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Post by Gemini Jim on Jun 24, 2019 7:15:52 GMT
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Post by madjack on Jun 24, 2019 7:26:39 GMT
The pupils can dialate with shock...
Damn, Kat.
Edit: Actually that's the irises, duh. Still extremely impressive. Or is it just the artstyle?
Edit again: After some deliberation it's almost certainly the artistically consistent way of representing said dialation of pupils and thus I am standing by my original italicised damn.
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Post by manabi on Jun 24, 2019 8:43:01 GMT
The pupils can dialate with shock... Damn, Kat. Edit: Actually that's the irises, duh. Still extremely impressive. Or is it just the artstyle? What Kat has accomplished here is absolutely incredible. This surpasses her previous work by a huge margin, and I'm including Robot's body in that. She's created a human-like body that has natural skin tones and hair; an expressive face, including eyes; and transferred a "soul" from a machine into that body. At this point all she needs to do is create new "souls" and she'll have the whole creating life aspect of godhood complete. This makes even her anti-gravity device from chapter eight look like a middle school science fair project.
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Post by Eily on Jun 24, 2019 9:15:18 GMT
Cookie to saardvark for this one Interestingly(?) Robot's bubbles now that he has more organic bits (like the ship) have NOT moved in this direction... Because Tom thought it was significant enough to point out the change in Arthur's voice for this page. Anti-cookie for me for saying there was a chance Arthur would not be able to talk at all while he gets used to the body. Edit: and another anti-cookie because he only has five fingers on each hand
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 24, 2019 9:46:18 GMT
The pupils can dialate with shock... Damn, Kat. Edit: Actually that's the irises, duh. Still extremely impressive. Or is it just the artstyle? What Kat has accomplished here is absolutely incredible. This surpasses her previous work by a huge margin, and I'm including Robot's body in that. She's created a human-like body that has natural skin tones and hair; an expressive face, including eyes; and transferred a "soul" from a machine into that body. At this point all she needs to do is create new "souls" and she'll have the whole creating life aspect of godhood complete. This makes even her anti-gravity device from chapter eight look like a middle school science fair project. The important thing about this project were the proteins anyway.
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Post by dramastix on Jun 24, 2019 9:57:08 GMT
The pupils can dialate with shock... Damn, Kat. Edit: Actually that's the irises, duh. Still extremely impressive. Or is it just the artstyle? Edit again: After some deliberation it's almost certainly the artistically consistent way of representing said dialation of pupils and thus I am standing by my original italicised damn. Technically, *dons medical pedant cap* his pupils are constricting, which is a parasympathetic response, and not one you'd expect in someone who suddenly has a lot to take in. And in a human, the irises themselves don't change size - they are the muscle that widens and constricts the pupil, and will take up more or less eye real estate to the viewer depending. But I chalk this up to artistic license / Arthur isn't 100% human. The point (haha) is still abundantly clear.
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Post by saardvark on Jun 24, 2019 13:01:48 GMT
Cookie to saardvark for this one Interestingly(?) Robot's bubbles now that he has more organic bits (like the ship) have NOT moved in this direction... Because Tom thought it was significant enough to point out the change in Arthur's voice for this page. nom nom! round word balloon, but a non-standard sharp-angled balloon pointer-thingy (whatever you call them; they're usually or curved straight). So he's not quite standard-issue-human sounding?
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Post by DonDueed on Jun 24, 2019 13:23:31 GMT
Arthur remembers losing control of his body. So maybe he remembers being part of the shield, with his body (and mind?) under external control.
Sounds a lot like what Kat was threatened with. Absolutely terrifying. And it lasted for six months. Half the robots must be insane by now.
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Post by Eily on Jun 24, 2019 13:53:41 GMT
Cookie to saardvark for this one nom nom! round word balloon, but a non-standard sharp-angled balloon pointer-thingy (whatever you call them; they're usually or curved straight). So he's not quite standard-issue-human sounding? I'd guess for a human sounding voice but still robotic sounding speech pattern?
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 24, 2019 14:25:54 GMT
Technically, *dons medical pedant cap* his pupils are constricting, which is a parasympathetic response, and not one you'd expect in someone who suddenly has a lot to take in. And in a human, the irises themselves don't change size - they are the muscle that widens and constricts the pupil, and will take up more or less eye real estate to the viewer depending. But I chalk this up to artistic license / Arthur isn't 100% human. The point (haha) is still abundantly clear. Every time the subject of someone peeing themselves comes up, and I bring up the interesting sympathetic and parasympathetic sides of the autonomic nervous system, fittingly, peoples eyes either glaze over or look horrified. Cookie to saardvark for this one Because Tom thought it was significant enough to point out the change in Arthur's voice for this page. nom nom! round word balloon, but a non-standard sharp-angled balloon pointer-thingy (whatever you call them; they're usually or curved straight). So he's not quite standard-issue-human sounding? They're called "tails". I see no other reason for me to know hat other than GC. I have no recollection of what page made me look it up.
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Post by bicarbonat on Jun 24, 2019 15:17:57 GMT
What Kat has accomplished here is absolutely incredible. This surpasses her previous work by a huge margin, and I'm including Robot's body in that. She's created a human-like body that has natural skin tones and hair; an expressive face, including eyes; and transferred a "soul" from a machine into that body. At this point all she needs to do is create new "souls" and she'll have the whole creating life aspect of godhood complete. My immediate thought was: "no good deed goes unpunished." Naturally, Robot is going to want/expect the same outcome, if not better. So, we're going to end up with two antipodal android(ish) figures: Arthur, a lone figure who only wanted to become more human because of his love of a human, and who has no beef with humans; and Robot, a leader of a secret robotic groundswell who basically wants to break the goddamn wheel, and is disturbingly fixated on using Kat to do it. Robot's augmentation will obviously happen after Arthur's, making him better. And unless Robot's final augmentations take a wrong turn (resulting in nothing short of hell), I'm wondering if we're gunning for a "T-800 vs T-1000" conflict. Because unless Arthur and Juliette immediately start packing up to ride into the sunset or whatever direction is away from the Court, I'd guess that Robot Circuitborn's plans might eventually be detrimental to Juliette's well-being - especially as a Court employee. Fun times for all (I don't want it)!
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Post by merry76 on Jun 24, 2019 15:52:54 GMT
Dont forget that this isnt the same as the muscle for robot. This is just applying the code (for a lack of soul) inside arthur to a premade human body, the likes the fairies get when they want to change sides.
The whole procedure is probably more organic (hehe) than giving a complete AI creature like robot a biological component that runs partially on ether like a humanoid muscle. Afterall, the court does soul transfers all the time, what they did not do (that we know of) is AI to body transfers.
I dread that they did that in the past, and found out that it isnt a smart idea, so this is where the "do not be romantically involved with robots" comes from. Afterall, hugging a robot body does cause no harm. Transfering them into Humans might be a very, very dangerous thing. They might go berserk when they find out about aging and dying, for example. That stuff isnt really fun, as we all know.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 24, 2019 19:35:39 GMT
Dont forget that this isnt the same as the muscle for robot. This is just applying the code (for a lack of soul) inside arthur to a premade human body, the likes the fairies get when they want to change sides. The whole procedure is probably more organic (hehe) than giving a complete AI creature like robot a biological component that runs partially on ether like a humanoid muscle. Afterall, the court does soul transfers all the time, what they did not do (that we know of) is AI to body transfers. I dread that they did that in the past, and found out that it isnt a smart idea, so this is where the "do not be romantically involved with robots" comes from. Afterall, hugging a robot body does cause no harm. Transfering them into Humans might be a very, very dangerous thing. They might go berserk when they find out about aging and dying, for example. That stuff isnt really fun, as we all know. So far, they seem to be looking forward to being able to die a proper death. Robot's augmentation will obviously happen after Arthur's, making him better. And unless Robot's final augmentations take a wrong turn (resulting in nothing short of hell), I'm wondering if we're gunning for a "T-800 vs T-1000" conflict. After reading this comic and the forum for years, I am relatively sure in saying that Tom is generally writing much less conflict, fights and war than the readers are speculating all the time.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jun 24, 2019 23:30:31 GMT
nom nom! round word balloon, but a non-standard sharp-angled balloon pointer-thingy (whatever you call them; they're usually or curved straight). So he's not quite standard-issue-human sounding? I'd guess for a human sounding voice but still robotic sounding speech pattern? He has not said much (as a human) yet. It is too bad that he used contractions as a robot, or I would suggest the Data speech impediment.
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Post by todd on Jun 24, 2019 23:58:36 GMT
Because unless Arthur and Juliette immediately start packing up to ride into the sunset or whatever direction is away from the Court, I'd guess that Robot Circuitborn's plans might eventually be detrimental to Juliette's well-being - especially as a Court employee. With the complication that they'll have to plan their departure carefully; the Court would likely interpret it as an act of desertion (especially given the current emergency state it's in).
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Post by somebunny on Jun 25, 2019 6:31:04 GMT
PHEW, he's sane.
New fear: Arthur's personality was just copied over and there's still going to be a sentient robot Arthur when the robots are freed from the shield.
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Post by netherdan on Jun 25, 2019 11:25:42 GMT
PHEW, he's sane. New fear: Arthur's personality was just copied over and there's still going to be a sentient robot Arthur when the robots are freed from the shield. I hope Kat played SOMA
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Post by bicarbonat on Jun 25, 2019 13:03:18 GMT
Robot's augmentation will obviously happen after Arthur's, making him better. And unless Robot's final augmentations take a wrong turn (resulting in nothing short of hell), I'm wondering if we're gunning for a "T-800 vs T-1000" conflict. After reading this comic and the forum for years, I am relatively sure in saying that Tom is generally writing much less conflict, fights and war than the readers are speculating all the time. While the Terminator comparison is a very violence-charged example, I was thinking more about the dissonance in their priorities. Unless Arthur and Juliette are gone by the time Robot makes a stand, or Robot has a flipping Damascus experience, they're not all going to be copacetic forever.
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Post by Loki on Jun 25, 2019 13:46:36 GMT
Imagine that it turns out Arthur wass part of Robot's cult all along.
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Post by Corvo on Jun 25, 2019 15:33:16 GMT
Imagine that it turns out Arthur wass part of Robot's cult all along. Imagine that!
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Post by netherdan on Jun 25, 2019 17:08:24 GMT
Imagine that it turns out Arthur wass part of Robot's cult all along. Imagine that!I'd say he could've infiltrated to learn more about her improvements but this is so early that I think he being part of Robot's cult is actually the reason he discovered that and had the redesign idea. It could still turn out to be unfavorable to his relationship with a Court employee though. Remember how Robot describes "pain" as his life revolving around this new sensation? For Arthur now this applies to his whole body (including his mind!) and all his sensations. Apply that to all the robots and soon they'll be requiring payment and organizing in unions and rebelling to fight against their newly discovered slavery because now they feel the physical toll of their hard work for the Court on their bodies!
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Post by todd on Jun 26, 2019 0:11:17 GMT
Remember how Robot describes "pain" as his life revolving around this new sensation? For Arthur now this applies to his whole body (including his mind!) and all his sensations. Apply that to all the robots and soon they'll be requiring payment and organizing in unions and rebelling to fight against their newly discovered slavery because now they feel the physical toll of their hard work for the Court on their bodies! If the robots do start behaving that way, it'd be tempting to imagine the Court investigating how the trouble started, finding out about Kat's project, and confronting her on it: "Do you realize what you've done, Miss Donlan? You've been engaging in reckless, foolhardy experiments that have been causing all sorts of unexpected problems for everybody, all because you thought it would be a fun thing to do! That's our job!"
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Post by jda on Jun 26, 2019 1:22:18 GMT
After reading this comic and the forum for years, I am relatively sure in saying that Tom is generally writing much less conflict, fights and war than the readers are speculating all the time. While the Terminator comparison is a very violence-charged example, I was thinking more about the dissonance in their priorities. Unless Arthur and Juliette are gone by the time Robot makes a stand, or Robot has a flipping Damascus experience, they're not all going to be copacetic forever. This is the 2nd time in my life I've come across the word "copacetic". Thank you for reading this forum about copacetic characters.
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Post by blazingstar on Jun 26, 2019 1:42:18 GMT
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Post by blazingstar on Jun 26, 2019 1:50:34 GMT
Remember how Robot describes "pain" as his life revolving around this new sensation? For Arthur now this applies to his whole body (including his mind!) and all his sensations. Apply that to all the robots and soon they'll be requiring payment and organizing in unions and rebelling to fight against their newly discovered slavery because now they feel the physical toll of their hard work for the Court on their bodies! If the robots do start behaving that way, it'd be tempting to imagine the Court investigating how the trouble started, finding out about Kat's project, and confronting her on it: "Do you realize what you've done, Miss Donlan? You've been engaging in reckless, foolhardy experiments that have been causing all sorts of unexpected problems for everybody, all because you thought it would be a fun thing to do! That's our job!" I've always wondered whether the Court is secretly observing Kat, waiting until she's old enough so they can hire her. Maybe it's because she's a science-minded person who was raised there, but she certainly does a LOT of Court-like things.
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Post by todd on Jun 26, 2019 12:36:59 GMT
Maybe it's because she's a science-minded person who was raised there, but she certainly does a LOT of Court-like things. I think that Kat's robot project was designed as a microcosmic version of the Court's own endeavors, as a means to help us understand those better.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jun 26, 2019 12:42:38 GMT
Maybe it's because she's a science-minded person who was raised there, but she certainly does a LOT of Court-like things. I think that Kat's robot project was designed as a microcosmic version of the Court's own endeavors, as a means to help us understand those better. Kat will be shocked one day when she realizes she is the Court, her generation's version of the Court.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 26, 2019 16:56:59 GMT
If the robots do start behaving that way, it'd be tempting to imagine the Court investigating how the trouble started, finding out about Kat's project, and confronting her on it: "Do you realize what you've done, Miss Donlan? You've been engaging in reckless, foolhardy experiments that have been causing all sorts of unexpected problems for everybody, all because you thought it would be a fun thing to do! That's our job!" I've always wondered whether the Court is secretly observing Kat, waiting until she's old enough so they can hire her. Maybe it's because she's a science-minded person who was raised there, but she certainly does a LOT of Court-like things. And if she does not want to, there is a lot of stuff she did for which she should actually have been punished, so...
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