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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 29, 2019 7:02:48 GMT
Meanwhile Kat and Antimony can deal with that thing. The tooth thinger. [edit] The lights setup (see panel #1) should keep unfriendly shadow men away. [/edit] |
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Post by keef on Apr 29, 2019 7:05:49 GMT
See if it still giggles
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Post by madjack on Apr 29, 2019 7:24:01 GMT
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Post by arf on Apr 29, 2019 7:24:32 GMT
The tooth is afoot. Interesting thought. |
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Post by dramastix on Apr 29, 2019 7:31:58 GMT
New hypothesis: Kat is going to use the tooth and her newfound knowledge of how etheric ownership works to triangulate the location of the bone and water. Or maybe they're going to use the sword to severe the contract of ownership between (one or both) Annie and Rey so that he's free to.... do something related to Loup? Either way, I get the impression that Juliette is not included in this part of their dealings. |
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Post by madjack on Apr 29, 2019 8:42:44 GMT
New hypothesis: Kat is going to use the tooth and her newfound knowledge of how etheric ownership works to triangulate the location of the bone and water. Or maybe they're going to use the sword to severe the contract of ownership between (one or both) Annie and Rey so that he's free to.... do something related to Loup? Either way, I get the impression that Juliette is not included in this part of their dealings. Might be they're just removing the tooth so Rey carrying it doesn't complicate whatever they're about to do. Re-jigging Rey's contract so orders require co-operation between both Annies, or giving the body to him outright sounds likely. |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 29, 2019 10:07:11 GMT
Annie could have let Rey free any time.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 29, 2019 10:19:14 GMT
Renard, cough up the tooth and nothing but the tooth.
I will let myself out now...
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Post by DonDueed on Apr 29, 2019 12:22:11 GMT
Hmm. I got very confused. I thought Rey coughed up a little slip of paper. The tooth makes a lot more sense!
So they need to cut something... hmm again.
From what's in the window, it looks like Arthur is about to get loaded into a literal cloud.
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Post by saardvark on Apr 29, 2019 12:22:44 GMT
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Post by hnau on Apr 29, 2019 12:35:22 GMT
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Post by todd on Apr 29, 2019 12:36:48 GMT
If they're going to set Rey free, they'd better keep it secret from the Court; we can assume that the higher-ups are convinced that as soon as Rey is free, he'll go on a body-hopping frenzy (and taking full advantage of the fact that everyone whom he possesses dies as soon as he leaves that person's body to wipe out most of the Court's population) - as if the current situation isn't bad enough. And as soon as they find out that Rey is free, I doubt they'd allow him the opportunity to show that he's changed.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 29, 2019 13:18:03 GMT
A comparison of past scans of The Tooth to current ones?
Questions must be chewing everyone up, and brushing up on that would help to get to the root of things. From the current page, it may not even fill like giggling.
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Post by fia on Apr 29, 2019 13:44:03 GMT
I'm always baffled by how Tom always manages to so nonchalantly re-awaken a long-dormant plot hole or plot device. We've been talking about the tooth for months with no sign or mention of it at the obvious points and now here, out of the blue, it is again! If I'm not wrong the last time we saw it was page 965 when Shadow was cut off the floor and Robot was cut in two. Have they mentioned it since that chapter, GC sleuths? |
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Post by fjodorii on Apr 29, 2019 13:51:05 GMT
Are they going to use the tooth to cut Arthur free from whatever keeps him in his static form? Cut through the robo-etherical link with the network?
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Post by philman on Apr 29, 2019 14:02:01 GMT
I'm always baffled by how Tom always manages to so nonchalantly re-awaken a long-dormant plot hole or plot device. We've been talking about the tooth for months with no sign or mention of it at the obvious points and now here, out of the blue, it is again! If I'm not wrong the last time we saw it was page 965 when Shadow was cut off the floor and Robot was cut in two. Have they mentioned it since that chapter, GC sleuths? According to the Gunnerkrigg Index you are correct, it was symbolised in the Divine chapter when Zimmy was exploring Annie's dreams, but not seen itself since the occasion you mentioned. I was sure I remember seeing it more recently, but cannot find anything more myself. Given how often it is mentioned in the forum, I'm honestly shocked that it was last seen that long ago! |
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Post by jda on Apr 29, 2019 15:25:06 GMT
The tooth is afoot. Interesting thought. If it still giggles, does it mean it has Coyote inside? and ... ain't it be considered a Gift from Coyote, and so, inherently included in Loup demands of returning? |
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Post by Eversist on Apr 29, 2019 15:43:12 GMT
Hm. I was thinking maybe they're just using Kat's matter transference to get it to Loup without having to physically go to the forest. But nothing's that simple... right?
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Post by Gotolei on Apr 29, 2019 16:37:18 GMT
I'm always baffled by how Tom always manages to so nonchalantly re-awaken a long-dormant plot hole or plot device. We've been talking about the tooth for months with no sign or mention of it at the obvious points and now here, out of the blue, it is again! If I'm not wrong the last time we saw it was page 965 when Shadow was cut off the floor and Robot was cut in two. Have they mentioned it since that chapter, GC sleuths? According to the Gunnerkrigg Index you are correct, it was symbolised in the Divine chapter when Zimmy was exploring Annie's dreams, but not seen itself since the occasion you mentioned. I was sure I remember seeing it more recently, but cannot find anything more myself. Given how often it is mentioned in the forum, I'm honestly shocked that it was last seen that long ago! Parley was shown training with a replica near the beginning of The Realm Of The Dead, but yeah I don't think the actual thing has come up since the thing with Shadow. Edit: actually looking at it now it isn't quite a close match as I thought it was. I remember there was a bunch of talk about it on the threads though |
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Post by dingo on Apr 29, 2019 16:37:29 GMT
Watching Juliette dance around before the wake feels like the excruciating first seconds of a slowmotion crash.
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Post by saardvark on Apr 29, 2019 17:12:49 GMT
The tooth is afoot. Interesting thought. If it still giggles, does it mean it has Coyote inside? and ... ain't it be considered a Gift from Coyote, and so, inherently included in Loup demands of returning? maybe? Since Ys still has some kind of existence within Loup, it is likely that Coyote does as well, and so may live on in his "gifts" as well. Probably part of the reason Loup wants them back! It's not clear Loup knows of the existence of the giggle blade - he only mentioned Annie retrieving the goose bone and the Coyote water. So in principle, the blade is included, but since Loup doesn't seem to know about it, Annie & Kat probably figure they can keep it, and perhaps put it to some good use (as we are about to see...) |
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Post by saardvark on Apr 29, 2019 17:22:02 GMT
The tooth is a foot, and the Coyote is a (goose) bone, and the stone is a (Coyote) tooth, and (evil) doll is a shrimp-thing, and the (horned) rabbit is a boy, and the boy is now a bird.... just another day in Gunnerkrigg.... (but Boxbot is still terrible) |
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Post by dramastix on Apr 29, 2019 17:24:10 GMT
I mean if I was going to put money down, I'd go with my first thought, since as pyradonis pointed out, Annie doesn't need the tooth to set Rey free. I just thought maybe using it during the process might affect how the court is able to perceive the event or some such.
And yeah, I'm assuming that since he did not specifically ask for the Tooth, there's no way they're just going to hand it back. Still waiting for Annie to use her improved etheric sensibilities to get a better sense of exactly what's going on with it, though (in the same way she could see the strings coming from Smitty).
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 29, 2019 17:46:31 GMT
It's possible that they are going to use the Tooth as a bargaining chip, either as a substitute for the other gifts they can't recover or for some other concession from "Loup" but I think it's more likely that dramastix is right and it will be used for locating the other gifts. Not sure how important the ownership part of this is or if I understand Coyote and Gunnerverse physics enough, but I think the gifts are not just magical objects containing ether that he created but branches of potential etheric flow that are still part of Coyote, or part of the system that Coyote arose from and which "Loup" now sits precariously on top of; study of the one gift may enable Kat to get bearings on the others and probably other interesting information. [edit] And if Kat can get a precise enough fix she can probably translocate it.[/edit] |
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Post by mturtle7 on Apr 29, 2019 18:26:18 GMT
Normally, I'd try and come up with some Wildspec for the possible uses of the Tooth, but right now I'm just too busy gushing over how FRIGGIN CUTE Juliet is in those 3rd and 4th panels.
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Post by atteSmythe on Apr 29, 2019 18:31:54 GMT
The tooth is afoot. Interesting thought. If it still giggles, does it mean it has Coyote inside? and ... ain't it be considered a Gift from Coyote, and so, inherently included in Loup demands of returning? Loup only asked for the goose bone, the lake water, and renard’s body-snatching. My guess would be that this is all part of Coyote’s plan somehow, and that this is the true reason Annie was forbidden from speaking about the Tooth - coyote removed his own memory of it, and needed Ysengrin not to know about it so that when Ys eventually turned on coyote, loup would be denied the knowledge |
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 29, 2019 18:38:24 GMT
Here's a thought: could they use the tooth to sever Loup's disparate parts, bringing back Coyote and Ysengrin?
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Post by Gemini Jim on Apr 29, 2019 19:49:39 GMT
*** some serious-looking stuff happening with the tooth, probably Loup-related ***
Meanwhile, I'm totally distracted by Juliette running into the hillbilly home to "get ready" for Arthur.
BTW, that first panel really shows how huge that underground space is, doesn't it? As in, jet airline hangar big?
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Post by tustin2121 on Apr 29, 2019 20:29:35 GMT
I'm quite sure the tooth will have nothing to do with Rey himself. I do very much like the idea that Kat is going to analyze it with her computer to try and track down the bone and water.
Though, what strikes me as so odd about this page, though, is that they're getting out the tooth basically right in front of a known member or two of the Shadow Men, who could at any moment come back out of the house while they're fiddling with the tooth...
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Post by netherdan on Apr 29, 2019 20:57:44 GMT
Here's a thought: could they use the tooth to sever Loup's disparate parts, bringing back Coyote and Ysengrin? Only by a very skilled fighter who can teleport with unerring accuracy with the aid of someone who can distort probability. But those are probably traumatized by hurting their friends with the tooth and by near death of each other. |
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