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Post by dramastix on May 17, 2019 7:03:03 GMT
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Post by wombat on May 17, 2019 7:04:30 GMT
I don't know what I expected, but this is certainly different than whatever I was in the verge of imagining.
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Post by madjack on May 17, 2019 7:05:20 GMT
I think he means 'shifted back in the queue'. It's kinda funny that the chaotic whirlpool of humankind's dreams still always about the paperwork.
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Post by dramastix on May 17, 2019 7:07:21 GMT
But really. I'm so confused. Where do Annies and Rey even fit into this? Does this mean the ascension of Kat into Angelhood is still chapters away? Does this mean Annie can't be a Psychopomp and hold ownership over Rey? SO MANY QUESTIONS.
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Post by ruthie on May 17, 2019 7:13:23 GMT
I thought 'shifted' meant the ownership of Rey had shifted to Kat - and they never managed to successfully swap it back to Annie. Twist???
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Post by george on May 17, 2019 7:14:48 GMT
I'm more curious how they haven't already breached the Rey/Annie contract
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Post by dramastix on May 17, 2019 7:18:15 GMT
I thought 'shifted' meant the ownership of Rey had shifted to Kat - and they never managed to successfully swap it back to Annie. Twist??? Oh! Maybe by using her computer as the arbiter, she screwed up the process... But then why did the symbol on his head change back? And still doesn't explain why creating life would breach that contract. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2019 7:31:03 GMT
Maybe the Renard/Antimony paperwork appearing was the result of jumping to a conclusion because Renard displays Antimony's symbol in plain sight; if what they did/how they did it caused a breach of ownership during the transfer then it should have happened already. I think they're probably here because of Art. There's a slew of potential owners of his body. [edit] I think the current business has little or nothing to do with Renard and Antimonies. I assume that the people who have a claim on Art's bod will have to renounce it. After that he should be his own person. [/edit]
Also: Saslamel means something in Galatian, but also something in Turkish. And there's a character in Soul Caliber called Zasalamel.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 17, 2019 7:31:12 GMT
Wait, I'm also (happily) confused? The Annies are just 'there' for the festivities, what do they have to do with the transferral of Arthur to his new body that triggered this arbiter to arrive? Maybe he couldn't show himself until they pierced the veil between the physical realm and the Aether?
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Post by zbeeblebrox on May 17, 2019 7:33:04 GMT
Wait...what was it about moving roboboyfriend's mind into his new body which caused a potential dispute with Annie's ownership of Rey?
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Post by MarineMonarch on May 17, 2019 7:34:16 GMT
Hmm, this is unexpected. Why would Arthur's transformation cause a breach of Annie's contract with Rey?
Well we know that Kat scanned the transfer process when she passed ownership back to Annie. Perhaps the issue is that some of the data is being reused for the brain transfer progress, which constitutes a break of the etheric contract? They did say it was single-use.
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Post by csj on May 17, 2019 7:49:25 GMT
"It looks like you're trying to create a fully fledged living being..." It looks like you're about to get half a cookie |
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Post by foresterr on May 17, 2019 7:52:36 GMT
Oh, so the contract is like some kind of a cryptographic signature, and Kat tried to just copy the one involved in Annie and Reynardine relationship, file off the serial numbers, replace some variables and slap it on Juliette and Arthur. Or, actually, on Arthur and Arthur. Well looks like the serial numbers were deeper than she expected. Or she didn't even realize they are there. I guess despite all her talents, cracking DRM is not her main forte  As for "shifted" I guess it's just that they are the same person, forked (in this case through something akin to time travel cloning, hence shifted - in time). Apparently in this legal landscape this means they are the same person with the same rights (at least the rights acquired pre-split). Sensible, if headache inducing! |
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Post by madjack on May 17, 2019 7:57:24 GMT
Perhaps the robots have a pre-existing contract with the Court that's about to be broken?
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Post by zaratustra on May 17, 2019 8:09:26 GMT
Theory 1: If Kat becomes a proto-goddess, her lab becomes some sort of nexus and everything in it would "belong" to her in some sense
Theory 2: Arthur is about to explode and Rey's ownership is gonna revert to the psychopomps
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Post by basser on May 17, 2019 8:45:42 GMT
Yeah they defs made a soul then cause Kat used the Renard transfer thing to help make her computer do wizard stuff and it hasn't been a problem before. Guessing if the contract breach hadn't happened (ie they allowed multi-use) then Kat would end up with magical ownership control over any robots she ensouls this way, effectively making her a god. So that's fun.
Also maybe it's because I've been doing quantum stuff all day but "shifted" makes me think of Annie as a superposition between two eigenstates with differing phase factors. Presumably if you observe her she collapses into either Forest or Court Annie with some non-zero probability of Fire Annie given sufficient external driving force.
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Post by agasa on May 17, 2019 9:00:45 GMT
I thought 'shifted' meant the ownership of Rey had shifted to Kat - and they never managed to successfully swap it back to Annie. Twist??? Now this makes sense. |
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Post by faiiry on May 17, 2019 9:34:22 GMT
I love this lil blue guy and his lil clipboard.
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Post by gpvos on May 17, 2019 9:46:26 GMT
When someone starts spouting legalese and then says they're "here to help", be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Post by MarineMonarch on May 17, 2019 9:55:51 GMT
Real talk, I do love that after such a dramatic entrance, these two ended up being Like, etheric lawyers.
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Post by Zox Tomana on May 17, 2019 11:23:39 GMT
Interesting that the language of the arbiter of contracts speaks something that looks like the robot programming language. Maybe Diego's coding script is actually the etheric contractual language?
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Post by yinglung on May 17, 2019 11:43:51 GMT
Interesting that the language of the arbiter of contracts speaks something that looks like the robot programming language. Maybe Diego's coding script is actually the etheric contractual language? That kinda makes sense. Considering this etheric involvement here, robots seem to have souls. One thing legal language and programming language have in common is having to describe things with the utmost accuracy. Thus the soul of a robot may be described both as a program and as a legal document describing its capabilities and limitations. |
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Post by puntino on May 17, 2019 11:44:43 GMT
I'm under the impression that Arthur is "legally" bound to the court, since he was locked into maintaining the shield.
Either that or Diego was the first to cross the boundary between a robot and a being, and claimed ownership over all Gunnerkrigg robots. Now, he's being challenged on that regard.
PS: Now that I reread the page, though, it seems that the whole contract thing was just a mixup and has already been addressed, they'll probably move on to the main topic, which is Kat creating life.
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Post by ket on May 17, 2019 11:53:27 GMT
Also weird theory: Kat's contract-via-computer transferred ownership to Annie with a flaw that allowed Loup to create a second Annie (once he noticed it). When this is resolved, there will only be one Annie again.
I think the Diego stuff is more likely, but this was fun to imagine.
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Post by netherdan on May 17, 2019 12:00:28 GMT
Hmm, this is unexpected. Why would Arthur's transformation cause a breach of Annie's contract with Rey? Well we know that Kat scanned the transfer process when she passed ownership back to Annie. Perhaps the issue is that some of the data is being reused for the brain transfer progress, which constitutes a break of the etheric contract? They did say it was single-use. I think that's a bingo! Maybe Kat "accidentally" copied Reynard's body transfer functions and by trying to access them right now to transfer Arthur's personhood into the new body is a breach of contract because Reynard, and by extension his powers, are currently owned by the Antimonies. Also, "shifted" kinda support that one of the Annies has been shifted between timelines! |
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Post by darlos9d on May 17, 2019 13:11:29 GMT
"It looks like you're trying to create a fully fledged living being..." It looks like you're about to get half a cookie It's a small but whole cookie for the particular aspect I was focusing on. This is about as close to Clippy showing up as you can possibly get. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 17, 2019 13:22:27 GMT
What if the Annie/ Rey contract was breached when Annie got cloned, but there’s a grace period? Or the etheric bureaucracy is a little slow to react? It kind of sounds like Clippy/ Chao didn’t realize the two Annies were the same person. |
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Post by dramastix on May 17, 2019 13:38:01 GMT
Real talk, I do love that after such a dramatic entrance, these two ended up being Like, etheric lawyers. But let's be honest here. This has always been a story about girls getting mixed up in contract disputes. |
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Post by ohthatone on May 17, 2019 13:43:35 GMT
Wait...what was it about moving roboboyfriend's mind into his new body which caused a potential dispute with Annie's ownership of Rey? maybe nothing, it's just that wheels of bureaucracy move like molasses uphill in January and it's taken them this long to say "Heeeeey waiiitaminnit"? |
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Post by pyradonis on May 17, 2019 13:44:31 GMT
My toughts regarding this page can be summed up thusly:
"Huh?" |
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