeline synching (if we have split timelines going here), or Andrew effects (tho he seems absent), or ...? (Or maybe just a Tom joke, and Im reading too much into it!) We are all reading a bit too much on it, but to me it seems simple that a)both Annies are synced, as in they have basically the same brain and beliefs and behaviors, so they could easily react equally in time, specially if the Familiarization of Rey linked them even more. and b) as Harry Potter said in HP and the Methods of Rationalism: "one in a million casualities happen everyday. If you are a one in a million person, it means there are about 8000 of you". |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 12, 2019 16:25:50 GMT
I wonder why nobody has attempted to (physically, not mentally) yell, "hello??? Can anybody hear me? I'm over here!"
Sure, any yelling or shouting could just echo off the walls or be muted somehow, but you would think somebody would try.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 16:49:02 GMT
I do not understand why you compare those panels. The first two were drawn in an entirely different style, and showed very different reactions by the characters depicted. Yes, the last panel of this page does look very cartoony, but IMHO not any more than on previous occasions. Then I cannot tell what emotion that panel is meant to express (regarding Annie; Renard's is clear), because I thought it was immense fear. Perhaps it's rather like Annie screaming into a telephone because she hasn't yet figured out the appropriate volume, but that changes nothing: I don't like the presentation at all. It's an unmemorable design, it resembles nothing that lives in a natural forest, it apparently exists for the sole purpose of attaching Action Fists, perpetually clenched, and it only comes up for measuring the strength of its opponent, without introducing its own complexity, thus essentially no conflict (also wholly different from Jeanne). That's "prejudice", but there has been no follow-up characterization on the Crash Course encounters, either, which are the sole measure I can apply here. Perhaps I'm missing some mythological allusion, but does that make the treatment of the borrowed subject more interesting? I haven't always been fond of Hetty's characterization: she raised an interesting conflict and unseen "sadistic" side of Renard which were promptly voided by murderous bloodlust being her sole apparent motivation, and her all-too-limited purpose as a foil for Renard to resolve his guilt -- although her appearance has also established that at least one other character than Antimony (and Parley) is represented by an alchemical element, and in fact, New Contract has explained why/how her ownership was transferred. I found her design very well-executed, though (the red button on her handbag, or the cutting of her skirt, revealed on the bonus page; for both, the explanation can be inferred -- once "morphologically", once "psychologically"). For a fictitious woodland critter whose design I like, take the Chickcharney. If you need to have trolls and giants, compare e.g. the story of "Utgard-Loki" for how a sympathetic band of travellers meets strange challenges and seemingly fails them all, until it's revealed that not only is their host far more cunning than he appeared, but also far more afraid of them, everything around them was enchanted to give a different appearance (including himself, which also clashes with the general idea of giants as simple-minded creatures of incredible strength; Utgard-Loki is a subsequent nickname, the involved deities' version of "interpretatio Romana"), and that they performed as well in the competitions as they did was a major feat (racing against Thought, consuming against Fire, wrestling with Old Age, and lifting part of the Midgard Snake). This wisp's nest is a tremendous chance for deceptive encounters and strange magic, not meaningless "who would win" violence that I didn't enjoy the last few times it came up in the comic. I know what happens when Thor dons his hammer, gloves and girdle. I'm more interested in what happens when they get stolen. |
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Post by DonDueed on Jul 12, 2019 17:25:24 GMT
Isn't it a little early to pass judgment on this ogre/troll guy? He's been in exactly one page, and all we know about him is that he's fighting Parley (with some success, it seems). For all we know he could be a wisp casting an illusion of trolldom.
I wondered if that guy might have appeared among the monsters in Chapter 44, but I don't see him.
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Post by ohthatone on Jul 12, 2019 18:01:27 GMT
love the last panel! Wonder if he can put them on hold. he can start thinking of a song and it can be their hold music.
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Post by Eversist on Jul 12, 2019 19:20:31 GMT
I wonder why nobody has attempted to (physically, not mentally) yell, "hello??? Can anybody hear me? I'm over here!" Sure, any yelling or shouting could just echo off the walls or be muted somehow, but you would think somebody would try. I mean... considering they're in hostile territory, why would you announce your presence like that? |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 12, 2019 22:45:30 GMT
Then I cannot tell what emotion that panel is meant to express (regarding Annie; Renard's is clear), because I thought it was immense fear. Perhaps it's rather like Annie screaming into a telephone because she hasn't yet figured out the appropriate volume, but that changes nothing: I don't like the presentation at all. To me the way it is depicted represents how it feels to Renard. Both Annies yelling into his Etheric ear and it feels very silly to him. Why should the creature resemble anything living in a natural forest? Gillitie is not a natural forest. You named the Chickcharney. The chapter where it appeared was also full of strange creatures, some easily recognizable as coming from mythology, some not. The big guy here seems to be a run-of-the-mill troll or ogre. Creatures like it are found in folk tales all over Europe. Also, you are a bit quick in comparing this single page to a whole story. This page started in medias res, who knows how this creature will turn out to be characterized? Maybe it will be shown to respect strength and this was its way of greeting. Maybe it stays uncharacterized because it was just a wisp's illusion. Maybe the whole fight was just a big misunderstanding. I at least would counsel you to give the comic a few more pages before passing judgment.
I wonder why nobody has attempted to (physically, not mentally) yell, "hello??? Can anybody hear me? I'm over here!" Sure, any yelling or shouting could just echo off the walls or be muted somehow, but you would think somebody would try. Maybe that's what Parley did and we are now seeing the result. |
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Post by DonDueed on Jul 13, 2019 0:52:40 GMT
In other news... ogre-troll has the most impressive Mohawk-mullet ever.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 13, 2019 21:40:51 GMT
I wonder why nobody has attempted to (physically, not mentally) yell, "hello??? Can anybody hear me? I'm over here!" Sure, any yelling or shouting could just echo off the walls or be muted somehow, but you would think somebody would try. Maybe that's what Parley did and we are now seeing the result. I would headcanon this idea, except nobody seems to have reacted. ("That sounded like Parley!") I suppose it's possible that they couldn't hear her. In hindsight, bringing along some walkie-talkies would have been a great idea. |
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Post by warrl on Jul 14, 2019 6:01:40 GMT
And here I read that panel as all three of them (Annie, Annie, and Renard) calling out to Renard.
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