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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 10, 2019 6:59:22 GMT
Sure, just click "accept" without reading the boilerplate. What could possibly go wrong? And yep comic's early again. |
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Post by madjack on Jun 10, 2019 7:01:01 GMT
I physically cringed.
Now both Annie and Kat might well have guns to their heads.
I wonder if kids can legally sign etheric contracts?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 10, 2019 7:06:57 GMT
I wonder if kids can legally sign etheric contracts? Going by what happened with Aly, yes. I think it's pretty clear that this sort of "law" in the Gunnerverse isn't about justice or protecting rights, it's about codified power dynamics. |
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Post by philman on Jun 10, 2019 7:07:45 GMT
I physically cringed. Now both Annie and Kat might well have guns to their heads. I wonder if kids can legally sign etheric contracts? After what happened with Mort and the ROTD, I doubt that etheric beings care much for legal age limits on contracts. |
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Post by basser on Jun 10, 2019 7:09:04 GMT
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Post by somebunny on Jun 10, 2019 7:15:07 GMT
I think this is the first time Kat has stated that she's prepared to humanize all willing robots, and not just the robots she's friends with.
Truly, the Angel has come.
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Post by madjack on Jun 10, 2019 7:18:15 GMT
Going by what happened with Aly, yes. I think it's pretty clear that this sort of "law" in the Gunnerverse isn't about justice or protecting rights, it's about codified power dynamics. Well Aly did have parental consent.  Your second point is taken though. After what happened with Mort and the ROTD, I doubt that etheric beings care much for legal age limits on contracts. Mort was dead though, but fair point. |
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Post by gpvos on Jun 10, 2019 7:22:30 GMT
About three minutes early. That server clock is really adrift.
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Post by shadow3 on Jun 10, 2019 8:23:11 GMT
Careful, Kat. The fine print is how they get you.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 10, 2019 9:44:48 GMT
Well, there's no way this will be brought up again. Let's happily move on!
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Post by Corvo on Jun 10, 2019 11:13:23 GMT
Kat: Um, sure. The good thing about accepting contracts is that you never need to read it first, after all. I mean, what could possibly go wrong, right?! It's not like they are binding my soul or anything. And I'm sure I'll be able to back out of it anytime.
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Post by mordekai on Jun 10, 2019 11:15:06 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
DON'T.SIGN.A.SUPERNATURAL.CONTRACT.WITHOUT.READING.THE.TERMS.FIIIIIIIIRST!!!
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SMART, KAT!!!
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Post by bicarbonat on Jun 10, 2019 11:34:37 GMT
Nobody reads the EULA, and one day it'll come for us all! [shakes stick]
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Post by coastal on Jun 10, 2019 12:02:00 GMT
Careful, Kat. The fine print is how they get you. EVERY time. I groaned out loud when I saw this page. |
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Post by netherdan on Jun 10, 2019 12:42:01 GMT
Wait, by "the same process" do they mean using the arrow?
Are they allowing her to use the arrow for this purpose?
Does the contract bind her to not use it to force contracts on other living beings than the soulless bodies she herself creates?
We shall never know, for the Angel didn't read it. And it was worth it!
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Post by tlo on Jun 10, 2019 13:04:37 GMT
i'd like to feel like the terms and conditions thing is just a strip gag rather than something that will come back to bite her
also, couldn't help but notice that clippy tossed the book to courtnie rather than frannie.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 10, 2019 13:15:51 GMT
also, couldn't help but notice that clippy tossed the book to courtnie rather than frannie. Not sure if there's any significance to Courtnie getting the book instead of Fannie, but I figure he could have produced more than one of those things if he really wanted to... Maybe only one book because only one contract modified, but handing it out now is working as a bit of a diversion for those people who might try to warn Kat. |
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Post by keef on Jun 10, 2019 14:09:10 GMT
If this is a contract of ownership she is signing, who is she signing it for (accept for herself obviously), and who is going to own who?
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Post by Aura on Jun 10, 2019 14:17:21 GMT
You don't have the read it Kat, but at least ask what's in it for goodness sake!!
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Post by wynne on Jun 10, 2019 14:25:12 GMT
Kat: Um, sure. The good thing about accepting contracts is that you never need to read it first, after all. I mean, what could possibly go wrong, right?! It's not like they are binding my soul or anything. And I'm sure I'll be able to back out of it anytime. If changing a contract is this easy maybe it *won't* come back to bite her in the ass? |
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Post by tustin2121 on Jun 10, 2019 14:43:59 GMT
I never read End User License Agreements. They're too long and don't mean much anyway.
On the other hand, if it's terms and conditions for something where I'm creating something (like, for example, the license for uploading to an app store), I quite thoroughly skim those for stupid things and any gotchas. Kat really should know better...
Also, it being an "accept" button instead of a signature line is really off-putting in a "you've thrown me out of the suspension of disbelief" kind of way...
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Post by bedinsis on Jun 10, 2019 15:03:21 GMT
The only time I've read EULA beforehand was when I was signing up for a payment service/banking service, under the reasoning that if they are to handle my money I want to know what I sign up for. Regarding this page: I am reminded of a comment from a reader from back when Kat transferred her ownership of Rey back to Annie: Honestly this is so obviously a blatantly terrible idea that I bet it's going to go off completely without a hitch. |
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 10, 2019 15:21:17 GMT
Creators always need to read their contracts!!! This is how syndicates get you.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 10, 2019 15:43:28 GMT
The only time I've read EULA beforehand was when I was signing up for a payment service/banking service, under the reasoning that if they are to handle my money I want to know what I sign up for. Fun fact not many people know: The instant you put money into a deposit account it is no longer yours. That money is their asset and you are a creditor, the balance of your account is a liability of the institution. |
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Post by hp on Jun 10, 2019 15:44:16 GMT
Nothing ominous at all about cliffhanging that button clicking until the next page |
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Post by bedinsis on Jun 10, 2019 16:02:26 GMT
The only time I've read EULA beforehand was when I was signing up for a payment service/banking service, under the reasoning that if they are to handle my money I want to know what I sign up for. Fun fact not many people know: The instant you put money into a deposit account it is no longer yours. That money is their asset and you are a creditor, the balance of your account is a liability of the institution. Quotation marks around the word "fun" required. If anyone cares to know, it was an upstart streaming service that required an account at a specified third party banking service. A service which eventually was usable at the university I eventually went to for purchasing print-outs, so I eventually used up the money. Also, when I read through the EULA I discovered that they actually had made a mistake in it, which they remedied once I contacted them. So not even those providing EULAs always read them through. On topic: I'm with tustin2121 in that I would've preferred Kat to sign the paper instead of just pressing a button. This page has been too... computery. I realize that they are in essence sysadmins and conveying their function as such by borrowing appearances from the world of computers makes sense for making the reader understand their roles. That being said, providing a quickstart guide and a button for accepting contracts takes it too far out of the realm of mythology for my liking. |
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Post by DonDueed on Jun 10, 2019 16:45:46 GMT
If that's the quickstart guide, I'd hate to see the full manual.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jun 10, 2019 16:48:15 GMT
i'd like to feel like the terms and conditions thing is just a strip gag rather than something that will come back to bite her also, couldn't help but notice that clippy tossed the book to courtnie rather than frannie. The trouble is, we already had the throwaway strip gag with the "Quick Start Guide." I suppose there might be some interesting tidbits of information in there, and maybe Rey now comes equipped with a scroll-down menu and USB port. ("No, not there either." "Sorry.") Admittedly, nobody ever reads EULAs and I'm sure Yahoo now has the right to recruit me into its private army. But it seems especially important to read the fine print when it involves robot souls and the supernatural realm. EDIT: Robot Souls and the Supernatural Realm are currently on their 15-city North American tour. |
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Post by manabi on Jun 10, 2019 16:58:27 GMT
also, couldn't help but notice that clippy tossed the book to courtnie rather than frannie. If you go back a few pages to #2157, you can see that Clippy's closer to Courtnie then Frannie, that's probably why. Also, it being an "accept" button instead of a signature line is really off-putting in a "you've thrown me out of the suspension of disbelief" kind of way... Since this is all in the ether, even though Annie's and Kats perceptions of it are the same this time, it's probably the two of them registering the contract as a computery yes/no thing. Basically it's their human perceptions interpreting what they're seeing into human norms. It makes sense that at their age that's the kind of contract they're most familiar with. |
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Post by csj on Jun 10, 2019 17:16:20 GMT
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Your second point is taken though.
