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Post by madjack on Jun 26, 2019 7:28:23 GMT
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manabi
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Post by manabi on Jun 26, 2019 7:47:36 GMT
Perhaps we can dub this new species, Homo Kattus.
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Post by avurai on Jun 26, 2019 7:50:31 GMT
I’ve been primed to think of this interaction as creepy due to his history of behaving like a cult leader, but that’s genuinely a powerful statement from Robot.
It’s easy to see why he has so many robots listening to his sermons.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jun 26, 2019 7:59:23 GMT
He's so frikkin' tall! Also, and I know this might be controversial, but I still want to know... how did Kat model him... you know... down there? Or was that perhaps all Tony's doing?
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Post by noone3 on Jun 26, 2019 8:33:23 GMT
how did Kat model him... you know... down there? Or was that perhaps all Tony's doing? It was said that Juliette participated in the project. Nuff, said... Anyway, not only is Kat a mom at 15, she is a mother of a species now. An Eve technically...
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Post by drdave on Jun 26, 2019 8:43:41 GMT
did tom say how long gunnerkrigg will be running? because I get the feeling of the end times approaching
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Post by arf on Jun 26, 2019 9:33:38 GMT
R100 clicker*, reporting for duty. *Despite (or because of) its B-grade schlock, I can imagine Creation of the Humanoids being Kat's kind of movie.
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Post by mordekai on Jun 26, 2019 10:14:39 GMT
how did Kat model him... you know... down there? Or was that perhaps all Tony's doing? It was said that Juliette participated in the project. Nuff, said... Anyway, not only is Kat a mom at 15, she is a mother of a species now. An Eve technically... Kat isn't Eve. . She's either Yahweh or Prometheus, I'm still not sure about which one...
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Post by netherdan on Jun 26, 2019 12:17:50 GMT
He's so frikkin' tall! Also, and I know this might be controversial, but I still want to know... how did Kat model him... you know... down there? Or was that perhaps all Tony's doing? Arthur modeled it himself with some inputs from Tony, remember they discussed "boy stuff"? Maybe it isn't a good idea to let a pubescent teen design an adult reproductive organ of the opposite gender... Or any gender in Kat's case since she seems bisexual... The idealization might go a bit too far! PS: can we even call it "reproductive" in this situation? It's not like Arthur will be able to successfully produce an offspring with a human... Maybe it's just for the funny bits or maybe it's functional among their unnamed new species. Can we discuss the repercussions of them having a functional reproductive system? Not only this species could exist but it could multiply and effectively create life from "nothing"
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Post by DonDueed on Jun 26, 2019 12:36:37 GMT
Panel 3: It's that new chassis smell!
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Post by Eily on Jun 26, 2019 12:41:32 GMT
I wonder why. The main idea for him getting a body was basically so that he could be with Juliet, so she might have prefered for him not to be that much taller than her. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't give much thought to the idea, there is far more variety in size among robots, the current one might seem isignificant to him. But it's cool if he got to do his own thing rather than design his whole body around his partner Edit: oh and he might also be "The last of us them" if Kat can't reuse the same process again.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jun 26, 2019 12:57:55 GMT
He's so frikkin' tall! Also, and I know this might be controversial, but I still want to know... how did Kat model him... you know... down there? Or was that perhaps all Tony's doing? Arthur modeled it himself with some inputs from Tony, remember they discussed "boy stuff"? Maybe it isn't a good idea to let a pubescent teen design an adult reproductive organ of the opposite gender... Or any gender in Kat's case since she seems bisexual... The idealization might go a bit too far! PS: can we even call it "reproductive" in this situation? It's not like Arthur will be able to successfully produce an offspring with a human... Maybe it's just for the funny bits or maybe it's functional among their unnamed new species. Can we discuss the repercussions of them having a functional reproductive system? Not only this species could exist but it could multiply and effectively create life from "nothing" Yeah, true. But even if Arthur himself had a hand in it, the minds of the robots aren't especially mentally advanced either, so he might also have made... broad assumptions in one direction or another. And as far as reproduction goes, while the questions are MIGHTY interesting, I don't think they'll come up here again. The repercussions would be of ULTRA-LOUP-ian scale.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jun 26, 2019 13:00:06 GMT
I wonder why. The main idea for him getting a body was basically so that he could be with Juliet, so she might have prefered for him not to be that much taller than her. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't give much thought to the idea, there is far more variety in size among robots, the current one might seem isignificant to him. But it's cool if he got to do his own thing rather than design his whole body around his partner Edit: oh and he might also be "The last of us them" if Kat can't reuse the same process again. Next thing Arthur does: "Huh, I see there's a /growth subroutine in my systems now, let me just readjust to you Juliet" *Arthur shortens his legs, but forgets his arms, Arthur now looks like a human box bot... OH NO!
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Post by netherdan on Jun 26, 2019 13:19:17 GMT
Next thing Arthur does: "Huh, I see there's a /growth subroutine in my systems now, let me just readjust to you Juliet" *Arthur shortens his legs, but forgets his arms, Arthur now looks like a human box bot... OH NO! He does have a /growth subroutine now but it's subconscious and NOT for the limbs. Your abrupt change of subject while previously discussing robot penises confused my train of thought, so to me it seemed that you were talking about that kinda growth
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 26, 2019 13:53:21 GMT
It was said that Juliette participated in the project. Nuff, said... Anyway, not only is Kat a mom at 15, she is a mother of a species now. An Eve technically... Kat isn't Eve. . She's either Yahweh or Prometheus, I'm still not sure about which one... But not a universe creator. A techno-Prometheus hits a lot of Kat's bullet points. Of course, a techno-Prometheus is just a jump to the left and a step to the right of Frankenstein, so... I think Juliette and Arthur should have a happy ending, but I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Post by darlos9d on Jun 26, 2019 13:55:44 GMT
I dunno robot, flesh is pretty limited too.
The robot religion sure involves a lot of self-loathing.
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Post by saardvark on Jun 26, 2019 14:09:06 GMT
But not a universe creator. A techno-Prometheus hits a lot of Kat's bullet points. Of course, a techno-Prometheus is just a jump to the left and a step to the right of Frankenstein, so... so... lets do the Time Warp again? (crazy dancing ensues...)
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 26, 2019 16:54:04 GMT
I wonder why. The main idea for him getting a body was basically so that he could be with Juliet, so she might have prefered for him not to be that much taller than her. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't give much thought to the idea, there is far more variety in size among robots, the current one might seem isignificant to him. But it's cool if he got to do his own thing rather than design his whole body around his partner Edit: oh and he might also be "The last of us them" if Kat can't reuse the same process again. My headcanon is that Arthur looked at different pictures of male humans and finally picked a basketball player as the template for his new chassis body.
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Post by shadow3 on Jun 26, 2019 17:16:00 GMT
"The first of us...to [Bow Chika Wowow]..."
"Free to [Bow Chika Wowow]..."
"Reborn for the purpose of [Bow Chika Wowow]..."
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Post by saardvark on Jun 26, 2019 17:39:24 GMT
Anyway, not only is Kat a mom at 15, she is a mother of a species now. An Eve technically... L. Cranach?
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Post by jda on Jun 26, 2019 20:10:15 GMT
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Post by clover on Jun 26, 2019 20:10:34 GMT
Juliette, for all her trouble, had effectively received a bespoke unit.
With a bespoke, ah, unit
An engineered, bespoke unit
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Post by mturtle7 on Jun 26, 2019 21:09:17 GMT
I love Kat's awkward attempts to pretend like she wasn't just in a magical spirit trial with a giant mythical Arbiter with multiple earth-shattering pieces of news for her, and is in fact just running her diagnostics because everything is definitely normal, yup, right back to the planned routine and not upsetting Juliet or Arthur. Yup. Yuuuuuuuuuup.
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Post by tustin2121 on Jun 26, 2019 21:33:44 GMT
I dunno robot, flesh is pretty limited too. The robot religion sure involves a lot of self-loathing. The robot religion stuff is a pretty good allegory to people seeking Transhumanisim, those which seek to move past their own limited bodies, upload their minds, defeat death, that sort of stuff. You have to give up the pleasure and pains of the flesh to live forever, and what does forever give you?
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Post by avurai on Jun 26, 2019 21:57:01 GMT
I dunno robot, flesh is pretty limited too. The robot religion sure involves a lot of self-loathing. The robot religion stuff is a pretty good allegory to people seeking Transhumanisim, those which seek to move past their own limited bodies, upload their minds, defeat death, that sort of stuff. You have to give up the pleasure and pains of the flesh to live forever, and what does forever give you? And, in fairness to robots that only this page has made me feel privy to, flesh isn’t remotely-operable. If the Court wanted it, they could probably hack into Robot’s body and keep him locked up too. They’re essentially all enslaved to the Court. It’s easy to understand their fixation on the freedoms of flesh.
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Post by Runningflame on Jun 26, 2019 22:32:27 GMT
" This is a happy occasion, so I will make smile attempt number 3029." I dunno robot, flesh is pretty limited too. The robot religion sure involves a lot of self-loathing. The robot religion stuff is a pretty good allegory to people seeking Transhumanisim, those which seek to move past their own limited bodies, upload their minds, defeat death, that sort of stuff. You have to give up the pleasure and pains of the flesh to live forever, and what does forever give you? ... I never picked up on that parallel before! Fascinating.
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Post by warrl on Jun 26, 2019 23:56:22 GMT
But not a universe creator. A techno-Prometheus hits a lot of Kat's bullet points. Of course, a techno-Prometheus is just a jump to the left and a step to the right of Frankenstein, so... so... lets do the Time Warp again? (crazy dancing ensues...) Shelley we all know it.
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Post by speedwell on Jun 27, 2019 0:59:41 GMT
I wonder why. The main idea for him getting a body was basically so that he could be with Juliet, so she might have prefered for him not to be that much taller than her. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't give much thought to the idea, there is far more variety in size among robots, the current one might seem isignificant to him. But it's cool if he got to do his own thing rather than design his whole body around his partner Edit: oh and he might also be "The last of us them" if Kat can't reuse the same process again. He's had many different bodies, with many different size ratios to Juliet. My gut feeling is that his new height is going to play into human power and threat signalling in a deeply Uncanny Valley sort of way, and that all Tony and Kat were really thinking of was the idea that "being tall is socially better".
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Post by madjack on Jun 27, 2019 1:01:50 GMT
I dunno robot, flesh is pretty limited too. The robot religion sure involves a lot of self-loathing. The robot religion stuff is a pretty good allegory to people seeking Transhumanisim, those which seek to move past their own limited bodies, upload their minds, defeat death, that sort of stuff. You have to give up the pleasure and pains of the flesh to live forever, and what does forever give you? Except it's actually the complete opposite. The robots are almost explicitly spelled out as children trying to understand their parents decisions. This transformation isn't to get away from humanity, it's to become closer to it to try to understand why they are here. They certainly aren't rejecting death. The religion springing up is an illustration in this case of someone very young not having the perspective to understand that, for example, this is just an early-stage experiment and attaching far more weight to it and a barely-related statement that came with it (although to be fair, it is extremely important to them). Their surrogate mother figure in Kat is also too young to realise she needs to deal with them as children in that sense. She also lacks a lot of the perspective too since she's still growing up herself. On the other hand, while the robot religion sure is taking off, the jury is still out on how it really got started.
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Post by bicarbonat on Jun 27, 2019 1:30:03 GMT
The robot religion stuff is a pretty good allegory to people seeking Transhumanisim, those which seek to move past their own limited bodies, upload their minds, defeat death, that sort of stuff. You have to give up the pleasure and pains of the flesh to live forever, and what does forever give you? And, in fairness to robots that only this page has made me feel privy to, flesh isn’t remotely-operable. If the Court wanted it, they could probably hack into Robot’s body and keep him locked up too. They’re essentially all enslaved to the Court. It’s easy to understand their fixation on the freedoms of flesh. Not to mention, I don't think Robot would be keen on fully embracing the freedoms of the flesh, considering that they bring their own susceptibility to manipulation and cruel destruction [see: Jeanne and Tony & the forest creatures for the supernatural side; Mortimer and the poor burned boy Martin on the natural side]. Which leads me to ponder Robot's possible end goal (if he's thought that far): a 3rd thing, content to neither remain disposable, indentured hardware nor duplicate all of humanity's frailties. That 3rd thing would be a pretty strong contender, as far as inheritors of the Earth go. And if you acquired or improved items like that etheric power-binding paper...
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