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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 8, 2019 7:04:32 GMT
My first thought was that no mechanical part was being physically transferred but then I realized that wasn't necessarily the case.
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Post by madjack on May 8, 2019 7:09:54 GMT
The Annies hiding behind Juliette in panel 2.
The reveal might not be until next Monday or Wednesday at this rate though.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 8, 2019 9:17:33 GMT
Hmm, so they're transferring his sourcecode to a new body. How will it interact with the new structure? It's quite different from Robot who effectively "lives" in his chip...
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Post by noone3 on May 8, 2019 10:00:16 GMT
It is when everything is looking good that resonance cascades happen...
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 8, 2019 12:11:19 GMT
It is when everything is looking good that resonance cascades happen... Kat: "Uh...it's probably not a problem...probably...but I'm showing a small discrepancy in...well, no, it's well within acceptable bounds again. Sustaining sequence. "
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Post by madjack on May 8, 2019 12:17:26 GMT
It is when everything is looking good that resonance cascades happen... Resonance cascade? Pffft. Thanks for that idea Per.
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Post by ctso74 on May 8, 2019 13:29:56 GMT
That hmmming antennae is giving me serious accidental body swap vibe. At the every least slight sterilization, if you stand close for too long. I doubt any of the Court experiments are OSHA compliant. A thought just accord to me, and I don't know if anyone else has brought it up. What if it's a "success", and new Arthur seems fine, but when all the robots are released from the force field, old Arthur still has all the same memories and feelings? It would leave the Arthur's and Juliet in quite a mess, and be an interestingly juxtaposition with the Carver Twin's situation.
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Post by saardvark on May 8, 2019 13:37:44 GMT
That hmmming antennae is giving me serious accidental body swap vibe. At the every least slight sterilization, if you stand close for too long. I doubt any of the Court experiments are OSHA compliant. A thought just accord to me, and I don't know if anyone else has brought it up. What if it's a "success", and new Arthur seems fine, but when all the robots are released from the force field, old Arthur still has all the same memories and feelings? It would leave the Arthur's and Juliet in quite a mess, and be an interestingly juxtaposition with the Carver Twin's situation. Kat would have to be aware of this possibility, so I imagine she'd transfer some other spare CPU into Arthur's old body... maybe Boxbot will get a body upgrade! And be not-quite-so-terrible(?)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 8, 2019 15:13:24 GMT
The history of invention and advancement is littered with the corpses of people who couldn't weigh risks because something groundbreaking is by definition the unknown... until you go back and actually look closely at the facts, then the body count drops drastically and a good number die late in life from complications rather than direct causes. I'd categorize this bit of conventional wisdom as a modern myth used for teaching young people safety protocols in labs and other workplaces... and more generally for suppressing invention of any sort. I'm a little curious to see if this myth appears in the comic and if so what form it will take. Most common example cited: either Marie Curie or the possibly-fictional Icharus. Honorable mention: Perillos, who's alleged death is a good cautionary tale about choosing your employer wisely.
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Post by netherdan on May 8, 2019 17:36:48 GMT
My first thought was that no mechanical part was being physically transferred but then I realized that wasn't necessarily the case. Hmm, so they're transferring his sourcecode to a new body. How will it interact with the new structure? It's quite different from Robot who effectively "lives" in his chip... That hmmming antennae is giving me serious accidental body swap vibe. At the every least slight sterilization, if you stand close for too long. I doubt any of the Court experiments are OSHA compliant. A thought just accord to me, and I don't know if anyone else has brought it up. What if it's a "success", and new Arthur seems fine, but when all the robots are released from the force field, old Arthur still has all the same memories and feelings? It would leave the Arthur's and Juliet in quite a mess, and be an interestingly juxtaposition with the Carver Twin's situation. imaginaryfriend 's suggestion got me thinking that it's not just his "source code"/memory that's being transferred. It is well in the realm of possibility that the contraption that Kat installed nearby Arthur is transferring actual physical components from his body and the body growing vat is converting them from "parts" to "organs" by running them through Juliette's brain algorithm and other possible organ building algorithms. I don't know why it would need to be done that way but that would avoid the SOMA problem and explain the three teke teke sounds produced by both ends during the transfer.
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Post by phantaskippy on May 8, 2019 17:41:55 GMT
Seraphs hanging around, all the golems moved, brand new technology in a secret lab that has obviously not been compromised by Lupe's interference . . .
Time to just chill and wait for Friday. Clearly nothing to see here. . .
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Post by tustin2121 on May 8, 2019 18:57:15 GMT
I have a bad feeling about this, not helped least of which by Tom's comment. I feel like someone's going to get erased from existence soon...
But then again, last time we had a massive build up relating to some process Kat was doing, it went off without a hitch...
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Post by tustin2121 on May 8, 2019 19:09:35 GMT
The history of invention and advancement is littered with the corpses of people who couldn't weigh risks because something groundbreaking is by definition the unknown... until you go back and actually look closely at the facts, then the body count drops drastically and a good number die late in life from complications rather than direct causes. I'd categorize this bit of conventional wisdom as a modern myth used for teaching young people safety protocols in labs and other workplaces... and more generally for suppressing invention of any sort. I'm a little curious to see if this myth appears in the comic and if so what form it will take. That seems a little cynical. That could be taken to imply you're of the opinion that innovation requires a body count to be a worthwhile endeavor... As for the comic, considering the court has been known to play around with the very being of the universe (the ether), I don't think they'd dissuade someone from a bit of "unethical human testing" here and there, as long as it was on the edge of the definition and the paperwork was in order.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 8, 2019 19:43:59 GMT
The history of invention and advancement is littered with the corpses of people who couldn't weigh risks because something groundbreaking is by definition the unknown... until you go back and actually look closely at the facts, then the body count drops drastically and a good number die late in life from complications rather than direct causes. I'd categorize this bit of conventional wisdom as a modern myth used for teaching young people safety protocols in labs and other workplaces... and more generally for suppressing invention of any sort. I'm a little curious to see if this myth appears in the comic and if so what form it will take. That seems a little cynical. That could be taken to imply you're of the opinion that innovation requires a body count to be a worthwhile endeavor... As for the comic, considering the court has been known to play around with the very being of the universe (the ether), I don't think they'd dissuade someone from a bit of "unethical human testing" here and there, as long as it was on the edge of the definition and the paperwork was in order. Significant innovation will by necessity cause significant disruption and that will impact people with vested interest in the status quo one way or another. There's also a human cost in work in general. Perhaps that sounds cynical but pushback and opportunity costs are things that happen.
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Post by pyradonis on May 9, 2019 0:42:25 GMT
Just in case nobody has suggested it yet, I am calling that the sensory overload by going directly from whole-machine to whole-organic body will kill him or drive him mad.
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Post by todd on May 9, 2019 12:39:27 GMT
My guess - everything will go smoothly, but Robot will interpret the event as another element in the robot religion he's been preaching, make it the cornerstone of his next big sermon once the non-robot characters have left, and possibly move the robot religion another step into a disturbing direction.
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Post by tustin2121 on May 9, 2019 14:24:57 GMT
My guess - everything will go smoothly, but Robot will interpret the event as another element in the robot religion he's been preaching, make it the cornerstone of his next big sermon once the non-robot characters have left, and possibly move the robot religion another step into a disturbing direction. That's just a given. I don't think that even needs to be said anymore. In fact, we haven't seen what's happened to the robot religion after the timeskip yet. I wonder if it's experienced a schism yet, where those who were questioning what the use of frailty was have broken off into their own sect... ....oh, wait, all the robots are at the shield wall, and those with the hardware overrides aren't themselves, so that plotline is literally frozen in time right now... I forgot... poor Robot, lost all of his followers in one fell swoop to a raging plot point... :/
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Post by netherdan on May 9, 2019 15:24:02 GMT
In fact, we haven't seen what's happened to the robot religion after the timeskip yet. I wonder if it's experienced a schism yet, where those who were questioning what the use of frailty was have broken off into their own sect... ....oh, wait, all the robots are at the shield wall, and those with the hardware overrides aren't themselves, so that plotline is literally frozen in time right now... I forgot... poor Robot, lost all of his followers in one fell swoop to a raging plot point... :/ He can still preach to the seraphs... Make them his apostoles. He could also convince Kat to release all the shieldbots into the new bodies disregarding their opinions on the need of frailty. And speaking of the new body, will Arthur have some or even all of Anja's and/or Kat's computer related etheric powers? I seriously hope Kat had user authentication and permission management implemented on her computer
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Post by Runningflame on May 9, 2019 19:32:09 GMT
Just in case nobody has suggested it yet, I am calling that the sensory overload by going directly from whole-machine to whole-organic body will kill him or drive him mad. Hmm, yes. Perhaps that's why new humans spend a lot of their early days screaming. (On the other hand, it doesn't seem to have been a problem for bunnyboy. On the other other hand, since he'd previously been embodied as a rabbit, he was already used to sensory experiences and just had to learn what to do with different sensory experiences.)
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Post by pyradonis on May 9, 2019 19:39:11 GMT
Just in case nobody has suggested it yet, I am calling that the sensory overload by going directly from whole-machine to whole-organic body will kill him or drive him mad. Hmm, yes. Perhaps that's why new humans spend a lot of their early days screaming. (On the other hand, it doesn't seem to have been a problem for bunnyboy. On the other other hand, since he'd previously been embodied as a rabbit, he was already used to sensory experiences and just had to learn what to do with different sensory experiences.) I any case, the presentation does not tell us how long it took the former animals to acclimatize to human bodies. But yes, I also think the step from rabbit to human body is smaller than from machine to organic body.
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