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Post by arf on Jun 3, 2019 7:03:53 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 3, 2019 7:06:11 GMT
I suppose it makes sense for the holder of the contract to have to agree.
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Post by gpvos on Jun 3, 2019 7:07:05 GMT
The Court is not going to like this...
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Post by madjack on Jun 3, 2019 7:14:25 GMT
Well, Lucky for the Court they've got a really good mediator on hand when it comes to negotiating with etherics. If they need to change the robot contract on their end, that is.
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Post by shadow3 on Jun 3, 2019 7:34:53 GMT
This development may be what makes it possible for Reynardine to regain his original body and somehow become the one beast deity that can directly oppose Loup.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jun 3, 2019 7:37:29 GMT
Aaaah, I understand the problem now, I think. As the first "contract" was being filtered through the arrow, it left an imprint. By syphoning the second contract through the same arrow, the new contract, which should've been blank, was already partially filled in.
But on the other hand, I'm now starting to partially feel as if this is some kind of deeper ruse to unbound Rey, and return/dognap him to the forest...
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Post by philman on Jun 3, 2019 7:41:50 GMT
Aaaah, I understand the problem now, I think. As the first "contract" was being filtered through the arrow, it left an imprint. By syphoning the second contract through the same arrow, the new contract, which should've been blank, was already partially filled in. But on the other hand, I'm now starting to partially feel as if this is some kind of deeper ruse to unbound Rey, and return/dognap him to the forest... Freeing Renard, giving life to Arthur, all at once, seems a nice thing for a new god to do. I don't think this is a forest plot, but then again, this does seem all too easy, something seems suspicious here, and there must be a catch somewhere. If Loup offers Renard something big, then Annie can no longer make him refuse. |
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Post by basser on Jun 3, 2019 8:58:44 GMT
Aw dang, I was sort of looking forward to finding out how the ether police planned to imprison a hyper-dimensional retrocausal robot god.
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Post by machiavelli33 on Jun 3, 2019 9:01:44 GMT
Its quickly going from Forest Annie/Court Annie to Annie: Wonder Twins.
Also: bishie-profile Rey.
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Post by saardvark on Jun 3, 2019 9:47:28 GMT
Aaaah, I understand the problem now, I think. As the first "contract" was being filtered through the arrow, it left an imprint. By syphoning the second contract through the same arrow, the new contract, which should've been blank, was already partially filled in. yeah, thats what Ive been saying - its like the arrow is a contract sponge - retaining some of the residual previous contract that passed thru it ([2155 and wild spec]), or that Kat's reuse/copy of the base contract (on Rey) left a residue that was then potentially transferred to Arthur (2155]. |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jun 3, 2019 10:05:32 GMT
The two Annies are starting to act a lot more identically now. It's a pretty noticeable contrast compared to Loup's Trick.
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Post by Eily on Jun 3, 2019 11:40:18 GMT
This development may be what makes it possible for Reynardine to regain his original body and somehow become the one beast deity that can directly oppose Loup. Or jump straight into Loup's body, I don't think Rey has any other power that would be useful against the rest of Coyote's powers (minus whatever the tooth, bone and water are). Coyote wanted Rey to have his powers, so it might just be his plan. |
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Post by todd on Jun 3, 2019 12:41:14 GMT
My thoughts exactly. I don't think that the Court would be pleased once they learn about this (from their perspective, Annie's ownership of Reynardine was the only thing that kept him from going on a body-stealing rampage) - all the more so since they'd have little hope of duplicating the circumstances that allowed someone to own him and thus prevent him from possessing and thereby killing someone else without permission. (Overlooking the fact that Rey's genuinely remorseful about his past acts - and that this mess wouldn't have happened in the first place if they hadn't gotten Surma to manipulate him.) |
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Post by todd on Jun 3, 2019 12:47:55 GMT
This development may be what makes it possible for Reynardine to regain his original body and somehow become the one beast deity that can directly oppose Loup. Or jump straight into Loup's body I still think that Annie wants a solution that won't involve Loup's death (which Rey possessing him would mean) - that she still wants to just get him back to normal as Ysengrin again. (And the Court would not look upon that as an improvement; they fear and distrust Reynardine, and would see that development as a continuing threat from a powerful etheric being - might even worry that Rey would seek revenge upon the Court for all those years of imprisonment. The solution to the Loup problem they'd want would be one that would leave no one in Loup's place, no successor to threaten them with etheric powers and the might of the forest.) |
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Post by Eily on Jun 3, 2019 12:50:08 GMT
Would the Court have any way to find out except for the mark? If so, a fake mark might do, and it wouldn't be surprising if the two Annies, Kat and Rey found a way to make one that is not visible in Renard's imp-ish form.
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Post by Eily on Jun 3, 2019 13:03:50 GMT
Or jump straight into Loup's body I still think that Annie wants a solution that won't involve Loup's death (which Rey possessing him would mean) - that she still wants to just get him back to normal as Ysengrin again. (And the Court would not look upon that as an improvement; they fear and distrust Reynardine, and would see that development as a continuing threat from a powerful etheric being - might even worry that Rey would seek revenge upon the Court for all those years of imprisonment. The solution to the Loup problem they'd want would be one that would leave no one in Loup's place, no successor to threaten them with with etheric powers and the might of the forest.) I'm sure Annie wouldn't want a solution that involves Ysengrin's death. But the fact that it's a bad solution doesn't mean it's not the best one, or even just the only one. And I'm sure Annie would actually prefer having Rey in Coyote's place, than the Court's prefered no one. And technically Rey already had the power to defeat Loup by entering his body (at least I think), he just needed Annie's order to do so. But what today's page changes, is that Renard can decide to do it on his own, regardless of what Annies want. And it wouldn't necessarily mean death for Ysengrin, the tooth might be used to carve him out. Or the memory that Coyote kept in the lake might not be his. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 3, 2019 13:18:51 GMT
It's nice to see the Carver Twins act like... twins. Probably, they'll each develop their own individual quirks (not just haircuts), like real sisters. If Kat every came up with a way to recombine them, it would be an interesting dilemma, if only one Annie wanted to. They both might just give a hard pass.
Free Rey and Living Arthur coming soon. Dramatic hijinks sure to ensue.
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Post by phantaskippy on Jun 3, 2019 13:21:34 GMT
This seems like one of those moments they have been warned about.
Just because Reynardine is now their friend, doesn't mean he isn't highly dangerous and prone to solving problems in ways they wouldn't appreciate.
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Post by philman on Jun 3, 2019 13:33:10 GMT
This seems like one of those moments they have been warned about. Just because Reynardine is now their friend, doesn't mean he isn't highly dangerous and prone to solving problems in ways they wouldn't appreciate. I'm wondering which character we have come to know that Renard will be forced to possess the body of, and therefore kill. It seems too much for this to not be used somewhere. My money is on the rabbit-boy we have been following. I am not sure what element he brings to the plot yet, and Renard killing a child, let alone a one with friends in the forest, would do a lot to fracture an uneasy peace. |
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Post by madjack on Jun 3, 2019 13:43:37 GMT
This seems like one of those moments they have been warned about. Just because Reynardine is now their friend, doesn't mean he isn't highly dangerous and prone to solving problems in ways they wouldn't appreciate. Yeah I'm reading a lot of Loup-like arrogance in that last panel, like Rey's feeling a bit too secure in himself. He also did beat Sivo in a fight, although we don't have any real details of that. It'd be easy to see Annie making the Ys mistake all over again, wanting to see the best in people until she's reminded that she hasn't seen all there is of them. |
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Post by avurai on Jun 3, 2019 14:16:04 GMT
This all feels like a very stupid idea agreed upon by people who forgot that the only reason Renard is allowed to not be locked up in a warehouse with metal bars ramming through his hands is because he’s owned by a person instead.
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Post by saardvark on Jun 3, 2019 14:51:33 GMT
But if ownership of Rey goes to Arthur, can Rey in fact leave? Or have freedom to do as he wants? It would be up to Arthur...
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Post by tustin2121 on Jun 3, 2019 15:02:20 GMT
Aw dang, I was sort of looking forward to finding out how the ether police planned to imprison a hyper-dimensional retrocausal robot god. Given that the ether is full of these hyper-dimensional retrocausal gods, I don't think they'd have too much trouble with it. |
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Post by coastal on Jun 3, 2019 15:11:23 GMT
I'm not sure what the rest of y'all are thinking, but I, for one, am looking forward to seeing Renard Unchained. I wonder if he'll try to get his original body back.
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Post by zaferion on Jun 3, 2019 16:14:02 GMT
Aw, this page made me feel warm and fuzzy inside. I love Renard. Don't understand why he's in his imp form, though. I'd feel more assured about his promise not to leave if he was in his typical majestic, mentor-ly wolf form, but I'm probably reading into it too much.
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Post by tustin2121 on Jun 3, 2019 16:14:35 GMT
I'm not sure what the rest of y'all are thinking, but I, for one, am looking forward to seeing Renard Unchained. I wonder if he'll try to get his original body back. Personally, I'd miss the limited shape-shifting abilities that he has with the toy. Not to mention he'd have to deal with the whole "having lungs" thing again. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 3, 2019 16:35:23 GMT
Well, it was about time this slavery contract finally ended. My thoughts exactly. I don't think that the Court would be pleased once they learn about this (from their perspective, Annie's ownership of Reynardine was the only thing that kept him from going on a body-stealing rampage) - all the more so since they'd have little hope of duplicating the circumstances that allowed someone to own him and thus prevent him from possessing and thereby killing someone else without permission. (Overlooking the fact that Rey's genuinely remorseful about his past acts - and that this mess wouldn't have happened in the first place if they hadn't gotten Surma to manipulate him.) How would the Court learn about it, as long as Renard does not change bodies? This seems like one of those moments they have been warned about. Just because Reynardine is now their friend, doesn't mean he isn't highly dangerous and prone to solving problems in ways they wouldn't appreciate. I'm wondering which character we have come to know that Renard will be forced to possess the body of, and therefore kill. It seems too much for this to not be used somewhere. My money is on the rabbit-boy we have been following. I am not sure what element he brings to the plot yet, and Renard killing a child, let alone a one with friends in the forest, would do a lot to fracture an uneasy peace. His own. The one we have been explicitly been shown to lie preserved in the Forest, so many chapters ago. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jun 3, 2019 17:31:56 GMT
I suppose the question is, has Rey gained DisneyTM levels of character development, i.e. he has discovered the Magic of Friendship and doesn't need to be a monster. *group hug with Rey and Annies!* Or not. *group hug with Rey and.. hey wait, there's two of you fire-hair girls now; if something happens to one, there's a spare* Reynnie then catches Loup by surprise.
Or Rey goes off on his own to find his old body. Or something.
I like option one better, but the second option has interesting story possibilities.
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Post by todd on Jun 4, 2019 0:17:54 GMT
I'm wondering which character we have come to know that Renard will be forced to possess the body of, and therefore kill. It seems too much for this to not be used somewhere. My money is on the rabbit-boy we have been following. I am not sure what element he brings to the plot yet, and Renard killing a child, let alone a one with friends in the forest, would do a lot to fracture an uneasy peace. If Reynardine *does* indeed possess and kill someone (though, given his character development, I doubt that will happen), it'll certainly make him far less on close terms with Annie and Kat - or should. Kat, in particular, not only because Rey's murdered again, but also because she'll have to live with the fact that "The person whom Rey killed would still be alive if I hadn't used that arrow to return him to Annie, all because of my curiosity." |
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Post by eliakon on Jun 4, 2019 0:22:44 GMT
Why does he have to leave?
Annie doesn't have a contract on Renard. She has the contract on the *toy*. The only reason she would have to agree that I can see is if she is giving up the toy... possibly to Renard to keep as his new body unless and until he gets his old body back from Loup.
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