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Post by Futurismo on May 20, 2019 7:05:03 GMT
Reverse engineering a programming language is hard; sometimes you don't even know what you're doing. |
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Post by madjack on May 20, 2019 7:08:31 GMT
This can't be more than the second or third time we've seen on-panel that Kat has made a mistake.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 20, 2019 7:10:53 GMT
Most important thing in today's comic: "new creature" confirmed.
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Post by Futurismo on May 20, 2019 7:13:02 GMT
This can't be more than the second or third time we've seen on-panel that Kat has made a mistake. Yeah, Kat is really good at subverting the usual expectation of a sci-fi genius making a mistake. In her defense, there's a lot of etheric craziness that she couldn't have accounted for. On the bright side, Saslamel seems to have an idea of what's going on since he correctly deduced that Kat did something using the Arrow. |
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Post by jda on May 20, 2019 7:13:52 GMT
I don't recall how many cookies should be handled, but get them if you deserve them!
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Post by arf on May 20, 2019 7:20:29 GMT
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Post by madjack on May 20, 2019 7:28:13 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 20, 2019 7:32:10 GMT
This can't be more than the second or third time we've seen on-panel that Kat has made a mistake. Yeah, Kat is really good at subverting the usual expectation of a sci-fi genius making a mistake. In her defense, there's a lot of etheric craziness that she couldn't have accounted for. On the bright side, Saslamel seems to have an idea of what's going on since he correctly deduced that Kat did something using the Arrow. There's several layers of that. Diego's arrow was designed for a specific one-use purpose but actually had to function in at least three modes, safe (in proximity to nearby conspirators before firing and in direct contact with Steadman as he shot it), hitting the target and producing the main effect, and then at rest keeping the artificially-created haunting situation stable; Kat probably understands parts of the hardware very well and is pretty sure she knows how the rest operates (else she wouldn't be using it) but something that looks straightforward can have more than one use. Also I'd guess Diego tweaked some clumps of his standard code at a level that Kat wouldn't normally need to bother checking, while leaving the bulk of it boringly standard. |
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Post by saardvark on May 20, 2019 7:37:11 GMT
hmmm. Kat used the arrow in a process to map the etheric exchange of ownership of Rey from herself back to Annie - to copy the etheric "program" of how to do that. That's what she thought was happening anyway... Now she was trying to use the same "program" to transfer the Court's control of Arthur to himself. But the etheric "program" is only valid for a single object - ownership of Rey. It cant be reused in the abstract between any two things. So instead of shifting control of Arthur to himself, the attempted reuse of the progrem here (I think!) was about to default back to Rey and switch control of him to the "new creature" Arthur. Oops!
This might mean Arthur will be stuck staying under Court control, unless Kat can figure a work-around....
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Post by madjack on May 20, 2019 7:39:01 GMT
This might mean Arthur will be stuck staying under Court control, unless Kat can figure a work-around.... Well there is the chapter title... |
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Post by gpvos on May 20, 2019 7:55:01 GMT
This is going to be an interesting debugging session...
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Post by Elysium on May 20, 2019 8:04:33 GMT
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Post by hnau on May 20, 2019 8:08:16 GMT
Contention on the etheric ownership contract bus...
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Post by zbeeblebrox on May 20, 2019 8:24:00 GMT
This is why it's important to correctly define your pointers.
If there's one thing to appreciate about the etheric world, its error logging is...verbose.
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Post by madjack on May 20, 2019 8:28:35 GMT
I threw this in wildspec too but.. Pointers. Arrow.
That's how it breaks the ether.
The thing is basically the physical embodiment of GOTO.
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Post by arf on May 20, 2019 9:00:08 GMT
Are the Annies up for a bit of etheric pair programming?
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Post by foresterr on May 20, 2019 9:38:32 GMT
I quite enjoy how helpful and competent both the Arbiter and Clippy seem to be so far. None of this "we are the authorities and you are going to jail for this" schtick, they'll probably just help Kat hash out a proper, foolproof contract (whatever the intended effect actually is) and that will be that. Although perhaps there are some administrative fees or a minor fine of an unknown nature to be paid, we'll see. The thing is basically the physical embodiment of GOTO. Ah, so that's why the conspirators conspired to hide all evidence of this and never speak of it again. They were ashamed of themselves. Makes perfect sense. |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 20, 2019 9:52:38 GMT
Yeah, I'm also happily surprised they're all like "woops, you made a slip-up, this is what you're trying to do, that can't be right!". I'm just afraid the other shoe is still going to drop when they explain WHAT it is they want, and the arbiter just says "REQUEST DENIED, oh and btw, you know that entire persona you were trying to transfer? It's stuck in limbo now forever."
Then again, that would be WAY ooc for Tom to pull on us, me thinks...
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Post by Zox Tomana on May 20, 2019 12:35:10 GMT
Cookies to the folks who were calling that Kat's use of data from the transfer of Annie's contract with Rey would come up!
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Post by atteSmythe on May 20, 2019 13:32:19 GMT
Etheric arrows considered harmful
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Post by netherdan on May 20, 2019 14:13:26 GMT
Firstly: cookie party! Secondly: I'm very amused by the level of programming knowledge of this board. And Thirdly: Although perhaps there are some administrative fees or a minor fine of an unknown nature to be paid, we'll see. I hereby predict that in order to grant the new creature "free will" Kat will have to waive her humanity and accept her divinity. You can probably "create" life, mind, personality, individuality, "make them flesh" and whatnot but the last step for a full fledged creature is free will, and you can only create full fledged beings if you're a registered Divine Being™ at the Godly Union. Now here's something I'd very much like to ask Tom: - Do all the gods in the Gunnerverse know they're inside a webcomic or just some of them? I know Coyote does and aside from maybe Loup he's the only known god so far |
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Post by saardvark on May 20, 2019 14:46:01 GMT
Firstly: cookie party! Secondly: I'm very amused by the level of programming knowledge of this board. And Thirdly: I hereby predict that in order to grant the new creature "free will" Kat will have to waive her humanity and accept her divinity. Firstly: nom nom nom! Secondly: lots of nerds of various types here... the richness and multi-layered complexity of GC attracts nerdy analysis like bears to honey! Thirdly: she may not have to waive her humanity, but accepting her share of divinity makes sense. It would continue the nice parallelism of Annie and Kat's evolution - Annie had to accept her psychopomp role, and now Kat may have to accept her godhood - both regretfully. |
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Post by netherdan on May 20, 2019 14:54:49 GMT
Firstly: nom nom nom! Secondly: lots of nerds of various types here... the richness and multi-layered complexity of GC attracts nerdy analysis like bears to honey! Thirdly: she may not have to waive her humanity, but accepting her share of divinity makes sense. It would continue the nice parallelism of Annie and Kat's evolution - Annie had to accept her psychopomp role, and now Kat may have to accept her godhood - both regretfully. |
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Post by haspen on May 20, 2019 14:58:08 GMT
Why did you have to link the saddest chapter?? I was having such good afternoon ;_; |
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Post by tustin2121 on May 20, 2019 15:37:02 GMT
So... does that mean that everyone who called that the transfer process would go off without a hitch and got cookies for it... now have to return their cookies...? Maybe we can avoid the whole "what if I ate them already?" line of questions by just saying these people now have to bake some new cookies to put back in the cookie pool... |
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Post by tustin2121 on May 20, 2019 15:44:34 GMT
And Thirdly: I hereby predict that in order to grant the new creature "free will" Kat will have to waive her humanity and accept her divinity. Thirdly: she may not have to waive her humanity, but accepting her share of divinity makes sense. It would continue the nice parallelism of Annie and Kat's evolution - Annie had to accept her psychopomp role, and now Kat may have to accept her godhood - both regretfully. This is reminding me of a D&D campaign, where the characters at the end of the campaign are basically destined to ascend to godhood in some way. But it still feels like we're at level 17 or so and not 20 quite yet, so I don't know that she'll just be given godhood so soon. That's not to say this won't be a precursor to godhood. Secondly: I'm very amused by the level of programming knowledge of this board. Secondly: lots of nerds of various types here... the richness and multi-layered complexity of GC attracts nerdy analysis like bears to honey! Hi, I'm adding D&D to the nerd pile today.  |
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Post by DonDueed on May 20, 2019 15:52:46 GMT
So... does that mean that everyone who called that the transfer process would go off without a hitch and got cookies for it... now have to return their cookies...? Maybe we can avoid the whole "what if I ate them already?" line of questions by just saying these people now have to bake some new cookies to put back in the cookie pool... *wants to take a dip in the cookie pool* |
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Post by mturtle7 on May 20, 2019 17:41:45 GMT
I came here for the nerdy programming jokes and I was not disappointed.
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Post by rosesonthewall on May 20, 2019 18:13:31 GMT
I'm driven out of lurking to say that I, too, appreciate the computing jokes
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Post by philistine21 on May 20, 2019 20:15:33 GMT
What's the Etheric Science version of StackOverflow?
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